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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:04:27 No.32846398 View View Reply Original Report

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If you could (or had to) bring back one gen 1 mechanic, what would it be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:06:19 No.32846413 Report

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Counter behind substitute

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:08:28 No.32846429 Report

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>>32846398
Speed based critical hits.

Yea, I want to fuck the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:13:50 No.32846465 Report

Quoted By: >>32846524

>>32846398
Moves like fire spin and wrap stopped you from fighting, and when they continue their attack, they dealt some good damage. I have a Vulpix on Red and I overleveled it just by battling and using Fire Spin against other NPC. I mean, that's the way it should really work. Your Pokemon is technically trapped and can't move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:14:51 No.32846476 Report

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>>32846398
Hyper Beam not having to charge if you KO an opponent with it
It would be fucking crazy

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:15:23 No.32846481 Report

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>>32846398
The special stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:16:31 No.32846496 Report

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Combined Special stats.

I don't know who's bright idea it was to split them but it just made everything more complicated for no reason.

But this is GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:16:55 No.32846502 Report

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90 Accuracy Blizzard. I don't battle competitively but that sounds like it could cause a lot of rage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:17:56 No.32846512 Report

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>>32846476
This. Extend the effect to Giga Impact, Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, Hydro Cannon, and Prismatic Laser too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:19:29 No.32846519 Report

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>>32846502
It wouldn't.

Pretty much anything under 95% accuracy is outclassed by a more reliable move or even a status move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:19:59 No.32846524 Report

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>>32846465
>>32846476
>>32846496
>>32846502
These were all symptoms of a game never intended to be multi-player, link battles were a last minute addition which is why they balanced that shit in future games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:20:13 No.32846525 Report

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>>32846398
Definitely Hyper Beam (and its clones) with no recharge if you kill the opponent. Could make for lots of interesting mindgames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:21:16 No.32846532 Report

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>>32846519
How's the ELO hell?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:21:27 No.32846534 Report

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>>32846481
>>32846496
Only if Blissey's is her Special Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:21:57 No.32846538 Report

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>>32846496
>I don't know who's bright idea it was to split them but it just made everything more complicated for no reason.
you can't possibly think this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:25:42 No.32846555 Report

Quoted By: >>32847750

Overworld effects of cut

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:28:51 No.32846586 Report

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>>32846519
Ah, that makes sense. I guess I'd bring back the multi-hit moves thing then. That or the Wrap/Fire spin thing but that might cause more rage in-game than in competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:32:54 No.32846610 Report

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>>32846538
Ask yourself, "What's the point of having two defense stats?". If they bring back the combined Special I would prefer it to just function as the Special Attack. HP could function as the "Special Defense" so everything would just balance out.

It wasn't broken so Gamefreak shouldn't have "fixed" it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:33:00 No.32846611 Report

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>Skill link Cloyster @scope lens with Gen 1 multi-hit crit mechanics

Yaaaaassss

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:47:49 No.32846746 Report

Quoted By: >>32848091 >>32851056 >>32855105

Toxic becoming poison on switch out. Fuck stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 23:50:23 No.32846773 Report

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>>32846610
anon I bet you play for the story

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 00:00:02 No.32846854 Report

Quoted By: >>32851212

>>32846429

This. Speed is so pointless anyway, literally the most pointless stat since you go first 99% of the time unless you're using graveler or something.Might as well just repurpose such a pointless stat into a psuedo crit rate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 00:58:58 No.32847264 Report

Quoted By: >>32847976

Having no abilities. Imagine the rage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 01:19:14 No.32847395 Report

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multi-hit crits for all my Skill Link buddies

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 01:30:19 No.32847468 Report

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>>32846476
Oh God, yes please.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:08:11 No.32847750 Report

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>>32846555
Yes please. I want to mow the lawn again

>>32846610
>HP could function as the "Special Defense"
Have you got any idea what you're talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:20:50 No.32847839 Report

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>>32846610
>HP could function as the "Special Defense" so everything would just balance out.
You were right until here. Special should be only special attack. Special defense should apply to normal defense as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:24:48 No.32847871 Report

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>>32846512
Prismatic Laser isn't a Hyper Beam clone, Roar of Time is and Rock Wrecker.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:31:31 No.32847926 Report

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>>32846512
>Blast Burn
MFW this happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:39:06 No.32847976 Report

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>>32847264
>clefable fucking dies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:42:05 No.32847993 Report

Quoted By: >>32848030

>>32847871
Prismatic Laser is a hyper beam clone.
>Prismatic Laser inflicts damage and then forces the user to recharge during the next turn. Unless this attack misses, the user will always have to recharge the next turn.
>and then forces the user to recharge during the next turn

Just because it has 100% accuracy and is slightly stronger doesn't mean its not a hyper beam clone.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:43:35 No.32848001 Report

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>>32846610
>It wasn't broken so Gamefreak shouldn't have "fixed" it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:48:00 No.32848030 Report

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>>32847993
>Just because it has 100% accuracy and is slightly stronger doesn't mean its not a hyper beam clone.
That's exactly what makes Prismatic Laser to not be a Hyper Beam Clone, anon.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:55:53 No.32848091 Report

Quoted By: >>32855105

>>32846746
>this actually happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 02:58:12 No.32848119 Report

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>>32846398

Frozen Status being fucking Frozen and you had to use a fire move to melt it. Come on now, it's bad enough that Ice Types are useless and it's even worse that Freezing means shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 04:40:12 No.32848822 Report

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>>32846610
"I never used a psychic type in gen 1" the post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 04:42:48 No.32848844 Report

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>>32846519
t. sub 1000

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 04:44:25 No.32848855 Report

Quoted By: >>32850193

>>32846519
>Pretty much anything under 95% accuracy is outclassed by a more reliable move or even a status move.

Yeah, Focus Blast is one of the worst moves in the game, never seen a single opponent use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 04:46:07 No.32848876 Report

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>>32846398
No ability. Fuck sableye and regenerator. Sorry if my nigga azurmaril goes NU or PU

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 04:55:50 No.32848964 Report

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>>32848822
>Not using a safari normal type
>Not using Rhydon
>Not using Jolteon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 04:59:13 No.32849001 Report

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>>32846398
Special is 1 stat again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 05:29:45 No.32849209 Report

Quoted By: >>32850022 >>32851229

>>32846398
Every attack having 1/256 chance of missing.

If I get to choose 2, I want Agility and Swords Dance to negate the speed/power loss in paralysis/burn. Both this and the low chance of any move missing need to be re-implemented.

Also, why is the word "fuck" censored on this? Are there really such wimpy faggots on /vp/ that they can't handle the fuck word?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 08:32:39 No.32850022 Report

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>>32849209
The original image is decade-old SA text copypasta and SA has/had wordfilters if you're not logged in, such as 'ass' being 'rear end' and so on.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 09:13:58 No.32850167 Report

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The ability to cut tall grass. I never used that shit, but I remember being surprised when I first found out about it in Silver and fuck I miss it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 09:16:39 No.32850176 Report

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>>32846398
Use counter to OHKO moves

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 09:21:10 No.32850188 Report

Quoted By: >>32851212

>>32846429
>Speed based critical hits.
This so much. It'd make the stat a lot more interesting and Paralysis more significant, not to mention underused moves like Agility relevant again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 09:22:27 No.32850193 Report

Quoted By: >>32850834

>>32848855
>pretty much means everything
name a reliable alternative to focus blast for the mons that use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 12:07:16 No.32850816 Report

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multi-hit moves using the same damage number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 12:13:52 No.32850834 Report

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>>32850193
Aura sphere if it was a TM or a tutor move would be nice for those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 12:17:43 No.32850851 Report

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>>32846519
85 acc fire blast is still the preferred choice over flamethrower.

90 acc blizzard would be used by literally almost everything that gets it. Ice coverage at 110 BP is that good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 12:29:00 No.32850898 Report

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The Fun.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 13:08:05 No.32851056 Report

Quoted By: >>32852271 >>32855105

>>32846746
You mean Toxic and Leech Seed damage combining?

>nice Chansey faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 13:45:08 No.32851212 Report

Quoted By: >>32854878

>>32846429
>>32846854
>>32850188
t. Never played gen 1

Speed is already the most important stat. You'd just be fucking over slow mons even more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 13:48:10 No.32851229 Report

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>>32849209
>every attack but sure hits
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 16:09:53 No.32852198 Report

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>>32846398
Toxic and Leech Seed stacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 16:16:20 No.32852271 Report

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>>32851056
Make Meganium Great Again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 20:36:47 No.32854419 Report

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>>32846502
Only gets used on Hail teams anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 21:11:20 No.32854709 Report

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Hyper beam no recharging if you get a K.O

Make the move a high risk high reward move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 21:34:13 No.32854878 Report

Quoted By: >>32855046

>>32851212
That's why it would really fuck all the thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 21:52:50 No.32854991 Report

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>>32846398
All of them. Gen 1 meta is best meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 21:55:05 No.32855005 Report

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>>32846398
Toxic becoming normal poison after switch easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 21:59:56 No.32855046 Report

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>>32854878
Exactly. Think how Greninja would be with the mechanic that makes multi-hit moves deal the same number for damage added to the mechanic that correlates speed with criticals. Water Shuriken would be broken as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 22:07:39 No.32855105 Report

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>>32846746
>>32848091
>>32851056
Even better if they limited the move so not every pokémon can learn it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 22:10:00 No.32855121 Report

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>>32846398
Poison being weak to bug and as a result allowing Twinneedle and other Bug moves to be able to poison pokemon usually immune to the status effect.

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