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Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 05:49:41 No.33063323 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33063379 >>33063428 >>33064341

Is Tsareena any good competitively? I had one late-game that basically sweeped Kukui (High Jump Kick + High speed stat worked in my favor) and I wanna know if it'd be worth breeding one as a sweeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 05:52:17 No.33063335 Report

Quoted By: >>33063345

The only way to really make Tsareena a viable attacker would be to attach a choice scarf to it, but even then it can be outclassed so its risky.

With rapid spin/synthesis and its considerable bulk it can be a decent support/spinner

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 05:54:02 No.33063345 Report

Quoted By: >>33063360 >>33063366 >>33063407

>>33063335
Really? It's base attack is pretty good, and it learns stomp early...

Did I just get lucky, stat-wise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 05:56:49 No.33063360 Report

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>>33063345

you're asking about competitive battling and you're using in game for reference. it can't sweep because it's slow. its only niches are as a spinner and as a pivot/cleaner with scarf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 05:58:22 No.33063366 Report

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>>33063345
Tsareena has good bulk and attack, but its base speed is very lackluster and a sweeper needs good to have speed. That's why it would pretty much need the scarf 100%.

It gets decent fighting/fairy coverage, but the grass typing also really let's it down.

It's not awful by any means, but if we're speaking competitive there are more viable scarf users out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:00:14 No.33063379 Report

Quoted By: >>33063433 >>33063458

>>33063323
Better than like 75% of Alola mons. It's one of the only non legend mon in UU along with Muk and the starters introduced in gen 7.

She is a great bulky spinner. And having the grass type gives her unique resistances, watch out for the common weakness tho. You could also take advantage of her ability by using choice scarf so that she'll 100% out speed the common metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:05:10 No.33063407 Report

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>>33063345
Also, you'd probably not want stomp.

Almost all attacking sets for Tsareena will have trop kick for the grass STAB/attack drop, play rough, high jump kick, and u-turn for the pivot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:08:49 No.33063428 Report

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>>33063323
It's ok in UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:09:50 No.33063433 Report

Quoted By: >>33064075

>>33063379
I was debating on using her or Toxapex in my Battle Royale team. (Others are Klefki and Alolan Raichu), so it's good to know she'd make a better spinner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:13:00 No.33063442 Report

Quoted By: >>33063448

Defensive Tsareena is good. This is what I use:

Tsareena @ Leftovers
Ability: Queenly Majesty
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Synthesis
- Rapid Spin
- U-turn
- Trop Kick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:15:06 No.33063448 Report

Quoted By: >>33063484 >>33063491

>>33063442
Any particular nature I should go for with this set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:17:14 No.33063458 Report

Quoted By: >>33063464

>>33063379
>along with Muk
It's kind of crazy that out of all the new Pokemon introduced, none of them compare to the OLD Pokemon.

Many of which were PU shitters before they got Alola forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:18:17 No.33063464 Report

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>>33063458
*not counting legends/UBs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:23:45 No.33063484 Report

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>>33063448
It says impish right there under the ev spread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:23:48 No.33063486 Report

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It's trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 06:25:22 No.33063491 Report

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>>33063448
It says Impish. +Def -SpA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 08:33:22 No.33064075 Report

Quoted By: >>33064302

>>33063433
Don't use Tsaareena there, Battle royale is a piece of slow shit barely rewarding content, if you are playing it for the battle pose/throwing style then just use this:
>Adamant Silvally with Normal gem, Sword dance, Explosion and filler moves.
>Your standard smogon Toxapex with Toxic Spikes.
>Mega-Salamence.
So you just SD and then explode with Silvally, after that you set up Toxic spikes (poison deaths will count as yours) or fuck shit up with Balancemence. After you complete every rank, say good bye to that garbage dump and never go back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 09:50:37 No.33064302 Report

Quoted By: >>33064343

>>33064075
>Adamant Silvally with Normal gem, Sword dance, Explosion and filler moves.
Why use Normal Gem when Life Orb does the same damage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 10:07:18 No.33064341 Report

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>>33063323
Ingame, whatever. You can use whatever you want.
Competitively, it's too slow to be a sweeper, and doesn't hit quite hard enough to be a wallbreaker. It also doesn't have as thorough a selection of status and support moves as grass types typically get, so it is limited.
Tsareena's main niche is as a Rapid spin user of an unusual type, or a somewhat meme-ey Scarf revenge.
You are typically looking at something like Trop Kick+U-Turn/Rapid Spin+Play Rough+High Jump Kick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 10:08:20 No.33064343 Report

Quoted By: >>33065957

>>33064302
Gems are 1.5x boosts if I'm remembering correctly, while LO is only 1.3x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 16:55:32 No.33065957 Report

Quoted By: >>33065977

>>33064343
Gems were nerfed to 1.3x.

So yeah, Life Orb is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jul 2017 16:59:43 No.33065977 Report

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>>33065957
To continue, I'd rather use Normalium Z so you have another nuke to break out before using Explosion.

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