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Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:09:05 No.33388599 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33388615 >>33388628 >>33388815

What does /vp/ thinks of my zigzagoon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:11:09 No.33388615 Report

Quoted By: >>33388623 >>33388678

>>33388599
>defence
>return over extreme speed
It's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:12:31 No.33388623 Report

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>>33388615
but anon return is faster and what about if it gets hit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:12:49 No.33388628 Report

Quoted By: >>33388678

>>33388599
>Salac
>252 def

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:17:36 No.33388643 Report

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decent no hacks required set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:23:29 No.33388678 Report

Quoted By: >>33388780 >>33388784

>>33388615
you chose to be glass canon with weak priority move
i think salac berry that activates as soon as drum belly because glutony is fast enough. the def is to survive enemy priority, return is stronger.

>>33388628
got a better gluttony set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:40:33 No.33388770 Report

Quoted By: >>33389046

Not that anyone cares but the legality/legitimacy of Extremespeed Zigzagoon is actually very much in question.

For event Pokemon in that era, people only really had second-hand sources of what moves/nature/etc. Pokemon got. Same goes for Wish Chansey.

This handwritten, unverified document is legitimately the only reason simulators allows those Pokemon, along with the word of mouth of people who claim that it's true.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/925601-pokemon-diamond-version/faqs/48598

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:42:09 No.33388780 Report

Quoted By: >>33388814 >>33388880

>>33388678
252+ Atk extreme speed hits harder than the 4 atk Return, and it has a +2 priority so you don't need speed

And you can't sweep with 50% HP, no recovery, that bulk and 299 speed

Sitrus+Pickup / Figy+Gluttony sets are better imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:42:58 No.33388784 Report

Quoted By: >>33388855

>>33388678
http://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/linoone/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:46:55 No.33388800 Report

Quoted By: >>33388814

You need an even HP stat for the berry to activate after using Belly Drum. The last 4 evs always go in HP for 298 HP which is cut into half to 149 which is exactly 50%, activating the berry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:47:17 No.33388803 Report

Quoted By: >>33388814

But that is a Linoone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:49:31 No.33388814 Report

Quoted By: >>33388935

>>33388780
fanfact: 299 speed after salac is 448 speed.

>>33388803
took you guys long enough.

>>33388800
good to know

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Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:50:00 No.33388815 Report

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>>33388599
get out versify

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 14:58:04 No.33388855 Report

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>>33388784
switch seed bomb with dig.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:04:51 No.33388880 Report

Quoted By: >>33389123

>>33388780
at +6atk, return is strong enough.
but yeah, lack of recovery hurts. i originally wanted to do grumpig with drain punch, but to my woe grumpig doesn't get belly drum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:15:38 No.33388935 Report

Quoted By: >>33389134

>>33388814
>fanfact: 299 speed after salac is 448 speed.

Watch out for choice scarf and some priority users (you don't have this problem with extreme speed)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:32:19 No.33389046 Report

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>>33388770
Actually, you get one in Pokémon Box for the GCN

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:38:11 No.33389077 Report

Quoted By: >>33389105

>return
kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:41:28 No.33389105 Report

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>>33389077
how rude!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:45:52 No.33389123 Report

Quoted By: >>33389129 >>33389134

>>33388880
>grumpig with drain punch
Hypno gets Drain Punch along with Belly Drum, use Hypno instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:47:07 No.33389129 Report

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>>33389123
but Hypno rapes little kids

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:48:03 No.33389134 Report

Quoted By: >>33389164 >>33389173 >>33389207

>>33388935
>linoone is the fastest priority user
not really.

>>33389123
hypno doesn't have gluttony, sadly. i mean, sitrus berry is always an option but...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:49:39 No.33389140 Report

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what about trick room slowbro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:54:08 No.33389164 Report

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>>33389134
Extremespeed is +2. You're faster than everything except Fake Out.

50% Berry + Gluttony + ESpeed is always better than this garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 15:55:12 No.33389173 Report

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>>33389134
>>linoone is the fastest priority user
>not really
its the only relevant extreme speed user

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Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 16:00:02 No.33389207 Report

Quoted By: >>33389220

>>33389134
Almost.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 16:02:18 No.33389220 Report

Quoted By: >>33389331

>>33389207
>max speed of the pokemon that learn e-speed is 115

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Aug 2017 16:25:28 No.33389331 Report

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>>33389220
that image doesnt show deoxys speed

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