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ITT: We create Ice types that don't suck

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 22:27:47 No.33186267 View View Reply Original Report

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Type: Ice/Bug
Ability: Compound Eyes
Stats: 70/105/40/120/40/125
Moves: Blizzard, U-Turn, Quiver Dance, ???

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 22:31:01 No.33186296 Report

Quoted By: >>33189895 >>33191175

>>33186267
>Litten used Ember

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 22:45:22 No.33186396 Report

Quoted By: >>33186761 >>33186862

>>33186267
>Anybody used Priority!
I understand the Focus Sash niche, but at least give it some bulk so it isn't easy to be defeated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 22:46:58 No.33186409 Report

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>>33186267
I know you're trying to make it usable but the stats, movepool, and ability don't match it's awful design at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 22:48:02 No.33186417 Report

Quoted By: >>33186573 >>33186798 >>33189338 >>33190316

A fast special attacker with technician to make use of frost breath.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 22:58:00 No.33186517 Report

Quoted By: >>33186658

>>33186267
Type:ice
Stats 85/80/120/80/130/40
Ability matter change: swaps between water/ice/flying when using a attack of said type keeps type even when switched out. Freeze-dry/roost/scald/air slash/auroa veil/aqua jet/icicle crash/tail wind

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 22:59:30 No.33186533 Report

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Type: Ice/Fire
Ability: Magic Guard
BST: 535 (reasonable, could even be a starter)
Stats: 75/120/75/85/75/105
Signature move: an Ice-type Flare Blitz
Moves: Flare Blitz, "Ice Blitz," Ice Shard, Recover, Icicle Spear (multi-hit), Wild Charge, Earthquake, Stone Edge

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:04:43 No.33186573 Report

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>>33186417
>technician frost breath
i never knew how much i needed this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:10:49 No.33186617 Report

Quoted By: >>33186860

>>33186267

>ice/bug
>4x weak to smogon stonez

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:14:51 No.33186658 Report

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>>33186517
I was about to say just give it Protean but then I saw the speed stat and amazing defenses and now I realize why you made up that ability

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Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:21:39 No.33186751 Report

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>>33186267
Type: Ice/Fighting
Ability: Iron Fist
Stats: 100/115/95/30/120/40
Moves: Ice Hammer, Avalanche, Seismic Toss Dynamic Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:22:11 No.33186756 Report

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>>33186267
>This Speed meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:22:40 No.33186761 Report

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>>33186396
Pheromosa has less bulk and it's Uber. OP's bug will do just fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:26:19 No.33186798 Report

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>>33186417
Or one with Sniper. Sniper Frost Breath outdamages Technician Frost Breath slightly.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:31:34 No.33186842 Report

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Ice/Steel
Ability: a gun
Stats: 92/28/47/43/66/124
Move: Ice Ball, Gyro Ball, Rock Blast, Barrage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:33:22 No.33186860 Report

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>>33186617
just give it mountaineer xd

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Anonymous Wed 02 Aug 2017 23:33:31 No.33186862 Report

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>>33186396
*blocks your path*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 04:55:14 No.33188969 Report

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>>33186267
Is this design one of the few,
that all of vp thinks looks like shit?

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Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 04:59:14 No.33188997 Report

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>>33188969
Nah. Some contrarians like it. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

It would just be a lot better if it looked like pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 06:03:52 No.33189338 Report

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>>33186573
>>33186417
Type: Ice/Fighting
Ability: Technician
Stats: 70/109/50/110/60/101
Moves: Frost Breath, Storm throw, Vacuum Wave, Ice Shard, Icicle Spear, Force Palm, Rock Blast, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 06:14:24 No.33189379 Report

Quoted By: >>33189591

>>33186267
A reliable ice type would be forced to be a pseudo-llegendary to get acccess to a 600 BST
either a strong physical attacker with low speed, low special defense but with lots of HP & defense, so we could balance by giving it assault vest or a weak special sweeper with lots of speed, special attack & special defense and regular hp, but weak defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 06:30:24 No.33189433 Report

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>>33186267
If we're gonna do things hypothetically just change the type.
It's now SE against Fairy and resists Water and Normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 06:33:48 No.33189442 Report

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>>33188969
personally i think it's so dumb it warps right back around into unironically amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 06:57:05 No.33189530 Report

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Ice/Ghost Tuurngait
Ability: Snow Warning. HA: Cursed Body
60/95/60/125/40/125
Access to Blizzard, Freeze Dry, Moonblast, Shadow Ball, and Earth Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 07:17:12 No.33189591 Report

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>>33189379
The first has been done, and it sucks ass, so let's go for the second

A speedy special oriented pseudo-legendary ice type. What should it's secondary type be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 08:10:01 No.33189747 Report

Quoted By: >>33189789

>>33189591
let's see
>Ice/Fairy
weak x4 to Steel
>Ice/Steel
weak x4 to Fire
>Ice/Dragon
neutral damage from Ice, neutral damage from fire, resistant to water, weak to rock, earth, unless it has levitate, weakness to fairy & steel, highly resistant to grass, effective against flying pokemon and other dragons, resistant to electric type, neutral damage from ghost, bug, dark & psychic, weak to fighting too
How do we fix Ice? it has many disadvantages, but if this pseudo-legendary ice-type has access to moves like Earth Power & Flash Cannon it could counter most of it's weaknesses, I don't expect it to have access to fire blast/flamethrower, but with moves like Earth Power & Flash Cannon it could cover Rock, Fairy & Steel types

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 08:23:23 No.33189789 Report

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>>33189747
Take the weavile route, don't try to cover weaknesses, just make sure it's other type adds to it's offensive presence

Ice/Electric is known for being good coverage but giving it freeze dry may make that unnecessary, Ice/Ground kills three of the four types that hit ice super effectively but it's already been done very well, Ice/Fighting covers two weaknesses and hasn't been done well at all, Ice/Water is the best defensive ice type combo but there's a bajillion water types already...

I'd vote ice/fighting myself, make it a shaolin monk kind of pokemon, first stage is an initiate, second stage an expert, final stage a grandmaster

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 08:26:44 No.33189802 Report

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Ice/Rock
Technechion
Gets accelrock and ice shard
80/120/60/120/60/120

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 08:41:24 No.33189876 Report

Quoted By: >>33189906

I've had an idea of an Ice/Fighting wolf/husky/malamute/wolf-related monochromatic canine creature for a while that I've posted a couple of times here, but I've never been able to come up with a nice statspread for it. It'd be like Lycanroc Midday - a fast physical attacker, but preferably with a slightly higher BST.

Its abilities would be Tough Claws or Fur Coat, and it'd have access to moves like Ice Shard, Icicle Crash, Bite, Crunch and the elemental fangs; Aerial Ace, some Fighting-type move that fits a fucking quadruped I don't know, and maybe Play Rough because that's a thing with a number of other dogmons.

Good idea, shit idea or at least better than Crabominable idea? What else could it be stuck with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 08:45:34 No.33189895 Report

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>>33186296
Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 08:47:23 No.33189906 Report

Quoted By: >>33190064

>>33189876
The only contact moves you've given it are non-STAB, it would have the same problem with tough claws that mega-Aerodactyl has

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 08:48:33 No.33189913 Report

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>>33188997
>>33188969
I almost like it's design, this fan art blows it out of the water though!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 09:16:24 No.33190064 Report

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>>33189906
There's the elemental fangs, at least. Would Avalanche, Brick Break, Close Combat, Ice Ball, Low Sweep and Reversal suit that thing? I hadn't really thought of those while making the preliminary list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 09:21:08 No.33190088 Report

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i proposed a fast special ice/bug pseudo legend before since it would be good offensively and have a double weakness like all the other ones (fuck you goodra)

the stabs and stats would be good enough to give it a freebie ability that makes it resist some damage from sneaky pebbles or something

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Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 09:56:08 No.33190316 Report

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>>33186417
>Technician boosted guaranteed stab crit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 10:09:24 No.33190407 Report

Quoted By: >>33191093

>>33186267
>ice pheromosa

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 11:51:04 No.33191022 Report

Quoted By: >>33191128 >>33194908 >>33195939

>>33188997
>Not realising based yeti crab's design, mostly its teeth and belly pattern, are meant to resemble a more traditional yeti's design to warn off predators during a blizzard.

Stay mad /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 12:07:25 No.33191093 Report

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>>33190407
>not wanting ice pheromosa

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 12:16:29 No.33191128 Report

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>>33191022
I understand it, but it's bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 12:23:52 No.33191175 Report

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>>33186296
Could litten out speed it's U-turn?
The ice bug combo would have to be faster than this wierd gen 7 thing that no one uses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 17:32:36 No.33193008 Report

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>>33188969
i like its design but i'm mad it came after crabrawler

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Aug 2017 21:57:41 No.33194908 Report

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>>33191022
Doesn't change the fact it looks like a Yokai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2017 00:36:23 No.33195939 Report

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>>33191022
good concept =/= good design

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