>>33443549>Pyroar as an Aegislash counter>everPyroar's Normal typing just makes him fodder for 90% of sweepers while Aegislash swaps away, unless it has Sacred Sword for some reason. Enjoy those STAB Hyper Voices on your shittier Arcanine.
Heliolisk has no fucking use for his Normal typing. Now he's BTFO by Ground and Fighting; I sure hope those aren't common on sweepers.
Ghost immunity is only "really good" when it covers a Ghost weakness. Otherwise it doesn't make an impact most of the time. Special normal types blow tremendously in general. Hyper Voice isn't good without a MASSIVE Sp.A behind it or an -iate ability so that it can offer STAB super effective coverage. Normal moves have no super effective coverage, so anything using STAB Normal skills needs to have a giant offensive stat behind them to be threatening.
Both pokemon are in the 105+ speed tier with 109 Sp.A, and where do we see Heliolisk and Pyroar in the tier lists? Fucking RU and NU because STAB Hyper Voice backed by 109 Sp.A is a shit trade for some Fighting type weakness.
You fucking retard.
