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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 05:49:05 No.32849328 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32849371 >>32849387 >>32849644 >>32849676 >>32849813 >>32850163 >>32853419 >>32854106 >>32854117 >>32855021

>Gen 6 was awful and rushed
>Gen 7 is awful and rushed
>yfw this is their new business model and Gen 8 and beyond will be awful and rushed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 05:53:40 No.32849359 Report

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Now you're cooking with gas.

>games get worse on shift to more powerful hardware
>thinking they won't get even worse with even more powerful hardware
>when this is exactly happened with many Japanese developers with the jump to PS2/GC/Xbox and later PS3/360

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 05:56:37 No.32849371 Report

Quoted By: >>32849385

>>32849328

>Gen 6 started development right before Gen 5 was released
>Gen 7 started development right before Gen 6 was released

Neither was "rushed"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 05:57:30 No.32849375 Report

Quoted By: >>32853419

>yfw franchises get steadily worse as they try to simultaneously cater and cling to the series' outdated roots while pushing it in new ways that alienate its original audience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 05:58:38 No.32849385 Report

Quoted By: >>32849408

>>32849371
so omhori directed oras and Sun and moon at same time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 05:59:38 No.32849387 Report

Quoted By: >>32849408 >>32849411 >>32853311 >>32853358

>>32849328

It's been proven time and time again that rushing games and shitting out a new entry every one or two years doesn't work as a business model because it makes the audience fatigued; look what happened to Guitar Hero and Call of Duty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 06:02:26 No.32849408 Report

Quoted By: >>32850260

>>32849385
Yes.

>>32849387
Pokemon's been doing that since day one though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 06:03:06 No.32849411 Report

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>>32849387
call of duty inviente warfare did bad sales. because trailer sucked ass so many dislikes.

Pokemon will never have that happen.

usm will obviously have sales decrease from Sun and moon though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 06:48:07 No.32849644 Report

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>>32849328

but diamond and pearl were fucked up even if they were working at them 3 or more years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 06:57:21 No.32849676 Report

Quoted By: >>32850484

>>32849328
Gen 7 was better than shitfest of Gen 6,

there's a good chance that Gen 8 and so will be better than both gen 6 and 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 07:32:39 No.32849813 Report

Quoted By: >>32853311

>>32849328
Postgame.

Just give us some semblance of postgame that isn't just
>lol win 100 battles in a row in the battle shed!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 07:36:28 No.32849830 Report

Quoted By: >>32850178 >>32850200 >>32850659

All Gen 7 needed were a few more Alolan forms, more of a post-game, better Dex variety, and more of a unique Dex per island.

The story and characters were great for Pokemon standards. The gameplay was great. Z-Moves were a cool addition. The visuals genuinely looked good unlike Gen 6.

Sun/Moon wasn't perfect but it was miles from shit. USM have every reason to be outstanding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 07:38:17 No.32849837 Report

Quoted By: >>32849846

>le rushed buzzword
Fuck off retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 07:41:00 No.32849846 Report

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>>32849837
Yeah, the rushed meme is terrible. Anyone who knows what they're talking about know GF is just getting worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 09:11:24 No.32850163 Report

Quoted By: >>32850164

>>32849328
>Gen 8 is awful and rushed
>The gen 4 remakes are going to be awful and rushed
please no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 09:12:23 No.32850164 Report

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>>32850163
They won't be rushed. But they will be awful, and people will call them rushed because of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 09:17:12 No.32850178 Report

Quoted By: >>32850200

>>32849830
>USM have every reason to be outstanding

So did ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 09:25:06 No.32850200 Report

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>>32849830
>>32850178
USUM at least can reuse all of SM's assets instead of just a lot of them, so it has a slightly better chance of being good. Still not a sure thing after ORAS.

Also personally my biggest issue with SM is the region itself. The layout just isn't fun to explore at all, if you ask me. USUM won't be able to fix that, even if they add a new island or two it won't fix the other four and it can't be a favorite of mine from that alone, but I hope the game will at least improve everything else I took issue with or felt was lacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 09:38:55 No.32850260 Report

Quoted By: >>32853367

>>32849408
>Yes.
How is that not rushed? Instead of 1 director giving a game their full attention they are balancing multiple games at once? So what if it takes them a while to produce it, it's b/c they aren't giving it the proper attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 10:35:04 No.32850484 Report

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>>32849676
>Gen 7 was better than shitfest of Gen 6
In precisely zero of the ways that actually matter, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 11:19:33 No.32850659 Report

Quoted By: >>32850675 >>32854097

>>32849830
>USM have every reason to be outstanding.
Sure, if you ignore the fact that they keep refusing to bring back the mechanics from the past people loved meaning they won't likely be here either.

They'll probably be good, yes, but only the permanent return of Contests, Musicals, Frontier, PWT, difficulty settings, Bicycle (or at least a feature where you can reachand stay at max movement speed without holding B), accurate D-Pad controls (or at least the option to set your controls to your liking), Triple Battles, and Rotation Battles, more evolutions to old Pokémon, more Mega Evolutions (but not to ones without at least 2 stages of normal evolution) would still just be the start of making them "outstanding".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 11:22:34 No.32850675 Report

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>>32850659
Oh, and can't forget toning down the handholding ideally somewhere near the level of BotW. Tutorials shouldn't be part of the story, they should be optional.

Especially when you know damn well some of the people playing have done so for decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 18:14:06 No.32853311 Report

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>>32849387
>>32849813

This

The lack of substantial post-game (that I know of) since Gen IV had already worn me out. Once SM info was being released, I went along with the hype. The new alolan forms and unique moves/abilities seemed so cool, but they ended up having nothing to back them up. They even managed to make it worse than Gen VI's post-game because they had to get rid of triple and rotation battles.

Unlike previous generations, I can't even go back and replay SM if I wanted to, since (it at least seems like) the initial hand-holding and story elements are much more drawn out. Combine that with the lack of a post-game and the asinine online matchmaking and there's nothing fun to do after beating the game just once.

I put down ORAS with the usual idea of "let's wait until the new stuff in the next gen and it will be fun again," but Sun and Moon completely broke my interest in these games. The only reason I even go to this board anymore is because I seriously have nothing better to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 18:23:09 No.32853358 Report

Quoted By: >>32853372 >>32853398

>>32849387
Then why is it that only fags here complain about Gen 6/7 and not any other Gen when they do the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 18:24:42 No.32853367 Report

Quoted By: >>32855274

>>32850260
Correct me if I am wrong but is this not a common thing in game development?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 18:25:01 No.32853372 Report

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>>32853358
The other gens weren't rushed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 18:28:23 No.32853398 Report

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>>32853358
>I'm not wrong, everyone else is wrong!

>It makes complete sense that a large group of different people are all wrong instead of me because I am le epic intellectual gentleman!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 18:30:17 No.32853419 Report

Quoted By: >>32853478

>>32849375
>>32849328
When a franchise stops innovating and starts harkening back to its glory days, you know its dead.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 18:37:41 No.32853478 Report

Quoted By: >>32853573

>>32853419
So it's been dead since 2004? lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 18:42:29 No.32853521 Report

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When I think of a game that's rushed as hell, I immediately think of Spyro Enter the Dragonfly, nothing in that game works. Honestly I feel like the 3DS Pokemon games suffer from hardware limitations more than anything but hey that's just my opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 18:48:00 No.32853573 Report

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>>32853478
It's a remake, of course it would recall Gen 1. At least that serves its purpose as remakes. Unlike the constant genwunner shilling and nostalgia pandering in XY and SM. At this point the franchise is going the way of Sonic, and the fact that SM only drew in an audience with the crutch of Pokemon Go shows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 19:57:54 No.32854097 Report

Quoted By:

>>32850659
>but only the permanent return of
never ever, too much work for GF and "where the inovation in all?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 19:59:10 No.32854106 Report

Quoted By:

>>32849328
It's true, but /vp/ will gobble up Gen 8's hype regardless

Just like how ORAS were absolute garbage but people will get hyped for D/P anyway

Just like how /vp/ hyped S/M and pretended it was a great game for a little while even though X/Y were trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 20:00:28 No.32854117 Report

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>>32849328
It's true, but /vp/ will gobble up Gen 8's hype regardless

Just like how ORAS were absolute garbage but people will get hyped for D/P remakes anyway

Just like how /vp/ hyped S/M and pretended it was a great game for a little while even though X/Y were trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 21:56:17 No.32855021 Report

Quoted By: >>32855339

>>32849328
>Gen 6 was ok
>Gen 7 was great
Why does /vp/ have such shit taste?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 22:29:39 No.32855274 Report

Quoted By:

>>32853367
Yes it is

Case in point Square Enix had Tetsuya Nomura working on like 4 AAA titles at the same time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 22:36:42 No.32855339 Report

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>>32855021
maybe you just have shit taste

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