/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #33053453

Her themes, just like Wally's battle theme, seriously conflict with the rest of the soundtrack and stick out like a sore thumb. The low-quality instruments don't help it much, either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 06:37:24 No.33055646 Report

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>>33053453
Ask Guzma

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 06:38:28 No.33055651 Report

Quoted By: >>33055658

>>33055608
She's a Mary Sue.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 06:38:28 No.33055652 Report

Quoted By: >>33056694

>>33055608
Difference in opinion. You'll either love her for saving the world, or hate her for acting like an asshole.

Also, I'm looking forward to more autistic argument. The last thread ended prematurely, which is kinda sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 06:40:28 No.33055658 Report

Quoted By: >>33055668

>>33055651
Why do you say that? I think she has plenty of flaws, and is kind of an unreliable character

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 06:41:59 No.33055668 Report

Quoted By: >>33055674 >>33055687 >>33055719 >>33056164 >>33056605

>>33055658
Every time she fucks up, she gets away with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 06:43:35 No.33055674 Report

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>>33055668
Well, the delta episode is a pretty isolated story
How can you really tell if she gets away with it? The entire thing is a vehicle for the Rayquaza and Deoxys encounters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 06:47:00 No.33055687 Report

Quoted By: >>33055998

>>33055668
Guzma is a criminal and gets away with it. So he is a Gary Stu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 06:55:20 No.33055719 Report

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>>33055668
Not enough to make her a Mary Sue. Try again.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 07:26:09 No.33055820 Report

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Replying to >>33047733 →

I made this picture. Sadly not part of any larger movie, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 07:57:57 No.33055903 Report

Quoted By: >>33055988

>>33055820
She is in love with Steven?

That is my headcanon as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 08:20:48 No.33055988 Report

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>>33055903
Partly in love, partly drunk ATM.

Steven's just having a Pepsi because he's probably the designated driver.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 08:21:25 No.33055991 Report

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>>33055538
I'll bite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 08:23:51 No.33055998 Report

Quoted By: >>33056216

>>33055687
The difference is that people tell off Team Skull instead of idly standing by like "ohh, that's alright"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:19:17 No.33056164 Report

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>>33055668
"fucking up" kinda disqualifies a character to be a mary sue you illiterate turd.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:22:03 No.33056173 Report

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 09:38:52 No.33056216 Report

Quoted By: >>33056547 >>33056558

>>33055998
Yeah and everyon treats Zinnia like a villan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:19:12 No.33056547 Report

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>>33056216
Is she not? Everything she does for the "greater good" is wrong, and she only does stupid shit without second though because the plot demands a setup for a Rayquaza/Deoxys fight
It doesn't matter if you're doing it with good intent, you'll get shat on no matter what you did fucked everyone else over

And by extension, Delta Episode just sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:22:13 No.33056558 Report

Quoted By: >>33056568 >>33056583

>>33056216
>>33056216
Is she not? If not villain, she's just an anti-hero, which doesn't give her any extra points desu
Everything she does for the "greater good" is wrong, and she only does stupid shit without second though because the plot demands a setup for a Rayquaza/Deoxys fight
It doesn't matter if you're doing it with good intent, you'll get shat on because what you did fucked everyone else over

And by extension, Delta Episode just sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:27:31 No.33056568 Report

Quoted By: >>33056694 >>33056773

>>33056558
So? Guzma does the same and nobody complains about him getting away with it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:31:00 No.33056583 Report

Quoted By: >>33056627

>>33056558

I don't care what you fools say about her.
No one is worst than Cyrus.

Cyrus wanted to destroy the Universe itself and recreate a new universe.

do you realize that erasing almost all Pokémon in existence?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:39:57 No.33056605 Report

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>>33055668

No one is worst than Cyrus.

He wanted to destroy the Universe itself and recreate a new universe.

Erasing all of the Pokémon that you know and love.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:43:57 No.33056627 Report

Quoted By: >>33056639 >>33056646

>>33056583
Almost? Who lives?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:47:16 No.33056639 Report

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>>33056627

Erase =/= death

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 11:49:03 No.33056646 Report

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>>33056627

I created a error. I meant, all of the Pokémon in the Universe.

There are Pokémon who live in parallel universes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 12:06:11 No.33056694 Report

Quoted By: >>33056809

>>33055652
Or base your opinion on what she actually did.
But based on the last thread that's not an option.

>>33056568
Yeah, but Guzma is male so you can't be a waifufag if you like him. So you're fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 12:26:48 No.33056773 Report

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>>33056568
Guzma actually has some alright story behind him, and it's understandable why he became a delinquent
Zinnia almost had something but that didn't really justify her actions

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 12:34:53 No.33056809 Report

Quoted By: >>33056875

>>33056694
Aren't you just repeating what I said?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 12:46:55 No.33056875 Report

Quoted By: >>33056889

>>33056809
Which one of the two posts are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 12:48:50 No.33056889 Report

Quoted By: >>33056916

>>33056875
Sorry about that. It's the "difference in opinion" one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 12:53:55 No.33056916 Report

Quoted By: >>33056950 >>33056982

>>33056889
Well, what I meant is that its not as simple as "she saved the world so she's good" or "she was a dick so saving the world is irrelevant", she helped saving the world but she fucked up in some aspects. Keyword being some.

The problem is that people here either like her for her looks or hate her for made up reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:00:10 No.33056950 Report

Quoted By: >>33057067

>>33056916
>"she was a dick so saving the world is irrelevant"
That's not the reason? She just ignores the opinion of other people and leads to extinction of the world even twice.

>she helped saving the world but she fucked up in some aspects
"She fucked up in some aspect". Are you kidding me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:01:20 No.33056953 Report

Quoted By: >>33057517

>>33053453

What's so bad about her? She seems pretty average by Pokemon standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:10:32 No.33056982 Report

Quoted By: >>33057059

>>33056916
Understandable. In my defense, I was pretty salty with how the thread usually ends up, so I don't really bother saying more than that.
Not saying I like/dislike Zinnia, mind. Just that a character thread turning into an endless argument is a particularly sore spot for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:31:25 No.33057059 Report

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>>33056982
>Just that a character thread turning into an endless argument is a particularly sore spot for me.
Its less about Zinnia and more about /vp/ loving misinformation and headcanon which happen in other threads about other topics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:32:28 No.33057067 Report

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>>33056950
We're not doing this again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 13:36:09 No.33057081 Report

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>>33053453
You missed the good version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7joCXpQ6z4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 15:08:15 No.33057517 Report

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>>33056953
She nearly destroyed the world with her hero complex

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 15:14:02 No.33057551 Report

Quoted By: >>33058911 >>33059602

>>33055608
>literal Mary Sue
>stands like a chimp
>joined an evil team and subtly pushed it to awaken the big weather monster hoping it would summon rayquza, nearly ending the world
>nearly ends the world the second time when she attacks the player and destroys a valuable device that would have destroyed the meteor, claiming that it would kill an alternate universe despite having no evidence to back up her outlandish claim (she ends up being right but it's the principle of the matter)
>never once apologizes for being a colossal cunt
>game is written so that everyone acts like she was in the right anyway
>fucking failed to summon rayquaza in the end
>battle theme wasted on a scripted curb stomp battle

Zinnia is awful. Her only redeeming qualities are an excellent online vs theme option, and great tits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 15:14:55 No.33057559 Report

Quoted By: >>33057681

>>33053453
Your mom is a bad character.

Zinnia saved ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 15:41:37 No.33057681 Report

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>>33057559
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 17:46:23 No.33058388 Report

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>>33053453
I want to forcefully mate with her

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 17:59:24 No.33058460 Report

Quoted By: >>33058771 >>33059657

What went RIGHT in your opinion?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 18:52:22 No.33058771 Report

Quoted By: >>33061939

>>33058460
No Battle Frontier

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 19:11:50 No.33058911 Report

Quoted By: >>33058965

>>33057551
>>nearly ends the world the second time when she attacks the player and destroys a valuable device that would have destroyed the meteor, claiming that it would kill an alternate universe despite having no evidence to back up her outlandish claim (she ends up being right but it's the principle of the matter)

That was the smartest thing she did in the Delta episode, though.

She has no proof to her claim, but she knows she's right. and she is right. She knows no one is going to believe her and use the device themselves, so she just destroys it so they can't and fuck everything up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 19:22:02 No.33058965 Report

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>>33058911
>That was the smartest thing she did in the Delta episode, though.
No, it stops being smart or having any sort of positive value because Zinnia did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:58:47 No.33059602 Report

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>>33057551
>literal Mary Sue
her name isn't actually "Mary Sue" so she can't "literally" be one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 21:04:33 No.33059655 Report

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>>33058388

I'm sure she's absolutely crazy in bed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 21:04:50 No.33059657 Report

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>>33058460

Dexnav, soaring, secret bases

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 21:09:16 No.33059711 Report

Quoted By: >>33059760

Better version of the theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodSSLnXoyo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jul 2017 21:13:40 No.33059760 Report

Quoted By: >>33061668

>>33059711
No e-celeb bullshit.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 01:21:17 No.33061668 Report

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>>33059760

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:02:11 No.33061939 Report

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>>33058771
>Battle Palace
Hilariously enough, that was one of the easiest facilities for me. My pokemon generally used the correct moves, even though they had competitive natures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:46:34 No.33063641 Report

Quoted By: >>33063834

>>33055820
>Maxie sieg-heiling the führer
what did you mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 07:28:27 No.33063834 Report

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>>33063641
It means he's terrified of the shark lying down on the floor next to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 07:37:45 No.33063861 Report

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>>33053453
Is it true she's been designed by a hentai writer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 09:11:55 No.33064210 Report

Quoted By: >>33064237 >>33064303

The reason smart people hate zinnia is because results-oriented thinking is a 100% retarded way to think about things.

If 1000 people buy lottery tickets, and one person makes more money than they spent, that logically can't mean that the one person made a better decision than the other 999. They all made the same decision, it just so happens that it worked out better for some of them.

Zinnia's actions are that of a villain. Just because some of her baseless claims and evil actions turned out for the best doesn't change this. After all, the world turned out fine after Cyrus tried to destroy it, so if we apply the same retarded results-oriented thinking to his character, both Zinnia AND Cyrus are good guys!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 09:27:05 No.33064237 Report

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>>33064210
Not a good character comparison. Zinnia, even if her attempts were villainous, at the very least were meant for the benefit of the world. Cyrus, meanwhile, was a very selfish person who was fully fine wiht destroying the original world, so long as he got his solitude. Archie and Maxie, or even N would be a more apt comparison, due to the fact that they believe what they are doing is good for the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 09:51:29 No.33064303 Report

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>>33064210
Cyrus was about destroy the Universe itself using Dialga and Palkia.

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