/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #33326827

[22 / 6 / ?]

43KiB, 360x262, guzzlord.jpg

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:28:37 No.33326827 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33326845 >>33326853 >>33326951 >>33326972 >>33327022 >>33327363 >>33327497

>king of the ultra-beasts
>low-tier even in PU

why? how?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1495679286397.png, 751KiB, 1046x716

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:29:38 No.33326839 Report

Quoted By: >>33326856

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:30:17 No.33326844 Report

Quoted By:

Wait for his Necrozma fusion in USM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:30:22 No.33326845 Report

Quoted By:

>>33326827

Simply put, Guzzlord's stats are a mess.

It has high HP, but piss poor defenses negate it.

It's offenses are also mediocre.

Basically, it has a great typing, but horribly distributed stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:31:11 No.33326853 Report

Quoted By:

>>33326827
Shit stat distribution and typing.
It doesn't hit hard as a physical attack
It can't tank much despite its massive HP
No recover
Slow
Gets 2HKOd at best by any usable Fairy move

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1502326028821.png, 2MiB, 1200x800

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:31:26 No.33326855 Report

Quoted By: >>33326972

pixie dust

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:31:29 No.33326856 Report

Quoted By: >>33326867

>>33326839
fuck x4 weakness
need to be removed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:32:21 No.33326867 Report

Quoted By: >>33326877

>>33326856

Fairy has fuck all to do with why Guzzlord is shit.

It's because of its stats, nothing more.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO giphy (3).gif, 2MiB, 500x310

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:33:52 No.33326877 Report

Quoted By: >>33326907

>>33326867
>implying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:35:59 No.33326907 Report

Quoted By: >>33326985 >>33326997

>>33326877

He's right though, Fairy is a shit offensive type, there's a reason why Tapu Koko doesn't run Fairy STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:39:14 No.33326951 Report

Quoted By: >>33327523

>>33326827
Redditors will spout "le flambebe used le draining kiss" but that's not what makes Guzzlors shit. Dragon/Dark is great offensive typing and is decent defensively.
Guzzlord's main problem is it's stat distribution. It's defenses are too low to be a wall, it's offenses are too low to wallbreak, it's speed tier is shit, and to top it off it has no recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:41:03 No.33326972 Report

Quoted By:

>>33326855
I want Mega Eeveelutions bad

>>33326827
I hope all the Ultra Beasts are basically the shit mons of their world. Itd be funny as shit if Guzzlord was like a ratata of their world

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:42:42 No.33326985 Report

Quoted By: >>33327026

>>33326907
Because...koko lacks play rough and uses dazzling gleam?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1480282877738.png, 16KiB, 625x626

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:43:39 No.33326997 Report

Quoted By:

>>33326907
>fairy is a shit offensive type

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:43:49 No.33326998 Report

Quoted By:

>Horrible defenses mitigate it's amazing HP
>Its resistances can't make up for the awful Fighting, Ice, and double Fairy weaknesses
>Too slow to outpace other Dragon types
>Offenses aren't anything to write home about
>No reliable recovery
Gee, I wonder why, and this is coming from someone whose favorite Dark type is Guzzlord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:46:07 No.33327022 Report

Quoted By:

>>33326827
>king of the ultra-beasts
Where do people keep getting this from? It's rarer than the other ultra beasts and the hardest to catch, sure, but it's not the strongest ot implied to be any kind of leader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 21:46:16 No.33327026 Report

Quoted By: >>33327573

>>33326985
>koko lacks play rough

Koko and Bulu wouldn't use Play Rough even if they could learn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 22:20:37 No.33327363 Report

Quoted By:

>>33326827
it's actually pretty good in NU, you ignoramus. Checks delphox and other fire types not named emboar.
But yeah, it has no right to be as bad as it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 22:30:58 No.33327497 Report

Quoted By:

>>33326827
>has high hp but no reliable recovery, which isn't so good when you're walking around with a 4x weakness.
>has a great physical and special movepool but 100 offenses just don't cut it anymore without a boosting move
>dark/dragon is a very mixed bag defensively. It resists things like fire, dark and ghost, but its weak to other common offensive typings like ice, fighting, and fairy. This refers back to reliable recovery. It has rest but with its common weakneses, it just doesn't have much opportunity to "waste" 2 turns like that.
It has a lot of things, but sadly just doesn't do any of them well at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 22:33:25 No.33327523 Report

Quoted By:

>>33326951
>Redditors
When will 4chan stop shifting every bad thing they ever do on le reddit bogeyman? The "shitmon used 4x SE move" is purely a 4chan thing.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1502841946086.jpg, 37KiB, 562x600

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 22:38:18 No.33327573 Report

Quoted By: >>33327845

>>33327026
>bulu wouldn't use play rough

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2017 23:10:46 No.33327845 Report

Quoted By:

>>33327573
Bulu certainly wouldn't. Koko might.
Bulu's Grassy Terrain boosted Wood Hammers hit as hard as a Super Effective Play Rough would. The only relevant Dragon in OU that'd actually take more damage from Play Rough than Wood Hammer and isn't weak to Stone Edge is Latios, who still dies to an unboosted Bloom Doom in Grassy Terrain.

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches