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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 17:06:44 No.33167846 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33168153 >>33169695

So what's the status on how the GS VC release will affect the meta? What's gonna get a big boost from the curse TM?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 17:37:42 No.33168028 Report

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Lugia?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 17:42:16 No.33168055 Report

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Crabhammer Mew is about the only thing worth mentioning.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 17:43:59 No.33168069 Report

Quoted By: >>33168153

mind reader + fissure poliwrath

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 17:55:16 No.33168153 Report

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>>33168069
not worth it, considering articuno can do that already with sheer cold
>>33167846
Ho-oh and Lugia can be shiny and have their HA now

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 17:57:36 No.33168164 Report

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>>33168153
>inb4 none of the transferred mons get their hidden ability
>except the machamp line

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 19:56:01 No.33169129 Report

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>>33168153
>Inb4 they also don't fix the Transporter code so anything found Shiny in G/S isn't Shiny when transported.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 20:00:32 No.33169170 Report

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>>33169129
A relevant mon in GS is shiny so they'll probably do so.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 20:34:46 No.33169384 Report

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>>33169170

Maybe they'll be lazy about it and just use the current formula but do a separete check for shininess and so the odds of getting a shiny will go up overall.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 20:57:10 No.33169535 Report

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>>33169384
In order to make Gyarados pass you have to check if it was shiny in the original which might as well be used for all mons. So the odds of getting a shiny will be the same as vanilla GSC.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:03:58 No.33169571 Report

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>>33169129
>any shinies transferred over will have shit IVs
>just like the original

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:13:24 No.33169636 Report

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>>33169571

>Implying there's any conversion of D.V's to I.V's.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:14:44 No.33169646 Report

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>>33169571
All of them transferred are guaranteed 3, 31's like legends (save event Mew which is guaranteed 5) so that's actually pretty good.

That also makes it a 1 in 32 chance to get 4 and a 1 in 1024 chance to get 5. Not as terrible as it could be since in the wild that would vbe the rates seeing you get just 1 or 2, 31 IVs respectively.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:21:09 No.33169695 Report

Quoted By: >>33169842 >>33171412 >>33171449

>>33167846
It will be released, it will allow trades with the RBY virtual console, people will transfer their red gyarados into RBY, do the glitch and get a blue ditto, transfer it over, breed a mon with a ditto so it obtains half the shiny IVs and then breed the mon that came from that egg with either the blue ditto or another mon from that couple for an easy chance to get a shiny mon, people will abuse this to farm shinies like crazy

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:37:12 No.33169824 Report

Quoted By: >>33171397

>Typhlosion now has Submission
Is physical Typhlosion now a thing??????

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:39:39 No.33169842 Report

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>>33169695
Only gen 1 & 2 shinies, though.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:47:19 No.33169904 Report

Quoted By: >>33169916 >>33169954 >>33171468

>>33168055
How do you expect to get mew in GS VC

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:48:51 No.33169916 Report

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>>33169904
F8

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:51:34 No.33169944 Report

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>>33169571

Either way, we have hyper training. Any pokemon can go from the bottom to the top now. Thank god.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 21:53:06 No.33169954 Report

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>>33169904
Mew was distributed to the VC games officially in a few countries.

I guarantee you'll be able to move it up to G/S through the time machine. If they can get trading to work there's no reason why that wouldn't.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jul 2017 22:55:45 No.33170435 Report

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http://glitchcity.info/wiki/Celebi_trick

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:15:37 No.33171298 Report

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>>33169842
Some from Gen 4 as well.

We can also easily get Alolan Raichu, Exeggutor, and Cubone because of this.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:23:39 No.33171363 Report

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>>33170435

It'd get blocked like glitch Mews that weren't altered by ACE.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:29:21 No.33171397 Report

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>>33169824
Still outclassed by Emboar

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:30:27 No.33171406 Report

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>>33171363
Depends on if they do another event. You could "technically" have the same OT and ID as the event mon.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:31:12 No.33171412 Report

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>>33169695
Are Mews and Celebis obtained through glitch manipulation legal? I imagine not, yeah? It was something I wondered recently.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:32:23 No.33171426 Report

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>>33171363
>>33171412
Nvm I'm an idiot. Didn't bother to read the thread.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:35:12 No.33171449 Report

Quoted By: >>33171469 >>33171496

>>33169695
You can't breed a parent with its offspring in gen II, so you're stuck just breeding the Ditto with the same parent. Not to mention breeding in gen II is so slow and tedious it isn't even worth it. Especially given how stupidly easy egg RNG abuse is in SM. Only reason to shiny breed in GS is if you need the exclusive TM moves, otherwise it's a waste of time.

>inb4 exploiting a deliberately programmed rng is cheating but exploiting an unintentional glitch isn't

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:37:13 No.33171468 Report

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>>33169904
Are they allowing trading between RBY VC and GS VC? Because then it'd be easy enough to trade a Mew you glitched into RBY over to GS.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:37:17 No.33171469 Report

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>>33171449
Hatching eggs in SM sucks because there are no O-Powers or d-pad movement.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 01:42:41 No.33171496 Report

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>>33171449
I remember hearing this parent-offspring thing back in the day, but at this point I can't find anything online to confirm that or even any plausible way the game would be able to keep track of a parent/child relationship with the extremely limited storage space for Gen II. I don't think this is an issue that actually exists.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Aug 2017 06:07:42 No.33173099 Report

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>>33171496
http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/rby_gsc_stats#breeding
>the baby inherits certain DVs from the parent of the opposite gender, or Ditto if it is used.
>Defense: Always inherited from the relevant parent.
>Special: Inherited from the relevant parent 50% of the time. If it is not inherited, the DV generated is the parent's Special stat +-8 (minus if the parent's DV is between 8 and 15, and otherwise plus).

https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/master/engine/breeding/egg.asm
>If Defense DVs match and the lower 3 bits of the Special DVs match,
>avoid breeding

That's how the game does it, albeit at a 1/128 risk of a false positive. (Lower 3 bits matching = same remainder after division by 8.)

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