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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:50:48 No.32839252 View View Reply Original Report

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Remember when Dragon being designed as an intentionally powerful type worked because it was a very exclusive type with poor move distribution?
Remember how Gen III ruined the delicate balance, and introduced several dragons for no fucking reason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:53:22 No.32839267 Report

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>>32839252
Remember when dragonite was the only dragon type and it was shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:53:25 No.32839268 Report

Quoted By: >>32839301

>>32839252
but it wasn't all that good of a type.

All it did was give Dragonite a 4x weakness without a worthwhile STAB to show for it.

Even now Dragon types are more good for their members, rather then the actual type itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:55:05 No.32839279 Report

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>>32839252
I'm glad they did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:55:10 No.32839280 Report

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This thread makes no sense

Who's your favorite Dragon type? I love Hydreigon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:56:51 No.32839294 Report

Quoted By: >>32841024

>>32839252

Dragon was initially designed as the "Final Boss" type, that's why it resists Grass, Fire, Water, and Electric, the four starter types of Gen 1.

Obviously though, that part of the type's design became outdated, so they logically adjusted the type to be more balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:57:36 No.32839301 Report

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>>32839268
Gen II Dragonite was pretty good. Gen I was kind of meh, but that's in part due to how prevalent blizzard was, thanks to the move being so op.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:58:26 No.32839305 Report

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>>32839280
Can't decide between Kommo-o, Hydreigon, Giratina-O, or Zygundam, honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 05:31:18 No.32840838 Report

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>>32839301
Wrap t wave agility dragonite is crazy to stop tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 05:35:55 No.32840876 Report

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dragon wasn't even good in gen 3, the only actual worthwhile one was salamence (and flygon sort of) and it had to use hidden power flying as its best attack

if you want to point fingers look at gen 4 where dragons got outrage as physical STAB while also getting draco meteor for special

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 05:37:54 No.32840891 Report

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I think it was designed to be a final boss, that's why there was only Dragonite's line at the time.

>>32839252
>Remember how Gen III ruined the delicate balance
Come on. Gen III only introduced like 3 dragons. Two of them are OK at best and one of them is designed to be a final boss again (with Metagross). The rest are legendaries.

The balance was ruined with Gen V at the point they needed to nerf the type in Gen VI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 05:40:15 No.32840903 Report

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Dragon wasn't even good until Gen 4 gave them physical Outrage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 06:01:16 No.32841024 Report

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>>32839294
Is it strange how it's always resisted electric, even before pikachu became the mascot and the starter of yellow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 06:06:34 No.32841059 Report

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>>32839252
Dragon became broken with the advent of 120 BP physical outrage. Only then because of chomp and mence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 06:11:14 No.32841087 Report

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>>32839252
Dragons weren't that great as a type. They were only good because of high BST and Dragon countering Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 06:15:41 No.32841109 Report

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>>32839252
>Remember how Gen III ruined the delicate balance
You mean gen 2? By introducing bullshit new types? Gen 3 adding good dragons instead of dumb bullshit like barney and tubedra is hardly what ruined the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 08:36:53 No.32841681 Report

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>>32839267
dragonite has actually been consistenly pretty good thoughout all the generations, in gen 1 you could use wrap to really fuck shit up with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 08:38:53 No.32841685 Report

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>>32839252
More like
>remember how gen IV introduced garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:12:04 No.32841977 Report

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>>32841024
It was to negate flying's electric weakness. I think the idea was for Dragonite to only have only two real weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:14:50 No.32841983 Report

Quoted By: >>32841992 >>32844762

>>32839252
remember when the devs realised that for the franchise to continue they'd have to keep on adding pokemon of every type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:16:13 No.32841986 Report

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>>32839280
coconut tree is my favourite

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:18:19 No.32841992 Report

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>>32841983
Except for ice, apparently.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:24:37 No.32842009 Report

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>>32841681
Dragonite's been always good, but its typing used to be weak. It resisted Water which was nice, but it was weak to Ice which was fucking everywhere in Gen 1. On top of all that, there virtually were no Dragon moves to take advantage of either. Contrary to OP's stupid fucking point, Dragon as a type was weak in the first few gens, and started to get strong specifically in Gen 3.

>>32839280
Good taste. I'm a fucking filthy Dragonfag, so its Hydreigon/Zard X, with Salamence close behind. Pretty much love all Dragons though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:35:50 No.32842043 Report

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>>32839280

Mega-Rayquaza, Mega or Regular Salamence, and Dragonite

Honestly there are so many to choose though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 10:42:49 No.32842067 Report

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>>32839267
Remember when dragon rage was the strongest dragon type move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 12:29:04 No.32842460 Report

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>>32839280
ma MAYN hydreigon is bae

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 19:07:43 No.32844762 Report

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>>32841983
but then in gen 7 they realized they can just keep adding less and less pokemon until in gen 9 they stop adding pokemon of each type and just add like 12 per game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 19:47:03 No.32845043 Report

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>>32841109
Steel was ridiculous but Dark was a needed fuck you to Psychics who had it way too good before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 19:54:42 No.32845082 Report

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>>32841024
Are you retarded? The games and anime were always designed around each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 19:57:02 No.32845095 Report

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>>32839252
I miss the game being able to do this kind of design.

Like onix being bad on purpose. Ah well. There are other RPGs if you want a more traditional game.

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