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Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 15:24:24 No.33049347 View View Reply Original Report

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Hwo do we fix OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 15:26:50 No.33049366 Report

Quoted By: >>33049376 >>33049382

It doesn't need fixing. You fags just like to complain.
Lando is fine, Magearna is fine and the Tapus are fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 15:27:28 No.33049370 Report

Quoted By: >>33049375

>>33049347
Split it into two different tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 15:28:04 No.33049375 Report

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>>33049370
Are you aware UU exists?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 15:28:13 No.33049376 Report

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>>33049366

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 15:29:18 No.33049381 Report

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I don't get it. There's always a pokemon/playstyle that completely dominates. Are people complaining just because Lando-T is dominating 2 gens in a row?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 15:29:18 No.33049382 Report

Quoted By: >>33050044 >>33050504 >>33052811 >>33056179

>>33049366
Yes it fucking does. The meta is absolute chaos and needs a lot of bans.

First thing to do is remove Dugtrio because it's cancerous horse shit and legit has no counterplay at all. Then Greninja and Magearna and possibly even Lele (if Mage gets banned) need to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 15:31:11 No.33049388 Report

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Reboot the franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 17:01:54 No.33049903 Report

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delete magearna

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 17:05:28 No.33049933 Report

Quoted By: >>33050066

Ban the entirety of S and A+ rank

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 17:21:11 No.33050044 Report

Quoted By: >>33051243

>>33049382
Why the fuck does /vp/ keep saying Lele is broken? Nigga just use a steel type lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 17:24:57 No.33050066 Report

Quoted By: >>33050197 >>33050227

>>33049933
>banning fucking mew and heatran of all things
/vp/ really is bad at competitive. Why do we constantly have competitive threads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 17:44:02 No.33050197 Report

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>>33050066
I like them. They are entertaining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 17:47:16 No.33050227 Report

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>>33050066
So people can constantly complain about how they can never manage to reach 1300 elo whilst trying to Karenfag their way through the ladder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 18:19:35 No.33050504 Report

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>>33049382
>Banning Duggy
He does the same thing he has been doing since gen3, there's no reason to ban him.
>Muh 100 atk
It barely nets him like 3 new 2HKOs
>Muh Stall
Ban Chansey instead, that faggot blanket check to every special attacker is the main reason Stall can have 4 other slots dedicated to other defensive mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 19:45:38 No.33051243 Report

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>>33050044
>*unzips z-move*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 20:20:07 No.33051568 Report

Quoted By: >>33051787 >>33056519

>>33050504
>dugtrio's only broken on stall

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 20:48:38 No.33051787 Report

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>>33051568
Use Latias.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 20:57:55 No.33051853 Report

Quoted By: >>33051859 >>33056519

>>33051787
Too bad that core is run with ttar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 20:58:47 No.33051859 Report

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>>33051853
Eject Button. You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 21:35:53 No.33052136 Report

Quoted By: >>33052144

>>33051859
Is something that's only used to trap shit with duggy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 21:36:45 No.33052144 Report

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>>33052136
Eject Button Latios/as has seen Tournament play in order to keep them alive even after TTar pursuits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 22:46:56 No.33052742 Report

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>>33049347
>implying competitive pokemon isnt inherently cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 22:56:09 No.33052811 Report

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>>33049382
>remove Dugtrio
whoa it's not like there is like a move that can force the user that can switch out, what was it called again?????? y-turn???
there's also not two types that can easily escape arena trap's clutches, damn....

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 22:59:52 No.33052835 Report

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>>33049347
Reminder that rain is unironically the best playstyle right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 23:01:25 No.33052847 Report

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>>33052811
>every pokemon gets u-turn especially things that counter char-y!! xdddd!!!
die

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 23:03:37 No.33052858 Report

Quoted By: >>33052868 >>33052888 >>33053092 >>33056189

>>33049347
Why is Zard Y more viable than its X counterpart?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 23:04:55 No.33052868 Report

Quoted By: >>33052888 >>33052890

>>33052858
Becuase Zard X loses to Lando-T, Heatran, Toxapex among other things that Zard Y doesn't lose to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 23:07:55 No.33052888 Report

Quoted By: >>33056257

>>33052868
>>33052858
Also because everyone runs fast scarfers with Stone Miss for Volcarona, all of which incidentally check Zard X

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 23:08:09 No.33052890 Report

Quoted By: >>33052994

>>33052868
Can't Zard X destroy two of those mons with EQ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 23:09:16 No.33052894 Report

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make tauros great again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 23:10:10 No.33052897 Report

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>>33049347
We go back to Gen 4 and start over

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 23:24:57 No.33052994 Report

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>>33052890
Only if it gives up Roost, which makes it longevity shit, or if it gives up Dragon Claw, meaning its walled by opposing Dragons. Zard X has huge 4mss currently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jul 2017 23:37:36 No.33053092 Report

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>>33052858
The existence of Landorus-T alone makes it difficult for X to do anything. Intimidate just completely stops it from sweeping. It also gets walled hard by Heatran if it lacks Earthquake, which it usually has trouble making room for.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 00:13:39 No.33053340 Report

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>remove duggy
>remove greninja bros
>remove magearna
>remove zygarde
I-is she good now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 00:15:05 No.33053351 Report

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ban jirachi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 03:06:08 No.33054544 Report

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>>33049347
We ban EVERYTHING!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 03:10:50 No.33054575 Report

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>>33049347
RU is the real metagame now. Everything above is just layers of banlists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 03:14:01 No.33054593 Report

Quoted By: >>33054613

>>33049347
First remove Magearna. Then see what happens and what needs to be banned after that.

But seeing as it took 5 months to ban Pheromosa, that'll be in a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 03:14:48 No.33054599 Report

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>>33049347
Give gengar back levitate and buff weaker mons(including weaker megas like banette) any way possible.
>>33052897
That is not a bad idea either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 03:16:49 No.33054602 Report

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>>33049347
seriously just don''t play OU. UU RU and NU is much more fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 03:18:06 No.33054613 Report

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>>33054593
>they'll hold it off for as long as possible with more """""""""""tournaments""""""""""" (read: circlejerks)
>then they'll say "well USUM just came out and it's a new meta, let's wait for a couple of more months"
>then decide it's too much of a "glue" that "keeps the meta balanced" to ban
Every fucking time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 08:30:50 No.33056029 Report

Quoted By: >>33056147

ban lele reeeee

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:11:55 No.33056147 Report

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>>33056029
Just run a damn Magearna. It's not that hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:23:56 No.33056179 Report

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>>33049382
>Ban Dugtrio
Fucking Landofags trying to scapegoat a new Boogeyman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:26:50 No.33056189 Report

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>>33052858
Zard Y's only weakness really is Kucko and sly pebbles. Sun makes also makes it a special wall and free solar beam
Zard X needs DD to sweep and has a lot more checks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:37:09 No.33056211 Report

Quoted By: >>33056219

Rename OU EU
Rename UU OU

OU is now good again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:39:38 No.33056219 Report

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>>33056211
>Rename OU EU
>Scrafty is now on every team

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:47:02 No.33056238 Report

Quoted By: >>33056254 >>33056256 >>33056283

>>33049347
just remove legendaries
even the garbage ones to be fair

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:50:44 No.33056254 Report

Quoted By: >>33056272 >>33056280

>>33056238
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:51:09 No.33056256 Report

Quoted By: >>33056280

>>33056238
Regice is a better special wall than Chansey

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:51:21 No.33056257 Report

Quoted By: >>33056310

>>33052888
but wouldnt that check char y even harder?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:56:43 No.33056272 Report

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>>33056254
Remember when Articuno was good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:59:07 No.33056280 Report

Quoted By: >>33056323

>>33056254
>>33056256
>Landorus
>Thundurus
>Tornadus
>Black Kyurem
>Hoopa
>Magearna
>Celesteela (UBs count shut up)
>Kartana
>Heatran
>Bulu
>Koko
>Fini
>Lele
>Zygarde
>Keldeo
>Jirachi
>Latios
Never got the "legendaries are healthy" meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:59:53 No.33056283 Report

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>>33056238
This. All legendaries are cancer. Even Phione and Articuno

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 10:07:40 No.33056310 Report

Quoted By: >>33056326

>>33056257
Char X is basically DD up and sweep and that got a lot harder with more people bringing Volc counters. There is also fini to stop it, duggy can trap it etc

Zard Y just hits like a truck and then switches out, the latis don't see as much play as before because of the new fairies and Gren so and there are no new counters/checks because nothing wants to switch into sun boosted fire / grass / fighting coverage that could also carry HP Ice

So basically new mons and meta changes hurt X while Y doesn't care at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 10:10:51 No.33056323 Report

Quoted By: >>33056365 >>33056402

>>33056280
>Aegislash
>Blaziken
>Greninja
>Dugtrio
>Tangrowth
>Garchomp
>Clefable
>Tyranitar
>Volcarona
>Ferrothorn
>Toxapex
>Chansey
>Skarmory
>Pelipper

Never got the "normal Pokémon are healthy" meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 10:11:32 No.33056326 Report

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>>33056310
Oh cool. I always thought Y was the superior mega anyway.

Luna 1092-2578-6873

Luna 1092-2578-6873 Tue 18 Jul 2017 10:20:36 No.33056362 Report

Quoted By: >>33056370

>>33049347
Blanket ban on all legos and UBs. There, I fixed the meta
>b-but muh Articuno!
nobody gives a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 10:21:19 No.33056365 Report

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>>33056323
>implying Tangrowth isn't used primarily to wall Zygarde
>implying Clefable wasn't an NU shitmon before Fairy-type was introduced
>STILL complaining about Chansey
>STILL complaining about walls
>actually thinking fucking toilet bird is broken
>implying pseudo-legendaries are normal pokemon
>implying Volcarona which is pretty much a pseudo-legendary and has a temple built to worship it thus making it more of a legendary in its own right than pseudo-legendaries is a normal pokemon
But Regigigas dude am I right??

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 10:22:07 No.33056370 Report

Quoted By: >>33056375

>>33056362
I give a shit. Registeel is my RU bro.

Luna 1092-2578-6873

Luna 1092-2578-6873 Tue 18 Jul 2017 10:23:35 No.33056375 Report

Quoted By: >>33056384

>>33056370
Making the mother of all omelets here, Jack. Can't afford to cry over every egg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 10:25:36 No.33056384 Report

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>>33056375
Don't provoke me, human.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 10:30:49 No.33056402 Report

Quoted By: >>33056501

>>33056323
>Aegislash
Protect is every second move the mon
>Blaziken
Frail and needs a SD to be good
>Greninja
Got me there
>Dugtrio
Landofag trying to scapegoat a new Boogeyman
>Tangrowth
>Garchomp
Your Lando and Zygarde faggotry is glowing
>Clefable
Being good at stall /= to broken
>Tyranitar
Timburr used mach punch
>Volcarona
Volcarona ROCKS
>Ferrothorn
Slugma used ember
>Toxapex
Everything has earthquake
>Chansey
Everyone used knock off
>Skarmory
See Clafable
>Pelipper
Oh you're fucking joking now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:04:55 No.33056501 Report

Quoted By: >>33056523

>>33056402
I could try to make a similar cherrypicking post but I can't be arsed to do that. Half of the legendaries mentioned in that post aren't even A- rank and every single ordinary mon I mentioned is more meta defining and """broken""" than those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:11:35 No.33056519 Report

Quoted By: >>33057013 >>33057153

>>33051568
>>33051853
Shit i love char y dug and ttar. What else would I need on that team? I generally avoid ou because I hate most of the top tier mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:13:21 No.33056523 Report

Quoted By: >>33056529

>>33056501
>list of "broken" non legendaries in OU is shorter than the list of "broken" legendaries in OU despite there being many more non legendaries than legendaries
>even includes shit like Skarm/Pex/Ferro despite all three of them being BTFO by a single magnet
>includes fucking Pelipper as if it's a threat on par with Magearna and Heatranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:14:58 No.33056529 Report

Quoted By: >>33056538

>>33056523
>Pelipper
>not a threat to Heatran

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:18:10 No.33056538 Report

Quoted By: >>33056545 >>33056554

>>33056529
>252 SpA Heatran Bloom Doom (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 64 SpD Pelipper: 255-300 (78.9 - 92.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Nice reading comprehension by the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:18:54 No.33056545 Report

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>>33056538
fuck you gaylord

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:20:42 No.33056554 Report

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>>33056538
Pelipper usually runs more Sp.Def. these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 12:50:25 No.33056899 Report

Quoted By: >>33056924

Make an option to filter certain mons on Showdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 12:55:30 No.33056924 Report

Quoted By: >>33057117

>>33056899
This would be interesting only if it also prevented you from using the mons you filter out. Otherwise everybody would ladder to the top using landorus and magearna against teams without landorus and magearna.

It would still be a weirdly problematic feature, in a way. Imagine your team doesn't use volcarona and is built in such a way that the biggest (and pretty much only) threat to it is volcarona. You filter the moth out, and you will only ever play games in which you don't have to worry about it, making your ladder experience easier. Everybody would filter out chansey and dugtrio, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:17:33 No.33057013 Report

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>>33056519
mew

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:29:22 No.33057051 Report

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>>33049347
Insta-ban any mon that reaches over 25% usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:45:34 No.33057117 Report

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>>33056924
Just make it so only games with no filter affect your elo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:53:10 No.33057153 Report

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>>33056519
Mag, Ash-Gren and Lando obviously :^)

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