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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:33:21 No.33000108 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33000119 >>33000123 >>33000124 >>33000131 >>33000153

>Stall as fuck
>Overly centralized around a few Pokemon
>Curse to win
>Games take 100 turns on average
Was Gen II singles the worst meta? Is it even possible to fix?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:34:29 No.33000119 Report

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>>33000108
They made a gen 2 snorlaxless ladder IIRC

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:35:08 No.33000123 Report

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>>33000108
Gentoo was fundamentally a stall centric meta, there's nothing you can change about that.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:35:24 No.33000124 Report

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>>33000108
Good thing there was no real competitive scene before gen3

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:35:57 No.33000126 Report

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>>33000000

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:36:10 No.33000128 Report

Quoted By: >>33000141

adding natures, abilities, EVs, IVs and a hundred or so new pokemon?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:36:56 No.33000131 Report

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>>33000108
>Games take 100 turns on average
Try 200. With both sides using offensive teams.

I'm still having flashbacks to that one gen 2 warstory on smogon which lasted like 700 turns that the author described as "dynamic and exciting".

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:38:54 No.33000141 Report

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>>33000128
>Muh minmaxing

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:40:53 No.33000151 Report

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>>33000141
>missing the joke

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:41:16 No.33000153 Report

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>>33000108
>Is it even possible to fix?
Introduce offensive held items that don't suck?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:44:22 No.33000173 Report

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>>33000151
>Implying anyone but a blind wombat would miss the implications.
As I said before, muh minmaxing.

>>33000153
Maybe. It's kind of weird that Leftovers are basically the only usable item in the game.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:47:24 No.33000185 Report

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>>33000173
>As I said before, muh minmaxing.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:48:20 No.33000195 Report

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>Ghost doesn't hit psychic SE because of a glitch
>Bug type has shit moves
>Speed-based crits
>Psychic types rule the meta
>Half the dex is part poison and thus unusable
You forget Gen I exists, anon

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 17:58:31 No.33000258 Report

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>Is it even possible to fix?
Yes, just ban Leftovers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2017 18:08:11 No.33000312 Report

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>>33000195
Gen I meta is actually pretty fucking fun. Speed-based crits give mons like Persian more of a niche, things tend to move fairly quickly, Psychics have to watch out for hard hitting normal moves, Rock/Ground and fucking Ice Pokemon are not only viable, but good. Honestly, with a few tweaks (fixing ghost types, giving bugs a psychic resist and general stat buff, buffing fire/fighting/flying types by giving them better access to moves and buffing their attacks, and buffing shitmons in general) it could be the most balanced meta.

Not even a Genwunner (Gen V is my personal favorite gen, followed closely by IV), but I have a far easier time imagining a balanced Gen I meta than a balanced Gen IV or V meta.

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