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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 10:20:38 No.32891123 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32891148 >>32891672 >>32891848 >>32892073 >>32893872 >>32897395 >>32899814 >>32900106

>42% usage and rising
Why is she so perfect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 10:25:08 No.32891148 Report

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>>32891123
More like why is smogon so shit? Weren't they made to make more Pokemon and strategies viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 10:29:09 No.32891165 Report

Quoted By: >>32891174 >>32891384 >>32891581 >>32891825 >>32891859 >>32897395

What exactly makes her so good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 10:30:44 No.32891174 Report

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>>32891165
Unmatched versatility for a pokemon which is generally strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 11:19:29 No.32891384 Report

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>>32891165
It's a legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 12:18:36 No.32891553 Report

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>>32891384
>tfw Regice is a better special wall than Chansey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 12:24:09 No.32891568 Report

Quoted By: >>32891617 >>32891716 >>32891850

>Shiftry used Leaf Blade!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 12:24:45 No.32891571 Report

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>>32891553
Regice is a better special wall than 80% of Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 12:28:23 No.32891581 Report

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>>32891165
Good typing, tons of moves, different sets, great stats. Very versatile. Good enough to be banned but not that great at any one thing, so the meta is based around it essentially.
>>32891571
>ice type
>walling anything

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 12:35:21 No.32891617 Report

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>>32891568
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Shiftry Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Landorus: 126-149 (39.4 - 46.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 12:51:24 No.32891672 Report

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>>32891123
He is perfect because he can fill so many roles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 12:53:48 No.32891682 Report

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>>32891672
>mfw read that as "holes"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 13:01:09 No.32891716 Report

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>>32891568
>Landorus used U-Turn!
>Shiftry fucking died!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 13:07:33 No.32891735 Report

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>32891716
It was left at one HP! No (You) for you sir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 13:35:25 No.32891825 Report

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>>32891165

Try to think of another Pokemon that has all of the following characteristics
>neutral to stealth rocks
>access to stealth rocks as a move
>immune to volt switch
>immune to EQ/grounded moves
>access to SD/dual dance sweeping sets
>access to uturn
>access to knock off
>innately physically bulky AND has immediate access to Intimidate to shut down most physical attackers that haven't set up
>gets EdgeQuake as well as fly for perfect Z-move coverage, 2/3 of which are STAB

No other Pokemon in the entire series does more competitively desirable things. We're getting close to GSC Snorlax at this point.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 13:42:12 No.32891848 Report

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>>32891123
>She

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 13:42:31 No.32891850 Report

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>>32891568
V-Verlisify?!?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 13:44:29 No.32891859 Report

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>>32891165
She's the new Aegislash. If your team doesn't have it, it's bad. If a Pokemon gets walled by it, it's bad. Even Garchomp is falling out of grace solely because of Landorus-T.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 13:44:29 No.32891860 Report

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Long live the king.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 13:56:28 No.32891895 Report

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>>32891859
>new Aegislash
>came along the gen before it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 14:01:12 No.32891907 Report

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What a boring ass design. The most ambiguous non-descript quadruped ever. Anything interesting about it is just carried over from Incarnate Forme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 14:11:56 No.32891942 Report

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>>32891825
We should all have a team of six genies.
That would most certainly fix the meta.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 14:14:10 No.32891953 Report

Quoted By: >>32891980

*switches in on you*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 14:22:25 No.32891980 Report

Quoted By: >>32892100

>>32891953
>stone edge

Also, stop using female pronouns, Lando is the King. KING!

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Shisu Thu 29 Jun 2017 14:48:35 No.32892073 Report

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>>32891123
>She

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 14:56:52 No.32892100 Report

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>>32891980
Edge is neutral on a Ground/Ice mon. STAB Eq would do more. Why are you on a pokemon board if you dont know at least that much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 17:40:29 No.32893011 Report

Quoted By: >>32893153 >>32893769

>>32891825
Funny thing, most of those fit Gliscor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 18:00:09 No.32893153 Report

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>>32893011
Except gliscor is shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 18:10:49 No.32893230 Report

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>>32893153
how fucking dare you, it was OU for 3 gens straight and it's the best thing to come out of gen 4 if not the entire franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 19:38:53 No.32893769 Report

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>>32893011

That's true, but he also forgot to mention
>145 base attack stat
which puts gliscor out of the running, if not having intimidate wasn't enough.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 19:46:10 No.32893816 Report

Quoted By: >>32893826

>>32893153
Fucking L*ndofags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 19:47:48 No.32893826 Report

Quoted By: >>32897467 >>32898735

>>32893816
Kill yourself stallbat you're worse than Mr. 42%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 19:54:38 No.32893872 Report

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>>32891123
God I fucking hate this Pokémon. I've been trying to get it banned from OU for 3 years and still no luck. They won't even suspect test it those pieces of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 02:50:45 No.32896581 Report

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>>32891859

I feel like the only thing Chomp is better at than Lando is the Z-crystal set just because of its speed tier.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 03:00:52 No.32896636 Report

Quoted By: >>32896846

>U-Turn
>Volt Switch
>U-Turn
>Volt Switch
>U-Turn
>Volt Switch

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Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 03:32:49 No.32896846 Report

Quoted By: >>32896868

>>32896636
>acquire single iota of prediction skill
>hp ice on the lando switch in
>win the game

gee that was tough

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 03:35:10 No.32896868 Report

Quoted By: >>32899346

>>32896846
>haha just predict bro xD

wow maybe this will work if you're playing against someone who's braindead and isn't also predicting you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 04:50:50 No.32897395 Report

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>>32891123

>she

>>32891165

>her

>>32892073

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 05:02:25 No.32897462 Report

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Role Compression and Myriad of viable sets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 05:04:02 No.32897467 Report

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>>32893826
>he thinks gliscor is a stallmon
look at this sub 1200 shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:30:02 No.32898735 Report

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>>32893826
Bulk \= stall. You probably think leftovers drain punch Conkelderr is a stall mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 14:15:38 No.32899319 Report

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>>32891895
Z-Fly/Z-Earthquake didn't exist in Gen V, you dunce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 14:16:52 No.32899330 Report

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>>32893230
>best thing to come out of Gen IV
>not Porygon-Z
u wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 14:19:17 No.32899346 Report

Quoted By: >>32899386

>>32896868

Competitive pokemon is literally a game based on reads and predictions. Maybe if you weren't so ass at those two things, you wouldn't be making pithy arguments that belittle their value.

git fucking gud, dipshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 14:27:32 No.32899381 Report

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>>32891825
>Swinub used snow powder!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 14:28:56 No.32899386 Report

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>>32899346
There's a reason /vp/ shitters play singles and not doubles

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Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 14:31:02 No.32899403 Report

Quoted By: >>32900663

This might not be the best place to put this but I don't see many threads around here dedicated to competitive smogon tiers discussion.

I've been trying to get into SM a bit, but I don't play much pokemon so I don't very well know what I'm doing, if any of you have some suggestions for this team I'd love to hear them

I've tried the most replacements in the Chandelure slot, at various times I was using Mega Medicham, Mega Heracross, and Alolan Marowak.

also I've been trying to think of a way to make it less free to earthquake

whimsicott has been doing a surprisingly good job of switching into them, but there's some awkwardness trying to pivot back into something that's a threat without a sac

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 15:59:37 No.32899814 Report

Quoted By: >>32899836

>>32891123
I find it funny that some people are actually running HP ice on this thing just to counter other opposing landorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:04:57 No.32899836 Report

Quoted By: >>32899861 >>32899879 >>32899892

>>32899814

>just to counter opposing Landorus

yeah that's exactly why, bud. there are totally no other strong physical attackers in OU which also happen to be quad weak to Ice and that Landorus typically switches in on. Nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:08:48 No.32899861 Report

Quoted By: >>32899878 >>32899934

>>32899836
>lando-t apologist this desperate to find boogeymen he blames shitmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:12:00 No.32899878 Report

Quoted By: >>32899943

>>32899861

>zy "CB thousand arrows" garde and garchomp are shitmons

you have reached an entirely new dimension of retardation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:12:22 No.32899879 Report

Quoted By: >>32899934

>>32899836
>MUH CHOMP

Fuck off retard lando never needed HP ice to deal with It It's mostly used to deal with other opposing landos with the bonus of maybe OHKOing other quad weak shitmons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:15:05 No.32899892 Report

Quoted By: >>32899934

>>32899836
Killing other Landos is literally the sole reason they run HP Ice at all you dumb fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:20:31 No.32899934 Report

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>>32899861
>>32899879
>>32899892
it is really sad just how little /vp/ knows about competitive, and how aggressively they state otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:22:03 No.32899943 Report

Quoted By: >>32899975

>>32899878
FORTY TWO PERCENT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:28:25 No.32899975 Report

Quoted By: >>32899990

>>32899943

remember when snorlax was banned in gen 2 for having above 50% usage? oh wait, you don't...because it wasn't. because high usage doesn't determine banworthiness, no matter how much shitters like you think it should.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/is-snorlax-banworthy-in-gsc-ou.3541958/
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/someone-refresh-my-memory.3530916/
http://pokemon-online.eu/threads/20381/

any other arguments you'd like me to demolish, or are you done getting publicly embarrassed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:31:47 No.32899990 Report

Quoted By: >>32900042 >>32900179 >>32900241

>>32899975
LMAO fuck off to smash bros melee where you can enjoy playing fox vs fox endlessly. We patricians want variety.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:41:53 No.32900042 Report

Quoted By: >>32900148

>>32899990
lol only 1/5 of the top melee players actually mains fox

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:48:18 No.32900074 Report

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They got rid of her checks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:53:08 No.32900106 Report

Quoted By: >>32900165

>>32891123
>mega beedrill used hp ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 16:58:57 No.32900148 Report

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>>32900042
Makes it even more embarrassing that melee, known for "fox only final destination" memes actually has more variety than ou where like 700 pokemon are legal(compare with melees 26 characters). You are a flaming autist if you defend this even if there is a huge amount of shitmons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 17:00:52 No.32900165 Report

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>>32900106

252+ SpA Mega Beedrill Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-T: 124-148 (32.4 - 38.7%) -- 4.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Mega Beedrill Hidden Power Ice vs. 72 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 128-152 (37.9 - 45.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Mega Beedrill Hidden Power Ice vs. 56 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 128-152 (38.4 - 45.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

3 most common lando sets

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 17:02:22 No.32900179 Report

Quoted By: >>32900242

>>32899990

>LMAO fuck off to chess where you can enjoy playing black vs white endlessly. we patricians want variety.

Thoughtless celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd

Thoughtless celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd Fri 30 Jun 2017 17:10:00 No.32900236 Report

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>>32891581
walrein can wall some things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 17:10:21 No.32900241 Report

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>>32899990
There are other tiers, you know. And if you don't like UU you can try out RU, or NU if you don't like that, or Ubers if you don't like those, then if you've still not found a tier you like you can try Smogon Doubles and other metagames. There are a lot of options besides whining on an imageboard, you see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 17:10:23 No.32900242 Report

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>>32900179
What's this supposed to imply? That chess is shitty? I won't defend that. Or are you trying to say lando-t vs lando-t has some kind of value in terms of skill? Go explore the rest of the pokedex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 17:52:07 No.32900654 Report

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someone post the valentine's day card of landorus

Thoughtless Celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd

Thoughtless Celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd Fri 30 Jun 2017 17:53:44 No.32900663 Report

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>>32899403
try using a slow u-turn/voltswitcher. those give you safe switch out.

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