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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:06:29 No.33061960 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33061974 >>33064424

>leave for 2 months
>the bromon everyone laughed at me for using in OU is actually OU
>Alakazam is back

What in the entire fuck happened? Did S/M change that much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:07:37 No.33061967 Report

Quoted By: >>33061991

Anon I'm so sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:07:47 No.33061969 Report

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I though Alakazam was banned to BL because of Counter+Magic Guard being available

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:08:16 No.33061974 Report

Quoted By: >>33061991

>>33061960
Oh you naive child

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:08:46 No.33061978 Report

Quoted By: >>33061987 >>33061992 >>33062036

>Alolan Marowak

Ok this is some wild shit. Is this a good meta currently?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:09:23 No.33061982 Report

Quoted By: >>33061988 >>33062002

Every new released mon starts off OU. I'm so sorry for your loss. I feel you man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:10:01 No.33061987 Report

Quoted By: >>33062007

>>33061978
the worst

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:10:14 No.33061988 Report

Quoted By: >>33064620

>>33061982
At least Gardevoir isn't going straight into NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:10:25 No.33061991 Report

Quoted By: >>33062135 >>33062239

>>33061974
>>33061967
I know I should lurk moar but can you please just spoonfeed me as to why these "shitmons" are all suddenly OU? Similar shit is happening in Yugioh and I'm confused.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:10:25 No.33061992 Report

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>>33061978
>Is this a good meta currently?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:11:32 No.33062002 Report

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>>33061982
Ohhhh so it just hasn't been updated yet?

Uh...has this made things difficult for you guys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:12:48 No.33062007 Report

Quoted By: >>33062012 >>33062020

>>33061987
Worse than weather wars? Worse than I Dream of Genies? Worse than I choose you Terrakion, gg no re?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:14:11 No.33062012 Report

Quoted By: >>33062025

>>33062007
>Worse than weather wars?
There's plenty of that now.

>Worse than I Dream of Genies?
There's one.

>Worse than I choose you Terrakion, gg no re?
More like "whoops, looks like your two Char-Y checks got their shit pushed in by Duggy, sorry gg ez fren :]"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:15:38 No.33062020 Report

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>>33062007
>listening to /vp/ about anything regarding competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:16:22 No.33062025 Report

Quoted By: >>33062033

>>33062012
Minus the second one, this sounds terrible. Is it bad across the board or just OU? Isn't fucking Conkledurr in UU now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:17:01 No.33062033 Report

Quoted By: >>33062040 >>33062043

>>33062025
Z-moves make everything bad, but OU is chaos and needs at least 5 bans to be functional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:17:19 No.33062036 Report

Quoted By: >>33062042

>>33061978
It's pretty decent. Low elo keep bitching about duggy+charY though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:18:08 No.33062040 Report

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>>33062033
Too fucking bad that Smogon is putting off this shit as long as humanly possible because "muh tourneys"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:19:10 No.33062042 Report

Quoted By: >>33062051

>>33062036
t. only played since gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:19:15 No.33062043 Report

Quoted By: >>33062056

>>33062033
>people are actually using Z moves
>OU needs at least 5 bans instead of the normal 1-3
>with a looming 3rd version of the games on the horizon

What timeline is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:20:01 No.33062051 Report

Quoted By: >>33062076 >>33062220

>>33062042
I've played since gen3. Duggy does what it has always done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:20:52 No.33062056 Report

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>>33062043
the worst

pokemon is going the way of assassin's creed and there's nothing we can do to stop it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:22:29 No.33062074 Report

Quoted By: >>33062099 >>33062126 >>33062139 >>33064924

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE.

YOU ALL SAID ALL NEWLY RELEASED POKEMON ARE OU

BUT I JUST CHECKED SMOGON AND APPARENTLY THIS MUTHAFUCKA IS ACTUALLY VIABLE IN OU.

CAMERUPT?

I WANT OFF.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:22:44 No.33062076 Report

Quoted By: >>33062112 >>33062121

>>33062051
>he thinks this meta is better than gen 4's
Do you enjoy pain? Are you undergoing an expiation or some shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:25:43 No.33062099 Report

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>>33062074
Megacamel is a super niche C-rank, but it's been used in WCoP a few times, and having an unwallable moveset has something going for it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:26:46 No.33062112 Report

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>>33062076
I never said it's better than gen4 I said it was pretty decent. It's not a horrible stallfest like gen 2, a luckfest like gen1 or a forced weather war like 5, it's just decent with plenty of viable options albeit a lot of them are too overwhelming.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:27:09 No.33062113 Report

Quoted By: >>33062128

>Volcanion
>UU

H-have you guys been doing alright?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:27:58 No.33062121 Report

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>>33062076
I like how much people suck gen 4s dick even though they're much too young to have ever played it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:28:44 No.33062126 Report

Quoted By: >>33062140

>>33062074
I thought it was always viable in Trick Room teams, even back in gen-6?

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:28:55 No.33062128 Report

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>>33062113
>Hoopa-U is not just OU but only B-rank
>Mega Metagross is Uber but Mega Mawile isn't
>Volcarona is one of the metagame-defining threats and A+

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:29:42 No.33062135 Report

Quoted By:

>>33061991
Well, in YGO, a combination of Links, new support cards, and banlist fears (OCG banlist murdered Zoos thoroughly).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:30:03 No.33062139 Report

Quoted By:

>>33062074
C is still C. Fairy resist and Electric immunity give it a decent niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:30:04 No.33062140 Report

Quoted By: >>33062375

>>33062126
When were TR teams ever consistently viable?They're like the Exodia deck of Pkmn

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:32:11 No.33062161 Report

Quoted By: >>33062189 >>33062252 >>33065283

Awww, this lil nigga actually turned out to be good.

Hm, I thought he'd just be a gimmickmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:33:50 No.33062189 Report

Quoted By:

>>33062161
It's ability is a free 1hp sub, of course he'd be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:37:08 No.33062220 Report

Quoted By:

>>33062051
Duggy's just one of many problems that plague this meta. It just happens to be one of the most cancerous ones because Arena Trap is a stupid fucking ability with legit no counterplay for the cores it's found in.

Greninja's still as broken as ever, and he's got a new form that's just as dumb. Whenever you see it on team preview you have to play "guess the set :^)". Same goes for Magearna, which has no reliable checks outside stall. Zygarde has pretty much the most broken signature move in the game next to Marshadow's. At least Pheromosa and MGross are gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:39:58 No.33062239 Report

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>>33061991
You're fucking stupid is what.
Everything is OU at the start of a generation. The the least used of those mons become UU. Then the least used of those mons in UU becomes RU, etc.

It is the same as new Pokemon. Banette is new, I guess they released its mega stone but I stopped caring about that. If Banette is in OU then that's because it's a new pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:41:33 No.33062252 Report

Quoted By:

>>33062161
>B-rank
eh. it's mostly used on webs which has been declining lately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 02:58:52 No.33062375 Report

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>>33062140
They're really matchup based but when the metagame favors them they do great.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 03:01:41 No.33062387 Report

Quoted By:

Do we really need one of these threads every time a new mega stone comes out? Jesus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 10:38:51 No.33064424 Report

Quoted By:

>>33061960
Every new mega that is released is automatically placed into OU and then they let it drop naturally instead of releasing broken megas into a lower tier. Give it time, Mega Banette will be RU real quick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 11:54:14 No.33064620 Report

Quoted By: >>33064756 >>33064773

>>33061988
But they're asking to rank it lower than fuckin' Primarina, which may mean it will end up in BL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 12:31:27 No.33064756 Report

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>>33064620
Primarina isn't a mega and has better typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 12:35:14 No.33064773 Report

Quoted By: >>33064835 >>33065245

>>33064620
Why the fuck is it B- to begin with. Shouldn't even be in the rankings at all. What's exactly Garde's niche?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 12:59:41 No.33064835 Report

Quoted By: >>33064856

>>33064773
Is a faster Tapu Lele that hits hard Fairy moves instead of hard Psychic moves

But wastes a mega slot, can't have an item, and doesn't have a Terrain that supports team mates and blocks priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 13:06:43 No.33064856 Report

Quoted By: >>33064973

>>33064835
but why does that justify b-

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 13:28:06 No.33064924 Report

Quoted By:

>>33062074
It's okay against Mag, completely rapes the elusive TR Mag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 13:40:27 No.33064973 Report

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>>33064856
It doesn't, the ranking team is not infallible. They simply overstated its initial ranking.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 14:20:26 No.33065125 Report

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>mfw waiting for Mega Diancie to be released

say goodbye to OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 14:45:12 No.33065245 Report

Quoted By:

>>33064773
psychic terrain is kind of shit for priority users so garde lets you use things like ashgren alongside it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 14:52:51 No.33065283 Report

Quoted By:

>>33062161
Love this little guy. I run a Curse/Pain Split set on it, and it's hilarious lol

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