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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:30:40 No.33405831 View View Reply Original Report

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ITT: Pokemons destined to be stuck forever in BL hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:34:32 No.33405852 Report

Quoted By: >>33405862 >>33405937 >>33406443 >>33406793

What makes it too good for UU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:35:06 No.33405857 Report

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nah, staraptor will get a mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:36:03 No.33405862 Report

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>>33405831
I dont care, I love my bro anyways

>>33405852
Intimidate plus Brave Bird and Close Combat is my guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:37:16 No.33405873 Report

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>>33405831
>tfw best birb iterally at 1 point in speed to be in OU

Why live

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:39:04 No.33405885 Report

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>>33405831
Togekiss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:45:03 No.33405937 Report

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>>33405852
Reckless plus 2 120 base power STAB moves which are boosted by it as well as a decent speed tier for a wall breaker and a scarfer

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:45:54 No.33405946 Report

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>>33405862
No, it just shits on anything remotely defensive thanks to Reckless and Brave Bird with Close Combat for in case the opponent tries to send in a Rock or Steel type. Even resisted, Reckless Boosted Choice band Brave birds hit like a truck and almost nothing can switch in on those.

I see no real problem there, however. defensive strategy is for nerds.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:50:13 No.33405980 Report

Quoted By: >>33406027

It sadly needs more special attack and coverage. Its abilities aren't the best either...
How would you fix it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:51:34 No.33405996 Report

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>>33405946
>banded staraptor invalidating balance and bulky offense is fine
>imfuckingplying scarf staraptor doesn't eat offense for breakfast
you're pretty retarded tbqh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 16:54:16 No.33406027 Report

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>>33405980
give back its FUCKING PROBOSCIS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 17:46:13 No.33406443 Report

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>>33405831
At least it's always too awesome for UU
>>33405852
Skarmory/Celesteela is OU

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 17:52:01 No.33406468 Report

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As long as bulu and koko exist, breloom will never be good again. At least it had a good run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:41:39 No.33406768 Report

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>>33406468
Will poison jab save it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:43:27 No.33406782 Report

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>>33406468
THE TAPUS NEED TO BE BUFFED INTO UBERS JESUS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:45:32 No.33406793 Report

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>>33405852
Band invalidates defensive teams while still having a high enough speed tier to threaten offense. Scarf invalidates offensive teams while still having enough power to threaten defensive teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:48:37 No.33406806 Report

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>>33406468
tfw u cant even destroy offense with sash spore anymore because of koko

tfw u cant even destroy balance anymore with lo sd because of bulu

tfw u cant even pwn stall anymore with sd pheal because sab is back

;___;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:51:52 No.33406824 Report

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>>33406782
The Tapus are on every team. Every single team. They are centralizing the meta and need to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:54:21 No.33406840 Report

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>>33405831
It won't. Power Creep is getting worse with every gen. It will find itself in UU one of these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:56:31 No.33406857 Report

Quoted By: >>33408152

>>33406824
t. doesn't understand OU beyond shitposting about it here
magearna is way worse than any of the tapus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:56:32 No.33406858 Report

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>>33406840
That's what they said in Gen 5, then Gen 6, then Gen 7.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:04:40 No.33406929 Report

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>>33406840
Unless skarmory, lando-t, and celesteela somehow find their way into UU or gen 8 introduces several good but not too good flying/normal/fighting resists, I really doubt it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 20:58:53 No.33407636 Report

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>>33406768
>+2 252 Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tapu Bulu in Grassy Terrain: 312-369 (111 - 131.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 21:00:13 No.33407660 Report

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>>33405831
I still can't believe it's not UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 21:04:54 No.33407693 Report

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>>33407636
This calc is irrelevant; you may as well post groudon OHKOing primal groudon with specs earth power or something. Bulu isn't stopping breloom from rising by beating it, it's stopping breloom from rising because it brutally outclasses it. Two of the three things breloom had going for it (fighting type priority + sleep) are bad right now. Bulu trades those for great longevity, grassy terrain, better typing, z moves (breloom doesn't use them because technician), etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 21:58:30 No.33408050 Report

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>>33406782
>>33406824
Never ever boys. Terrains are here to stay and I for one welcome it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:06:24 No.33408114 Report

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>>33407660
>Gliscor, Mamoswine, Scizor and Starmie are all UU

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:07:27 No.33408124 Report

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>>Venomoth

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:10:17 No.33408145 Report

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>>33405831
As long as it's not the best pokemon ever I don't care about Edgeraptor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:11:26 No.33408152 Report

Quoted By: >>33409255 >>33409295

>>33406857
>magearna

well a lot of that would be solved if GF got off their arses and gave Magnezone friggin overheat already

and give it to all the other poor electric types without coverage as well, damn move fits thematically already

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:12:53 No.33408163 Report

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>>33406027
woah there, we're trying to help it a bit, not send it to ubers

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:13:06 No.33408168 Report

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:15:24 No.33408183 Report

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>>33408114
Starmie was UU last gen until grenigger got banned, so no surprises there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:15:45 No.33408190 Report

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>>33406824
You're fresh out of League of Legends right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:18:43 No.33408210 Report

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>>33408183
I wonder how we'd get starmie back into OU

maybe regenerator + volt switch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:20:51 No.33408230 Report

Quoted By: >>33408255

>>33408210
Remove Greninja.
Starmie needs way too many buffs to contend with Greninja for an offensive water type slot.
In fact you could probably give free reign to someone from /vp/ to make a ridiculous mega and it wouldn't be far off to how many buffs it needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:24:11 No.33408255 Report

Quoted By: >>33409650

>>33408230
which is why I wasn't going to directly bring it in competition with greninja

regenerator + volt switch would give it a useful niche in addition to it's various other qualities that could propel it to OU (BL at the very least)
bonus points for both of those having a good justification, in fact it's a bloody crime the STARFISH pokemon doesn't have regenerator yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 00:44:46 No.33409255 Report

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>>33408152
All that would do is make the fightium Z set more popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 00:50:37 No.33409295 Report

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>>33408152
Fuck Magearna I want Overheat Magnezone so I no longer have to use Hidden Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 01:15:18 No.33409442 Report

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I'll probably be uu in,gen 9 or somethi g

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Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 01:21:52 No.33409491 Report

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>>33405831
For a second there I thought it was 'Boys Love'
Fuck me

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bonkbonkSUPREME !xs255Og7dU Tue 29 Aug 2017 01:29:50 No.33409530 Report

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>>33406468
He will fall to UU and become usable again by then KoKo will be UU too and he'll be shit sadly [spoiler/]

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 01:53:33 No.33409650 Report

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>>33408255
Agree. Starfish regenerate lost limbs. Also, it already gets t-bolt, volt switch is appropriate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 04:38:56 No.33410874 Report

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>>33405831
Was making a reappearance when Marshadow was unbanned from OU. People started running it because of reckless bravebirds + resisting ghost type to deal with him.
>>33408114
Scizor does have some place on agressive rain teams as a defogger/dealing with fairy types, starmie is probably just going to be perma dead as a result of defog though.

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