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>>33073998
But I saw those battles happen, I played them. How are they not canon?

>>33074005
You're right, it's canon that, Ethan, Kris, lyra, Nate, Rosa, Sun, Moon is better. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:28:52 No.33074014 Report

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>>33073984
...!

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:30:18 No.33074024 Report

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>>33073994

He's won every battle he had that isn't against another protaginist and he only loses those battles because he wasn't being controlled by the player.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:30:54 No.33074029 Report

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>>33073994
>every battle
We have not seen every single battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:31:14 No.33074032 Report

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does Red have a legit disorder/disability?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:31:25 No.33074035 Report

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He's been power creeped so hard even his once powerful time stop is kinda useless.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:41:00 No.33074085 Report

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>>33073984
By far the only protag that comes close is Hilbert

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:43:16 No.33074097 Report

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considering the fact that I beat him with a half healthy team because I wasn't expecting it at all, no

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:45:17 No.33074111 Report

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>>33074032
Yes, he's also retarded for keeping a fucking Pikachu in his team. His battle at the entrance to the battle tree is literally a 6 VS 5 battle, this rat goes down in 1 hit. Blue's battle is way harder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:45:43 No.33074118 Report

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>>33074009
>You're right, it's canon that, Ethan, Kris, lyra, Nate, Rosa, Sun, Moon is better. :^)
Really? Can you tell me, anon, in which games I can battle them? :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:45:46 No.33074121 Report

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Is that a reference to my most favorite of anime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:46:06 No.33074126 Report

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Focus Blast aka Miss: The attack

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:48:47 No.33074141 Report

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>>33073999
Trips don't lie, anons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 16:49:53 No.33074153 Report

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>>33074118
>Really? Can you tell me, anon, in which games I can battle them? :^)
None, but they have all beaten Red which makes them better :^)

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 18:17:54 No.33074789 Report

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>She doesn't and will never exist because they didn't bother to make her the final challenge for the female PC in HGSS
sad!

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 18:29:01 No.33074886 Report

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The only reason anybody ever had trouble with him was because he overgrinded his shitty team of handouts ft Snorlax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 18:36:48 No.33074950 Report

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>>33073998
It still proofs that he can be beaten, it's just that the battle never happened.

Therefore, Nate and Rosa are the most powerful trainers we have seen, since they CAN defeat the champions from Kanto, Jhoto, Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova, and that includes Red.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 18:38:32 No.33074967 Report

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Always thought Blue was better

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 18:47:00 No.33075016 Report

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>>33073999
>>33074006
ITT its 2008

>>33074032
He has been memed into a silent guy.

>>33074789
Red is a fictional character so he doesn't exist either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 18:53:41 No.33075059 Report

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>>33075016
I meant that her existence is invalidated within the pokemon universe, as Red appears as a NPC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 21:40:15 No.33076180 Report

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>>33073984
Hell no, he's the LeBron of the Pokemon universe.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 22:30:21 No.33076566 Report

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>>33074967
Blue IS better. Wait, the girl or the dude? Damn mixing names...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 22:35:44 No.33076614 Report

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>>33074024
>He's won every battle he had that isn't against another protaginist and he only loses those battles because he wasn't being controlled by the player.
So, just like every other protagonist?

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 22:38:39 No.33076641 Report

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>>33073984
>Is the self-insert player character the most powerful trainer in existence?
Yes.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 23:25:56 No.33077005 Report

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>>33074153
>None
Then you just proved him right. I can break your nose in a punch and then run far away while telling my friends how i beat you in a fight regardless that you had no chance to fight back, even if you were a 200 pound chad.

> :^)

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 23:29:31 No.33077019 Report

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>>33073984
No, but I would pay to see him and Blue in their honeymoon suite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jul 2017 23:55:03 No.33077207 Report

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isn't he kinda awkward, i remember he went into the mountains and stayed there until gold came, hes been there for years

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:22:59 No.33077391 Report

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Defeating Red in Sun and Moon is NOT canon because in these games he moves his mouth but we can't read his dialogue. It's evidence that he's being "controlled" by a player ( we can't read the dialogue of any MC), therefore he is the MC, therefore he can't lose.
By the way, maybe this is valid for HGSS and BW2 too, but we don't have evidence (we can't see his mouth moving). Maybe the "..." actually resembles his silence in HGSS and BW2.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:26:43 No.33077410 Report

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>>33074085
>Red's pokemon team
Does this confirm that Yellow is canon?

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:28:33 No.33077420 Report

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>>33077410
No, she is a manga character.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:29:10 No.33077423 Report

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>>33077420
the game retard

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:32:31 No.33077436 Report

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>>33077423
She doesn't exist in the game because she is a manga character. Can't you even read?

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:37:10 No.33077461 Report

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>>33074035

it's because of the damn pikachu he has on his team

yare yare

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:38:48 No.33077475 Report

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>>33073984
No

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:46:35 No.33077524 Report

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>>33077475

I also think Hilbert is one, if not the most powerful trainer. In BW2 they refer to him in certain points of the game, even N acknowledges him as a powerful trainer. From that dimension (I believe XY/ORAS/SM occur in a different universe) he's the strongest to me.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:47:48 No.33077532 Report

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>>33077475
I still don't get why Hilbert has the Dragon of ideals. Isn't N's story him trying to make his ideal world?

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:51:47 No.33077563 Report

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>>33073995
It was never said that Red is the most powerful trainer. /vp/ is stupid when it comes to Pokemon, but denying events that happened in both GSC and HGSS is silly. In SM, Green states that he and Red were once champions in their hayday. Such a statement blatantly and clearly implies that he and Red are no longer champions as of SM.

Even if we accept /vp/'s stupid theory about the Kanto quest in GSC and HGSS being non canon, Red would have lost his title to the current champion of Kanto regardless. For all we know, there could have been two or three champions after Red. If we return to Kanto, Red's not going to be the champion.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:56:00 No.33077587 Report

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>>33077532

I think is because in the games N gives up his ideals, his old ideals, when Ghetsis comes out as the evil force of the game. N trusts in others to solve what he caused when he had those wrong ideas about both people and pokemon. Hilbert having Zekrom shows the trust that N placed in others about building a better world.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 00:59:03 No.33077605 Report

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>>33074009
Did you seriously put "canon" and "Kris" in the same sentence?

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 01:01:36 No.33077620 Report

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>>33077605
It's a meme. Not a very funny one, though.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 01:01:39 No.33077622 Report

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>>33077436
Nigga he's saying is the game "pokemon yellow" canon

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 06:19:30 No.33079435 Report

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>>33073984
No, every single region champion is stronger than him. He's just a protag and his biggest feat is beating his childhood friend (and currently his lover)

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 06:21:42 No.33079446 Report

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>>33079435
>his childhood friend (and currently his lover)
What did he mean by this?

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 06:28:09 No.33079482 Report

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>>33074789
You should have been able to plug your FR or LG cart into the DS and have the game load your last champion team into the game for use in the Mount Silver battle. Leaf would have appeared there if the Advanced cartridge read from used her as the player character.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jul 2017 08:10:02 No.33079857 Report

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>>33073984
No, the yet-to-battled Pokémon Master Satoshi is. In a future game, he'll be standing in a cave in the same mountain range area where the Sinjoh Ruins are (north of Kanto, south of Sinnoh), alone. He'll have only one Pokémon: A hacked Poliwrath that cannot be defeated.

And if you cheat to make it so you can glitch his Poliwrath's HP to 0, your save will be deleted and game console bricked.

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