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The current state of the franchise

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 01:55:20 No.33146552 View View Reply Original Report

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Are you seriously gonna keep telling yourself that Pokemon didn't lose some of it's appeal in recent years?

What the fuck happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 01:56:59 No.33146569 Report

Quoted By: >>33149889

>>33146552
It did during gen 5 but it came back gen 6 and Pokémon go. They did a great job advertising sm too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 01:57:37 No.33146572 Report

Quoted By: >>33146596

>>33146552
Gamefreak began treating Pokemon like EA treats Call of Duty.
It turned about quantity over quality. But even then they can't do that properly if SM is any indication

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 01:59:12 No.33146584 Report

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I'm 20. I don't if quality or I'm getting older but definitely Pokemon. The hardcore fans are moving away. Casuals remain I guess

Pokemon twitter fans in 2013 it was massive but it's so small now. Sales remain the same. So good for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:00:00 No.33146591 Report

Quoted By: >>33146607 >>33146958

>>33146552
kiddification, casualization and an overall bad direction.

pokemon peaked at gen 4. gen 5 didnt bring much to the table but it retained most of its quality. gen 6 and 7 were a trainwreck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:00:26 No.33146596 Report

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>>33146572
Call of duty is Activision

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:00:57 No.33146598 Report

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>>33146552
if in the next gen my bros don't get any significant buffs or i dont find new bros that will at least tide me over competitively while i appreciate my old bros aesthetically then i wont buy the games anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:02:29 No.33146607 Report

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>>33146591
Something happens in gen 5. I think they got scared of reaction of the "reboot" the anime and movies took a huge drop and for a Pokemon game DS it sold 3 million less than diamond and pearl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:04:12 No.33146617 Report

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>>33146596
I thought that was just the Black ops series?

Either way my point still stands

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:05:34 No.33146626 Report

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:06:41 No.33146637 Report

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>>33146617
Last call of duty actually disappointment is sales. And then they went back to its roots with world war 2

Maybe a Pokemon game needs to flop

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:41:45 No.33146943 Report

Quoted By: >>33146955

3D ruined the franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:43:15 No.33146955 Report

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>>33146943
Or it exposed how Barebones Pokemon games really are. Sprites hid them. Made everything look bigger but you can only do sprites for so long

They need to take more development

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:43:40 No.33146958 Report

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>>33146591
Pokemon has always been a casual kiddy game. Always. If you had any trouble with the early games your a fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:44:01 No.33146964 Report

Quoted By: >>33146974 >>33146975

>>33146552
Not in recent years, no. Gen 4 was a major falloff, yes, but we've long since recovered from that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:45:34 No.33146974 Report

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>>33146964
>Gen 3 was a major falloff
fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:45:44 No.33146975 Report

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>>33146964
>Gen 4 was a major falloff
In popularity. It was the apex in quality though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:46:07 No.33146981 Report

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>>33146552
I blame gen V and it's lack of ribbons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:47:05 No.33146987 Report

Quoted By: >>33146998

you just grew up. the games have never been as good as they are now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:47:57 No.33146996 Report

Quoted By: >>33147019

>>33146974
I think this is actually a more accurate answer.

Pokemon was extremely unpolular in the United States between 2004-2006. That was a few years after PokeMania had ended (1998-2002). Normies grew out of it and picked on people who still liked it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:48:03 No.33146998 Report

Quoted By: >>33147006 >>33147037

>>33146987
This. I don't think there is a single fan base as wrapped up in nostalgia as pokemon. Its nuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:49:04 No.33147006 Report

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>>33146998
Yeah, it's baffling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:50:26 No.33147017 Report

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I find myself able to replay gen 1, 2, 4 and 5.

Im never touching gen 3, 6 and 7 ever again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:50:37 No.33147019 Report

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>>33146996
i don't think so I was born in 1996. Gold and sliver was irrelevant as kids. It was all about yugioh and beyblade

Hoenn rejuvenated it with kids Atleast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:52:34 No.33147037 Report

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>>33146998
Pokemon games are quality like other franchises. It relies on nostalgia for the sales and pull factor

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:52:59 No.33147041 Report

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>>33146552
I've been playing it for nearly 20 years now and I'm a 30 year old hyper cynical piece of shit. If I haven't turned on it yet, you guys are just being assholes. Plain and simple.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 02:54:39 No.33147061 Report

Quoted By: >>33147314 >>33150111 >>33151330

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 03:31:06 No.33147295 Report

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>>33147041
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I don't really get what these guys are on about most of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 03:34:22 No.33147314 Report

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>>33147061
That's exactly how society move towards. You compare anything 20 years ago to today aesthetically . Shit changes rpg. Society has changed for the better I think

Music, fashion etc it's different

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 10:58:53 No.33149245 Report

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>>33146552
gen six killed pokemon for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:06:18 No.33149265 Report

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>>33146552
It has, just like everything does.

OP's post us pointless yet again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:07:32 No.33149272 Report

Quoted By: >>33149277 >>33151486

>>33146552
Since gen 3, everything past gen 2 is garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:08:57 No.33149277 Report

Quoted By: >>33151341

>>33149272
>Implying Gen 2 isn't horrid by todays standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:11:47 No.33149285 Report

Quoted By: >>33149293

REMEMBER THE 90S

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:14:37 No.33149293 Report

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>>33149285
this isn't about the nineties, it's about the massive toll gen 6+7 took on the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:18:34 No.33149305 Report

Quoted By: >>33149317

>>33146552
Gen 5 is the lowest point competitively but was the high point of the series in terms of main story

Gen 6 is the low point story-wise but has the best competitive scene (outside of vgc 2016, that was a shitshow)

Gen 7 is the worst of both worlds. Competitively the Tapus ruin all fun and story wise it's dull as shit. Also they removed so many nice quality-of-life things from gen 6 and I have no idea why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:19:19 No.33149308 Report

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>>33146552
The grnwunning of XY and SM happened. Gamefuck values money over quality now, so they rush the games for holiday releases and spends more effort on creating Mythicals, event items, animu forms and gimmick selling points than the actual story, characters and content. Because "kids don't care about replayability".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:20:30 No.33149312 Report

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>>33146626
Sun and Moon's dex really is pathetic with all the waifubait it contains. Especially Salazzle and Tsareena.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:21:34 No.33149317 Report

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>>33149305
>best competitive scene

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 12:20:15 No.33149507 Report

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Platinum was the apex of the franchise. It was all downhill from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 14:00:56 No.33149889 Report

Quoted By: >>33149909 >>33149910

>>33146569
Naw, it lost a lot in gen 3 and even more in 4, but started to recover in 5 and 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 14:04:30 No.33149909 Report

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>>33149889
>double battles and abilities

>physical special split

>lost a lot

Every gen up until 5 brought a major in-battle change for the better, 5's main contribution was the tm change, which was a long time coming, while 6's main contribution, the fairy type, is... debatable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 14:04:43 No.33149910 Report

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>>33149889
Nah gen 5 lost a ton compared to gen 4. Black and white sold 3 million less than d/p

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 14:04:48 No.33149912 Report

Quoted By: >>33150202

>guise i hate pokemon so much lol
>why are you telling me to leave if i hate pokemon are you a nazi or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 14:40:08 No.33150111 Report

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>>33147061
I still find it hilarious that Green grew up to be a midget with thicc child bearing hips

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 14:53:06 No.33150202 Report

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>>33149912
You are so insecure

Saying the past games are shit doesn't mean he is saying. He hates Pokemon. You don't have to like everything

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Thoughtless Celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd Sat 29 Jul 2017 16:53:33 No.33151093 Report

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>>33146552
>What the fuck happened?
pokemon evolves to fit the society that surrounds us.
we can't ignore what arounds us and dig in our shells. thhe first to be influanced are major names like pokemon ofc, but if we turn blind eye for long all good things will be taken away.
drown in your blood
or live in their shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 16:57:36 No.33151129 Report

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I can't believe it's been 3 gens since we last got proper new evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 17:23:14 No.33151329 Report

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>>3314927
Considering the garbage post game we get now, it's a masterpiece, actually.

Gen 1 and two had an excuse, Gen 3+ doesn't. Especially not after Emerald, Platinum, and HG/SS.

And it's not even just that WE know they're more capable - they know too but are admittedly holding themselves back like fucking retards.

I don't generally wish violence on anyone but I really wish someone playing Go in their car would just run down Masuda and Ohmori, killing them instantly.

Though I'm not entirely sure after what they've done to the series that they don't deserve to suffer a bit, lol.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 17:23:16 No.33151330 Report

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>>33147061
>blue in 2016

figurine when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 17:24:40 No.33151341 Report

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>>33149277
Considering the garbage post game we get now, it's a masterpiece, actually.

Gen 1 and 2 had an excuse, Gen 3+ doesn't. Especially not after Emerald, Platinum, and HG/SS.

And it's not even just that WE know they're more capable from those games - they know they are too but are admittedly holding themselves back like fucking retards.

I don't generally wish violence on anyone but I really wish someone playing Go in their car would just run down Masuda and Ohmori, killing them instantly.

Though I'm not entirely sure after what they've done to the series that they don't deserve to suffer a bit, lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2017 17:38:48 No.33151486 Report

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>>33149272
I agree completely. Gen 3 was the turning point for Pokemon. They were no longer limited to Gameboy hardware, so it was their chance to push the franchise forward. Instead, they opted to recycle the ideas of the first two games, complete with overworld graphics that look like shit for a GBA game.

Imagine if gen 3 had dropped the gym and evil team shit instead of cementing it as the plot every game must follow.

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