>>32970899probably torterra; after a shell smash, timid turt barely outspeeds base 120 mons, it's way too easy to revenge. Defensive sets are ass because no recovery. Torterra can rock polish, SD, go defensive and set rocks, double dance, or go banded (or scarf on mono ground, believe it or not). I want to like turtonator, but it just isn't any good. Torterra's got something going on.