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>>33406475
Not to mention they were nerfed to be as strong as a Life Orb boost on your attack.

The only reason to still use the Gems are:
-If your abilities are Unburden and Magician
-Item boosted full power Acrobatics

They're worthless otherwise.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:45:10 No.33406790 Report

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Hi guys can I be viable again?
I just need that one item

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:45:28 No.33406792 Report

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>>33406631
>Implying there is any okay animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:49:37 No.33406815 Report

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>>33406767
Plenty of items are just as worthless if not moreso, but still get brought over to each game.
Who has ever use a Ring Target?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:53:04 No.33406833 Report

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>>33406471
I agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:53:31 No.33406837 Report

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>>33406792
kommo-o's z move is pretty sick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:56:56 No.33406860 Report

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>>33406837
no it's not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:57:15 No.33406863 Report

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>>33406860
Yes it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 18:58:42 No.33406877 Report

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>>33406792
the ground z move looks like great. I'm very disappointed with how the earthquake animation looks so that sort of makes up for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:01:17 No.33406892 Report

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>>33406815

A gimmickmon with trick/switcheroo sent against an opponent with a vital immunity?
Not that anyone ever does that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:02:05 No.33406896 Report

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>>33406471
I 100% agree with this, I miss dragon gem draco meteor U-turn hydreigon, flying gem acrobatics, and dark gem sucker punch, fighting gem mach punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:02:29 No.33406904 Report

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>>33406767
hidden power Ice counter meta terrakion would like to have a word with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:05:00 No.33406932 Report

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>>33406815
>he doesn't do the Spooky Shuffle

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:21:52 No.33407079 Report

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>>33406892
...I never thought of that before. Interesting.
finally explains why that item even exists at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:26:57 No.33407116 Report

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>>33406896
>dragon gem draco meteor
Outclassed by Z-Draco Meteor

>flying gem acrobatics
One of the only reasons to still use the gems

>dark gem sucker punch, fighting gem mach punch.
In Gen VI and later, the damage output these items would bring are no different from running Life Orb.
>>33406904
Except Ice Gem boosted HP Ice does 20% less damage now. You'd get the same results when using a Life Orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:28:05 No.33407132 Report

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>>33406815
Ring Target allows Electric attacks to bypass Rhyperior and Marowak's immunity and activate their lightningrod instead.

I once made a gimmick team with a special Rhyperior alongside Discharge Thundurus-T and somehow managed to get to 1500 on Showdown's VGC 2015 ladder with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:33:58 No.33407187 Report

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>>33407116
>dragon gem draco meteor
>Outclassed by Z-Draco Meteor

No it isn't, you can use multiple gems in a battle but only 1 Z-move

>flying gem acrobatics
>One of the only reasons to still use the gems

This is just wrong

>dark gem sucker punch, fighting gem mach punch.
>In Gen VI and later, the damage output these items would bring are no different from running Life Orb.

Which was an arbitrary nerf just so GF could shill their shitty Z-moves later on and not have them overshadowed by gems, a 1 time 50% boost to a specific move that uses up an item slot is not broken at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 19:42:31 No.33407243 Report

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>>33406475
Z moves are cancer and you're an autist who should just kill yourself you easy amused piece of shit

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Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 20:58:28 No.33407635 Report

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>>33406596
So do I

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 21:02:14 No.33407670 Report

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>>33407187
>a 1 time 50% boost to a specific move that uses up an item slot is not broken at all.

It is in VGC, which is why Game Freak nerfed them and removed all gems except Normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 21:04:27 No.33407690 Report

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>>33406837
Yeah i like it.
Kommo-o isnt usually one of the cutest mons out there but the way he dances and shakes those scales look so cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 21:07:21 No.33407705 Report

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>>33407670
But why nerf them AND remove them? is like if they nerfed gale wings and then removed the ability altogether, what's the point of a nerf if you erase it from the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 21:08:10 No.33407714 Report

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>>33407705
because nobody care

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 21:39:12 No.33407906 Report

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>>33407705
Because gems are a Gen V thing, each gen must be different from the previous one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:33:03 No.33408306 Report

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Bug Gem boosted First Impression could be fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Aug 2017 22:51:47 No.33408453 Report

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>>33408306
If Gems kept the 50% boost after Gen V, then yes. For now it's no different from Life Orb First Impression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 00:16:25 No.33409048 Report

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>>33407670
Looks like we might as well make using choice specs/band and u-turn on the same set Illegal. Hell let's just remove them entirely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 00:17:42 No.33409056 Report

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>>33407906
OK then why is mega evolution still a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 01:51:49 No.33409637 Report

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>>33406471
Go away Chris-chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 03:31:31 No.33410435 Report

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>>33407705
I honestly think that they thought of z moves and gen 7 around that time, with the strange souvenir being in Kalos and all. Z-moves seem to replace the gems, with them being similar and all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Aug 2017 03:46:02 No.33410530 Report

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>>33406471
A good compromise would be to make the type boosting items boost a little more since I don't think they're commonly used.

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