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I think I know what the walking and running pokemon is for

Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 01:35:07 No.33277097 View View Reply Original Report

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I was watching Pokémon battle revolution videos.

The pokemon when using physical attack run and walk to oppentents

I think switch this will happen. Creatures inc made pokemon models for both games.

Also why shiny and megas have the walking and running animation too

https://youtu.be/N_knmNJIoNk

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 01:37:42 No.33277120 Report

Quoted By: >>33277138

They're there because the Creatures guys had nothing better to do

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 01:39:51 No.33277138 Report

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>>33277120
Whats GF doing that's so important.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 01:40:57 No.33277147 Report

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>>33277097
holy shit, you could be right with that, would be so awesome!

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 01:45:27 No.33277168 Report

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Bump.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 01:46:37 No.33277178 Report

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>>33277097
Or it can be for following Pokemon. I mean we can have both but it's definitely for following Pokemon, considering that the there walking and running animations, and battle revolution uses only running animations.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 01:50:28 No.33277205 Report

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Also if that true. Than battles will have huge background and space like Colosseum or pbr

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 01:52:17 No.33277215 Report

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>>33277178
There are walking moves too

Why they put it for megas if its only for following Pokémon. Its for battles

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 01:53:37 No.33277222 Report

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>>33277097
It was probably for future utility. If they want to have cutscenes with walking Pokémon in the future, they can just use those animations. It's probably why they made the models so high-poly, too.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:10:03 No.33277325 Report

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>>33277205
holy shit PBR looks so S-tier compared to that 3ds shit and it's so old, please game freak don't fuck this up and don't give us those terrible 3ds models where a clefable has the same size as a snorlax and wailord looks like a tiny penis.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:11:46 No.33277339 Report

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>>33277215
I'm saying it's for both. Do you really think they would animate all those Pokemon then be like

>well these will only be for battles and nothing else. Even though we can make these Pokemon fallow the trainer

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:13:57 No.33277353 Report

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>>33277215
Maybe if the Pokémon is holding a Mega stone they will appear as a Mega in the overworld. Who knows?

All I know is that the animations seemed like they were more suited for transportation than battle.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:14:24 No.33277356 Report

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>>33277325
>don't give us those terrible 3ds models
they
will
never
change
the
models

why are you so fucking retarded, we have known since fucking 2013 that those models are future proof, and we also know that gamefreak are lazy pieces of shit
the models wont be changed, give up

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:15:02 No.33277359 Report

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>>33277325
Creatures inc made both Pokémon models

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:15:25 No.33277364 Report

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>>33277178
or both

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:16:54 No.33277374 Report

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>>33277356
The same people who made the PBR models are same ones who made the 3ds game models dude

The pbr actually has texture

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:17:40 No.33277379 Report

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>>33277356
I think they mean the sizes

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:21:11 No.33277402 Report

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>>33277356
>What are tretta models

you are a retarded piece of faggot, if you really believe they will use the same models and not even resize them (give them their actually sizes) then you are just braindead

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:23:19 No.33277414 Report

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>>33277356
kek, you are an idiot.
https://youtu.be/etr4fSLC8bc?t=61

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:24:23 No.33277416 Report

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>>33277402
Well the models themselves have their actual sizes and are scaled down/up by the game so yeah they won't resize the models.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:27:24 No.33277435 Report

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>>33277414
>Zygarde looks like a ekans in size while it is 5m high.

why the fuck are they doing this?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:29:23 No.33277447 Report

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>>33277416
>MFW the models will trash like in pokemon go
>MFW Wailord will still be a small piece of shit
>MFW flying pokemon still just glide midair

comeon, this will not happen...please?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:33:18 No.33277475 Report

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>>33277414

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:36:41 No.33277505 Report

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>>33277356
>since fucking 2013
they've changed Glameow since thentho

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:38:34 No.33277522 Report

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>>33277356
>the models are future proof
kek they don't, they made them so bad because the 3ds can't handle shit, check the japanese arcade games, they will probably use them instead, and they are awesome.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:38:36 No.33277523 Report

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>>33277138
programming the games and modeling environments and characters. though they also outsource environment modeling ever since ORAS

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:38:42 No.33277525 Report

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>>33277447
Wailord will probably not be small, because the new games will likely not scale the model down for small screen size.

Expect most flying Pokemon to continue to glide in battle. Xatu is the only one I would see not doing that.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:39:36 No.33277534 Report

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>>33277475
why does this look so right in size while it looks retarded in the video, isn't it the same game?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:40:59 No.33277552 Report

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>>33277525
sky battles and soaring would huge reason for it. would love to see soaring back though

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:41:28 No.33277557 Report

Quoted By: >>33277615 >>33278310 >>33280288

>>33277534
holy shit check this

https://youtu.be/qVE9Vz9q45g?t=588

it looks so beautiful, I wanna cry! starts at 9:48

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 02:49:00 No.33277615 Report

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>>33277557
even Bulbasaur and Turtwig have a size difference, damn and it looks soooo good

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 03:04:22 No.33277687 Report

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These games look good
https://youtu.be/CNleWb-kb-A

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 05:12:20 No.33278245 Report

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>>33277353
that sounds dumb as hell

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 05:18:58 No.33278285 Report

Quoted By: >>33278300

I will probably get BTFO but I still think USUM will have following pokemon. They still haven't shown us footage of the overworld after the protag has his own Pokémon. The only footage we've seen is presumably the protag before getting a starter. Prepared to be in a BTFO thread

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 05:22:31 No.33278300 Report

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>>33278285
get ready to be BTFO than

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 05:23:46 No.33278305 Report

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>>33278300
As should you anon

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 05:24:37 No.33278310 Report

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>>33277557

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 05:25:58 No.33278320 Report

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>>33277097
>tfw PBR didn't have destructible environments

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 05:28:19 No.33278334 Report

Quoted By: >>33279948

>>33278300
but difference i wont be disspointed if i do get btfo. you honestly there gonna add walking versions in 3rd version. the 3ds would expolde with those models and they even did it for mega pokemon

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 06:02:29 No.33278484 Report

Quoted By: >>33278522 >>33280093

How do you guys find this information?
How do we know Creatures Inc made the models? I'm very curious how you guys know all this.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 06:12:56 No.33278522 Report

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>>33278484
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/10/heres-how-game-freak-designs-pokemon-creatures.aspx

creatures making models are old news

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 13:57:56 No.33279948 Report

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>>33278334
You have got to be joking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 14:06:51 No.33279986 Report

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>>33277097
The big problem with this is the speed with which it makes battles run
The animations of a turn in PBR take at least twice as long as an equivalent turn in Gen 6/7.
You might think "I don't care, I prefer it" but after you take thirty minutes to even get past the first route because of the animation times, I promise you will turn the animations off.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 14:23:18 No.33280046 Report

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could be for z moves too so that breakneck blitz doesn't look so silly.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 14:29:54 No.33280083 Report

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>>33277097
>people thought pbr was bad
Still impresses me when people say this since:
>it was the first pokemon game with actual online
>the best trainer customization in the series down to an avatar,the fucking trainer card, and even fucking battle quotes
>different backgrounds for you to fight in
>meanifgul challenges similar to a battle frontier

But no it sucks because no minigames.

People are fucking retarded

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 14:32:01 No.33280093 Report

Quoted By: >>33280265 >>33280297 >>33280380 >>33280447

>>33278484
Creatures didn't do shit. All Creatures did was get to always profit off of the franchise by holding some of its copyright because they financed the latter half of Red and Green's development when Game Freak ran out of the money Nintendo gave them. (Mind you, Creatures is a subsidiary of Nintendo anyways, so...)

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 14:33:18 No.33280096 Report

Quoted By: >>33280163

>Don't get your expetations too high up
Stop being retard switchfaggots

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 14:50:19 No.33280163 Report

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>>33280096
I don't care about gameplay.
I care about new Pokémon in the game.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:06:21 No.33280265 Report

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>>33280093
are you sure ?
http://www.creatures.co.jp/

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:11:22 No.33280288 Report

Quoted By: >>33280324 >>33280505

I would like to mention something as a person who has developed for Game Freak before during the early 3DS era and also another game no one's mentioned in this thread.
Some of the models in Tretta are actually ported from PBR and, get this, Pokedex Pro. Remember that? Anyways, Gardevoir has the same idle animation, as does Charmander in the video on >>33277557
Only a select few models from Gen 6 and 7 are ported over from the games they came from. To clarify, most Pokemon have about 8000 to almost 12000 polygons. For comparison, Lightning from Final Fantasy XIII has over 8000 total polygons, and Alan Wake's character model has over 13000. Some of them are touched up, and yes, they are future proof. That doesn't mean, however, that they can't or wont be scaled up. That also doesn't mean it will happen either.
I'm not leaking anything to you guys so don't ask.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:12:55 No.33280297 Report

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>>33280093
http://www.creatures.co.jp/products/

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:16:50 No.33280324 Report

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>>33280288
To add onto this: Some of these models are changed over time. Some are REALLY subtle and some require a program or a tool to do a polycount to really make a difference. Some Pokemon get small changes to their model with just a few polygons here and there, but some get changes that remove them as well.

While I do love PBR and also the models there, I would actually be very glad to see the walking and running animations being used for attacking an enemy, like how it was in those games. It felt much more dynamic, and it added to the mysticism of seeing creatures like this battling on a bigger screen than it did with static and flat colors on a screen. It'd explain the various forms that would go away after battle or certain points (Zen Mode, Mega Evolving, etc.) However, I REALLY hope that just like PBR there are a lot more animations for attacking. It bugs me when a Pokemon punches with a kicking move.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:18:29 No.33280331 Report

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>>33277097
oh vp i find something interesting on the creatures page

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:22:14 No.33280352 Report

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>>33280324
To give the best example, use a Machoke in the 3D games that are on home consoles with Low Kick and Karate Chop (or just any kicking moves and anything else that makes contact)
Machoke does a drop kick with Low Kick which is fucking cool. And when it needs to use its arms? It uses them. Blaziken does a cartwheel flip to use moves such as Blaze Kick, and uses its arms to use moves like Sky Uppercut. And the animations for the Pokemon in XY/SM? Pretty lackluster by comparison. People say 3D didn't do justice for a lot of Pokemon. No. Game Freak didn't do Justice to 3D.
Though I will admit Pidgeot's idle animation looks really fucking stupid.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:28:12 No.33280380 Report

Quoted By: >>33280447

>>33280093
From what I understand, they make Spinoffs as well as the majority of merchandise, TCG, anime etc.

In general, Game Freak make new Pokémon and the main series games, Nintendo do a few licensing things and spinoffs, Creatures do the bulk of merchandise.
TPCI themselves (which are a company joint owned by the three) have very, very few employees and are basically just for marketing and distribution (they organise the competitive circuit and a bunch of other advertising schemes)

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:39:08 No.33280447 Report

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>>33280380
>>33280093
https://cgworld.jp/interview/gamefreak-201707.html even gamefreak said. creatures inc make the pokemon models

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:48:36 No.33280505 Report

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>>33280288
Can you tell us a bit more about your role or if you know anything about the franchises future?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:51:17 No.33280521 Report

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mmm

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:52:36 No.33280526 Report

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>>33280521
Is this Game Freak?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:54:39 No.33280537 Report

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>>33280526
creatures

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:58:22 No.33280557 Report

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>>33280537
Awesome! Is there anything you can share with us at all? Any information for example?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 15:58:37 No.33280559 Report

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>people still think the animations will allow for following pokemon

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 16:09:47 No.33280625 Report

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>>33280557
creatures inc interview last month

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 16:11:21 No.33280636 Report

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 16:23:45 No.33280704 Report

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Creatures made the gale models

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 16:31:01 No.33280753 Report

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>>33280704
surpised they did pokken also. very impressive

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 17:29:42 No.33281241 Report

Quoted By: >>33281531

>>33280559
People think they did all that work for a shitty pokemon snap feature which only includes a handful of mons

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 17:50:01 No.33281375 Report

Quoted By: >>33281531

>>33280559
If they made those animations for Snap 1 1/2 or whatever, they wouldn't bother to make them for stuff like Megas and legendaries, right?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 18:14:55 No.33281531 Report

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>>33281241
wait till USUM when the construction everyone thinks are gyms turn out to really be decorative stages for you to snap shots of your own pokemon.

>>33281375
if it were for following why would they bother to make them for megas if you can't have them outside battle?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 18:46:28 No.33281792 Report

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>>33281531
>if it were for following why would they bother to make them for megas if you can't have them outside battle?
Read the op

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 18:46:41 No.33281795 Report

Quoted By: >>33281814 >>33281958

>>33281531
You're a fucking idiot if you think GF would would make 2 animations for every single fucking Pokemon, including alt forms and mega evolutions, and had no intention to do following Pokemon. It's entirely possible that you could just select to Mega Evolve your Pokemon outside of battle in the team status menu. It's not that hard to imagine how it would work.
I don't think following Pokemon will be in USUM though, I see it being the main draw for Pokemon Switch.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 18:49:12 No.33281814 Report

Quoted By: >>33281866

>>33281795
No it's clear from the op. Battle animation much easier

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 18:54:09 No.33281866 Report

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>>33281814
Why not both?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 19:00:08 No.33281936 Report

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>>33281792
read the comment you replied to

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 19:02:47 No.33281958 Report

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>>33281795
you're delusional.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Aug 2017 19:22:35 No.33282075 Report

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>>33277435
the issue I have with it is that Charmander is half its height when it's 61cm tall

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>>33281531
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