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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:24:55 No.32909078 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32909101 >>32909180 >>32909224 >>32909286 >>32909352 >>32909554

>PU
How do we make her good?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:27:03 No.32909101 Report

Quoted By: >>32909113 >>32909116

>>32909078
Unsavable. Both in design and viability. Let's focus on something that can be fixed. Make him into a top tier OU sweeper!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:28:05 No.32909109 Report

Quoted By: >>32909177

>Smogon tiers
Just use it? That's how you can get it to OU. Just use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:28:27 No.32909113 Report

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>>32909101
Give her Shadow Sneak and 20 more Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:28:39 No.32909116 Report

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>>32909101
Wouldn't the one that can be fixed and be OU be Primarina? It is high UU, I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:33:06 No.32909143 Report

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How to fix Decidueye:
Swap Special Attack and Speed.

How to fix Incineroar:
Swap Special Attack and Speed.

How to fix Primarina:
Pick one of the other two starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:33:54 No.32909148 Report

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Intimidate and more moves. It's an incredible fuck up that a Pokemon based on dirty fighting doesn't have Sucker Punch or Knock Off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:34:52 No.32909152 Report

Quoted By: >>32909186

>32909143
>inciting starterwars
Please, consider suicide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:36:53 No.32909177 Report

Quoted By: >>32909183

>Give it the Intimidate meme

Alas >>32909109

That's not exactly how Smogon tiers work. Primarina is used because she's actually decently good due to its typing despite some errs here and there. Decidueye is only okay, but pretty fucking frail and I'm admitting this as a owl fan, messed up stats here. For Incineroar to become PU though, even that goes beyond my imagination as to why, because I know he's still got some bulk to him and some good attacks. People just seem really unmotivated to pick him up, I guess. I'm not sure why (I mean, besides pointless design bickering/nitpicking, I'm legitimately talking about competitive viability here).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:37:17 No.32909180 Report

Quoted By: >>32909257

>>32909078
>Release Intimidate
>Add Fire Lash, Knock Off, Sucker Punch, Gunk Shot, Thunderpunch to its movepool.
These changes are hardly radical or invasive(which means they have a chance to actually happen), but would be enough to move it to RU at least. If you are skeptical remember that last gen a bunch of new moves was enough to push Pangoro to BL2 from PU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:37:38 No.32909183 Report

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>>32909177
>she

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:38:13 No.32909186 Report

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>>32909152
>taking the starterwar bait
just as bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:44:20 No.32909224 Report

Quoted By: >>32909321

>>32909078
The thing that's really hurting Incineroar right now and my personal theory as to why Incineroar is in PU despite having really good stat distribution is the complete and utter lack of electric coverage for water types. It has absolutely NO answer for when a water type enters the field. Hell, it doesn't even get thunder fang as an egg move, let alone thunder punch or wild charge.

Giving it some more dark type moves would help a lot too, mostly knock off. Give it those and he'll surely shoot up a tier or two.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:48:41 No.32909257 Report

Quoted By: >>32909280 >>32909530

>>32909180
>giving away signature moves in the same gen

>32909186
>not giving a (You)
>implying I took the bait
>implying I would take this bait too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:51:52 No.32909280 Report

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>>32909257
I imagine you've never heard of Spiky Shield, Mystical Fire and Water Shuriken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:52:58 No.32909286 Report

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>>32909078
Swap special attack and speed.
Release intimidate.
Give it knock off. Sucker Punch. Fire Punch. Close Combat. Stone Edge. Rock Slide. Agility

There. You now have a bulky intimidate user with a rare, niche typing that can create momentum with u-turn, spam knock off and toxic, be a setup sweeper with edgequake coverage if it needs, or just be an all around good physical attacker that is now able to run a decent scarf set with high powered moves and at least base 80 speed.

Not to act like it would be OU or anything, but it would get a spot on RU, UU even.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:53:52 No.32909293 Report

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>>32909280
Oh yeah, I forgot about those, my mistake. Still, they didn't redistribute them in games taking place in the same region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 21:58:02 No.32909321 Report

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>>32909224
When move tutors come along and Incineroar gets both Knock Off and Thunder Punch, it should rise a little.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 22:02:58 No.32909352 Report

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>>32909078
PU is my favorite tier tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 22:25:40 No.32909530 Report

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>>32909257
alright buddy
sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2017 22:29:17 No.32909554 Report

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>>32909078
Wait for the next VGC after she gets her HA

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 02:28:39 No.32911487 Report

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>how to fix Primarina

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