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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 19:10:58 No.32869708 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32869748 >>32869783 >>32869839 >>32870226 >>32870246 >>32870303 >>32870312 >>32870425 >>32870428 >>32872670 >>32872798

Ambipom (M) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Technician
Happiness: 256
EVs: 248 Atk / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Last Resort

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 19:13:30 No.32869728 Report

Quoted By: >>32872038

I hate how many retarded verlisfags are there on this board

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 19:15:29 No.32869748 Report

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>>32869708
Yeah sure, that would be a great set if Steel and Ghost types didn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 19:19:38 No.32869783 Report

Quoted By: >>32869810

>>32869708
And just like Typlosion Ambipom continues to be a mememon used by retards wich prevent him from dropping to a tier where it would actually be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 19:21:31 No.32869797 Report

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>Meme Resort
>Assvest on frail attacker with no resistances nor recovery
I'd win way more fights by sticking to the standard set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 19:23:03 No.32869810 Report

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>>32869783
Typhlosion was banned from NU last gen, so karenfags that wanted to use it had to do so in RU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 19:26:09 No.32869839 Report

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>>32869708
just use fake out, king's rock fling and thief to meme the opponent before it dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 20:29:28 No.32870226 Report

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>>32869708
If you really need to go dull retard at least go LO or Sashed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 20:33:05 No.32870246 Report

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>>32869708
I remember i used that in the battle mansion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 20:46:20 No.32870303 Report

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>>32869708
>opponent sent out any ghost type!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 20:48:13 No.32870312 Report

Quoted By: >>32870425

>>32869708
I think your forgot the last two moves, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 21:07:51 No.32870425 Report

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>>32869708
>Assault vest
Why not life orb? do you have any idea how much power you're throwing away just for a boost to its shitty special bulk?

Also, ghosts.

>>32870312
OP's memeset works on the idea that ambipom fakes you out turn 1 then proceeds to spam a 140 STAB move for as long as it can. If you had to use 3 moves instead of 1 before last resort, ambipom simply wouldn't survive long enough to do its thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 21:08:45 No.32870428 Report

Quoted By: >>32872019

>>32869708
>Ambipom (M)
it's okay everyone, OP's at least smart enough not to use a weaker female Ambipom

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 00:21:02 No.32871718 Report

Quoted By: >>32871947 >>32872068

You are like a little baby, watch this!

Ambipom (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Double Hit
- Beat Up
- Snatch

>people see I'm leading with Ambipom, probably using a retarded set like OP's
>they sent out a ghost type
>defeat by 6 (or less) technician-boosted super effective hits
>Snatch any boosts from Mimikyu or Aegislash thinking I'll swap
This is a great lead, I use Snatch instead of Taunt because I face shit that sets up a lot but you can change it. Beat up also hits rocks and steel for neutral damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 00:52:31 No.32871947 Report

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>>32871718
I remember you. You posted the replay snatching Swords Dance from Gliscor. It's cool but a bit risky for my taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 00:55:52 No.32871969 Report

Quoted By: >>32872068

This is the Ambipom set that I usually use.

Ambipom @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: Atk/Spd
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- U-Turn
- Return
- Thief

Lead with Fake-Out, and if it's a Pokemon that can't be knocked out with the follow-up Return, use U-turn to switch to A pokemon like Ferrothorn. Either that or switch to slow volt switcher like Probopass and set up another Fake-out round.

I like using Ambipom, but if you want to use it as well as you can, you basically have to build your team around it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:02:08 No.32872003 Report

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Guess I'll contribute...

Ambipom @ Normal Gem
Ability: Technician
Jolly Nature
EVs: Atk/Spd
- Fake Out
- U-turn
- Double Hit
- Acrobatics

This a set I made all the way back in X/Y. Basically if you want somebody else to have life orb you can use a normal gem, Z-move lite. If you yourself get flinched or can't connect with fake out turn one...normal gem boosted double hit does huge damage to pokemon uninvested in defense and that don't resist normal type. Acrobatics give more coverage/damage after using your gem. U-turn should be obvious.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:05:08 No.32872019 Report

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>>32870428

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:08:12 No.32872038 Report

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>>32869728
Same

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:08:33 No.32872039 Report

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My Qwilfish I use on rain teams (fucking no one sees it coming, they always think it's for hazards or some shit) also sometimes I put the poison z-crystal on it.

Qwilfish @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Waterfall
- Poison Jab
- Explosion

Dusclops designed to be an Entei counter in UU. All of Entei's moves have low PP (Sacre Fire, Extreme Speed) or hurt Entei with nasty rtecoil (Flare blitz) or are totally irrelevant/filler (Bulldoze) This Dusclops counters Entei, especially choice Band, perfectly.

Dusclops @ Eviolite
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Spite
- Night Shade

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:15:07 No.32872068 Report

Quoted By: >>32872091

>>32871718
>>32871969
What's the difference between using Double Hit or Return besides one can break sub/sash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:18:44 No.32872091 Report

Quoted By: >>32872101

>>32872068
Somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe technician boosts double hit and not return. There still both STAB so it's just a matter of preference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:19:22 No.32872096 Report

Quoted By: >>32872849

>>32872039
252+ Atk Choice Band Entei Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Dusclops: 118-141 (41.5 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

How is that an Entei counter if it gets BTFO before it can KO back, or just dies most of the time if sneaky pebbles is up? If you switch it into any other choice band move it'll be fine, but unless I'm missing something that's not a counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:20:19 No.32872101 Report

Quoted By: >>32872112 >>32872121

>>32872091
I remember hearing that max happiness STAB return still does more than Technician boosted STAB Double Hit, but I've never actually done the math before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:22:23 No.32872112 Report

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>>32872101
Yeah it's a matter of preference really, high damage or moderate 2 hits of damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:23:46 No.32872121 Report

Quoted By: >>32872168 >>32874126

>>32872101
35 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 2 = 157.5
102 * 1.5 = 153

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:27:36 No.32872143 Report

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Well, here's a set I've actually found quite useful. Yeah its a bit memeish, but it works great as my teams anchor:

Braviary w/leftovers
252 HP/252 atk/4 defense

Crush claw/return
Brave bird
Roost
Bulk up

Its a new set I've been experimenting with and it works surprisingly well as my teams secondary tank. What do you think, /vp/?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 01:31:36 No.32872168 Report

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>>32872121

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 02:56:05 No.32872670 Report

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>>32869708
Gallade (M)@ galladite
Evs:252 attack,252 speed, 4hp jolly
Bulk up/swords dance
Psycho cut
Drain punch(bulk up)/ close combat ( swords dance)
Knock off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 03:18:26 No.32872798 Report

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>>32869708
Change assault vest and add the move substitute

Bam 2x better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 03:24:55 No.32872849 Report

Quoted By: >>32874169

>>32872096
Why can he not rest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 06:46:55 No.32874126 Report

Quoted By: >>32874165

>>32872121
Of course, Double hit has an accuracy of 90%, while Return is 100%. I'd rather trade a tiny increase in base damage for reliable hits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 06:53:24 No.32874165 Report

Quoted By: >>32874195

>>32874126
But Double Hit breaks through Sturdy/Sub/Focus Sash as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 06:54:15 No.32874169 Report

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>>32872849
counters are things that can switch in and take hits still. dusclops would die after rocks and two sacred fires if it switched in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 06:59:22 No.32874195 Report

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>>32874165
Ambipom already deals with Focus sash/Sturdy with Fake-Out. The only thing it has over Return is Sub breaking.

Not really worth the trade in my book.

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