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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 19:59:27 No.33102605 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33102716 >>33102838 >>33102899 >>33105895 >>33105975

>he isn't using the best special wall in competitive battles
Explain yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:05:09 No.33102644 Report

Quoted By: >>33102660 >>33102669 >>33102673 >>33102685 >>33105975

>Tyrogue used Brick Break!
>It's super effective!
>Regice fainted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:07:14 No.33102660 Report

Quoted By: >>33102669 >>33105975

>>33102644
252+ Atk Tyrogue Brick Break vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 168-200 (23.8 - 28.4%) -- 95.5% chance to 4HKO

252+ Atk Tyrogue Brick Break vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Regice: 128-152 (35.2 - 41.8%) -- 78% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:08:26 No.33102669 Report

Quoted By: >>33102695 >>33102856

>>33102644
>>33102660

A special wall that doesn't like physical hits. Wow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:08:57 No.33102673 Report

Quoted By: >>33102695 >>33102856

>>33102644
he said SPECIAL wall retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:10:11 No.33102685 Report

Quoted By: >>33102856 >>33105975

>>33102644
252+ Atk Tyrogue Brick Break vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 168-200 (23.8 - 28.4%) -- 95.5% chance to 4HKO

252+ Atk Tyrogue Brick Break vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Regice: 92-110 (25.3 - 30.3%) -- 0.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:11:13 No.33102695 Report

Quoted By: >>33102711 >>33105975

>>33102669
>>33102673
That's the point, twits. Other special walls can take a physical hit or two, this one dies to metaphorically everything with a physical attack due to its large expansion of weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:13:17 No.33102711 Report

Quoted By: >>33102723

>>33102695
You are the twit if you let your special wall take physical hits and don't just switch to a mixed tank like Torterra or something...

Damn /vp/ is bad at this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:13:40 No.33102716 Report

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>>33102605
Leliel outclasses her in every way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:14:42 No.33102723 Report

Quoted By: >>33102730 >>33105975

>>33102711
unironically using torterra

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:15:18 No.33102730 Report

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>>33102723
Why would you not use Torterra? Everyone knows it's the perfect counter to those pesky Mega Gengar.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:28:29 No.33102838 Report

Quoted By: >>33102849 >>33102903

>>33102605
>Best special wall
Ahem...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:29:37 No.33102849 Report

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>>33102838
>not a legendary
how can it even compete

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:31:01 No.33102856 Report

Quoted By: >>33102903 >>33105975

>>33102669
>>33102673
>>33102685
I wasn't being literal. The thing is, Regice might have good SpD, but it's Ice type. You know, the worst defensive type? I mean, the thing can be taken down by physical attacks without any Atk investment. It's also extremely slow and liable to end up being pure setup bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:31:49 No.33102862 Report

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>tfw no one screencapped the original thread so all these newfags don't know what OP is referencing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:32:30 No.33102867 Report

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https://yuki.la/vp/32548536#p32548754

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:33:51 No.33102876 Report

Quoted By: >>33102896 >>33105975

So does Blissey or Eviolite Chansey have better resistance against special attacks than the other? I assumed people use Eviolite Chansey because it can survive a single physical attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:35:42 No.33102896 Report

Quoted By: >>33102910 >>33102946

>>33102876
Chansey has better special bulk AND much better physical bulk.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:35:57 No.33102899 Report

Quoted By: >>33102915 >>33105975

>>33102605
And just how is Regice a better special wall than Lugia? Sure, Regice has more SpD, but Lugia has more HP, that nifty Multiscale ability, more resistances, less weaknesses, and access to the move Recover. How can Regice ever compete?

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:36:37 No.33102903 Report

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>>33102838
>non-Legendary

>>33102856
Yeah, but it's a LEGENDARY POKEMON you dense mong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:37:17 No.33102910 Report

Quoted By: >>33102978

>>33102896
Can I get stat graphs showing this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:37:54 No.33102915 Report

Quoted By: >>33102974

>>33102899
Well Regice isn't weak to Ice type moves which are very common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:40:48 No.33102946 Report

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>>33102896
...and no Leftovers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:43:41 No.33102974 Report

Quoted By: >>33105975

>>33102915
And Lugia isn't weak to Fire moves, which are just as common. And takes no damage from Ground moves, even more common. Lugia can safely come in on Calm Mind Landorus at +6 using earth Power. Let's see Regice do that?

>+6 252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Regice: 473-558 (129.9 - 153.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>Landorus Earth Power vs. Lugia: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time
Lugia doesn't even need to invest in SpD to tank that shit!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:44:42 No.33102978 Report

Quoted By: >>33103036

>>33102910
>252 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Chansey in Sun: 145-172 (20.5 - 24.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
>252 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Sun: 241-285 (33.7 - 39.9%) -- 30.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

>252+ Atk Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 160-190 (22.7 - 26.9%) -- 44.2% chance to 4HKO
>252+ Atk Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 220-259 (30.8 - 36.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
Blissey actually had slightly better phys bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:52:18 No.33103036 Report

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>>33102978
>Blissey actually had slightly better phys bulk.
Nevermind I'm drunk. Chansey has better phys bulk and special bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 20:52:30 No.33103038 Report

Quoted By: >>33103160 >>33103444

How can Chansey, Blissey or Lugia even compete?

>136+ SpA Choice Specs Regice Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Torterra: 396-468 (100.5 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 21:11:19 No.33103160 Report

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>>33103038
they can't senpai, they're simply outclasses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2017 21:44:46 No.33103444 Report

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>>33103038
>0 Atk Gigalith Stone Edge vs. 204 HP / 0 Def Regice: 278-330 (78.9 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery

>8 Atk Solrock Stone Edge vs. 204 HP / 0 Def Regice: 210-248 (59.6 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

>+2 252 SpA Life Orb Infernape Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 252 SpD Regice: 377-447 (103.8 - 123.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>252 SpA Heatran Fire Blast vs. 204 HP / 0 SpD Regice: 198-234 (56.2 - 66.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Regice just isn't as bulky as those other three. Honestly, if you want a wall, you'd be better off using Regirock in a sandstorm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2017 02:35:41 No.33105895 Report

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>>33102605
A cute.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2017 02:45:56 No.33105975 Report

Quoted By: >>33106243

>>33102605
>he's stuck in 2005

>>33102644
>>33102660
>>33102685
Profound autism

>>33102695
>>33102723
>>33102856
>>33102876
>>33102899
>>33102974
Shit posters who contributed nothing to the thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2017 03:18:07 No.33106243 Report

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>>33105975
Horrible post

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jul 2017 08:43:00 No.33107809 Report

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When will they learn that Ice type walls don't work

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