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Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 20:52:53 No.33502537 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33502554 >>33502564 >>33502612 >>33502766 >>33503500 >>33504109 >>33504310 >>33505580

I want completing the National Pokédex to be as monumental and daunting a task as it was during Generation 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 20:54:32 No.33502554 Report

Quoted By: >>33502568

>>33502537
Me too man. Me too. I mean, sadly it's not likely to happen, with Nat sex being recommend and all, but I hope someday we get this much love...

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Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 20:55:58 No.33502564 Report

Quoted By: >>33503300

>>33502537
Game Freak has heard your plea. Work on the National Dex Project has started. Please understand. (laughs)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 20:56:18 No.33502568 Report

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>>33502554
>having to buy not only one the core games, but also spin-offs to complete the dex
>love
Pick one.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 21:02:23 No.33502612 Report

Quoted By: >>33502740 >>33503530

>>33502537
Are you fucking stupid, retarded, underage or all of these?
Was gen 3 your first gen?
Now I'll grant your wish:
Gen 8 isn't bank compatible.
All your mons will forever be locked into Sun/Moon.
Gen 8 games contain around 250 mons, between new ones and old ones.
To get every pokémon from gen I and II you need to connect with pokémon GO.
To get every gen III and V pokémon you need to buy "pokèmon next shitty spin off".
To get every gen IV pokémon you need to buy BOTH Shining Diamond and Jamming Pearl.
To get every gen VI and VII mon you need to buy "pokémon searcher" that allows you to scan for pokémons, only 10 mon a day.
Also, to get mythicals and shit you need to go to fucking gamestop and get the codes.
Mew and Victini are released only in japan up until the end of gen 8.

WOW completing the national dex surely was fun!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 21:21:04 No.33502740 Report

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>>33502612
>All your mons will forever be locked into Sun/Moon.
>Gen 8 games contain around 250 mons, between new ones and old ones.

I actually want that.... well I meant for competive. The SM regio dex only is pretty good. I just don´t like the distrubution. I mean we can get every fucking pseudo except t-tar in the regio dex.

I want a gen 8 with 250 Pokemon. 60% new ones, 40% old ones. I don´t want overpopulated shit. Give me a another Gen 3 pokemon distrubution (with better electrotype variety)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 21:26:03 No.33502766 Report

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>>33502537
You mean spending more money on buying a different console, spin-off games and the cable to transfer them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 21:26:27 No.33502768 Report

Quoted By: >>33502795 >>33502854

You need LeafGreen, Colosseum, GoD and Emerald to have all resources to get the National Diploma. That's four games, and that's not even accounting you need to play through LeafGreen three times and twice through Emerald to get them all. Why would you want that again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 21:29:49 No.33502793 Report

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>I want completing the National Dex to be a multihundred dollar paywall

lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 21:30:04 No.33502795 Report

Quoted By: >>33503254

>>33502768
You have to play through Emerald three times as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 21:40:10 No.33502854 Report

Quoted By: >>33511712

>>33502768

>TFW bought Fire Red instead of Leaf Green

Took until the Bw hype period before I managed to get a Slowpoke in gen 3. The Slowpoke line was the last I needed to get the national dex in Emerald. Only reason I'm afraid to restart Emerald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 22:47:02 No.33503254 Report

Quoted By: >>33504171

>>33502795
No you don't. You can breed the Johto starters from Colosseum, and you can get the other Lati with the Eon Ticket. If you don't have that, it's two playthroughs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 22:48:48 No.33503271 Report

Quoted By: >>33503301

It would be just as hard if it wasn't for online trading, which I still think should be removed from the games altogether. Give us streetpass trading instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 22:53:30 No.33503300 Report

Quoted By: >>33503423 >>33505339

>>33502564
I wonder if one of the reasons SM didn't have it was the new entries. They didn't want to do ~500 new ones if they weren't going to be found in the game anyway so they didn't bother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 22:53:33 No.33503301 Report

Quoted By: >>33503317

>>33503271
Yes. Because that's what mainline pokemon games need: more Pokémon Go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 22:55:36 No.33503317 Report

Quoted By: >>33505898

>>33503301
No, they need less global trading. There is literally no rarity anymore because even mythical pokemon are fucking everywhere. At least by scaling down the range, you would achieve a more balanced trading market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 23:06:00 No.33503423 Report

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>>33503300
They could just have used old entries for non-native Pokemon. That's how they usually handle it.

I'm not the kind of person who generally whines about feature removal, but the missing National Dex really bothers me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 23:13:20 No.33503500 Report

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>>33502537
Dammit your nostalgia goggles are foggy as fuck anon

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Anonymous Sat 09 Sep 2017 23:16:48 No.33503530 Report

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>>33502612
>Jamming Pearl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:19:25 No.33504109 Report

Quoted By: >>33504123 >>33510282 >>33511649

>>33502537
I DO like the Gen 3 Hoenn games, but
>Jirachi is exclusive to Pokémon Colosseum's Bonus Disc
>Celebi is exclusive to Japanese Version of Pokémon Colosseum's Bonus Disc
>Mew and Deoxys' were Emerald event exclusive
>Deoxys' weird form change in Gen 3
>Raikou, Entei and Suicune appear depending on what starter you chose, so unless you have a friend with either FireRed or LeafGreen you MUST restart your game THREE TIMES
>Ho-Oh and Lugia were event exclusive
>FireRed and LeafGreen turned into Version Exclusives Pokémon that weren't Version Exclusive (Psyduck and Slowpoke lines)
>Pokémon Colosseum is a must if you want to complete the Pokédex because is the only game that gives you all starters from the same Gen (Gen 2 starters)
>Espeon and Umbreon are the hardest non-legendaries Pokémon to obtain: FireRed and LeafGreen don't have internal clock so both MUST be imported to Hoenn, where Eevee doesn't appear at all and the internal battery might be empty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:21:14 No.33504123 Report

Quoted By: >>33504192

>>33504109
Almost forgot, despite the hate towards Gen 6, it IS the best Gen to complete the Pokédex because of GTS and only needed 4 games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:25:42 No.33504171 Report

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>>33503254
Hoenn starters, though. You can only trade with non-Hoenn games if you have beaten the league.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:27:49 No.33504192 Report

Quoted By: >>33504257 >>33505920

>>33504123
Gen 5 was the first game I completed the national Pokedex in. Technically I never completed gen 6 and subsequently gen 7 because I missed out on Volcanion and Hoopa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:33:48 No.33504257 Report

Quoted By: >>33504288

>>33504192

BW 1 or 2? If 2 I take it the shiny charm was your incentive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:36:37 No.33504288 Report

Quoted By: >>33504378

>>33504257
B/W 1. It wasn't a lack of incentive, it was mostly a lack of access to some Pokemon that the gen 5 GTS remedied. Owning only Platinum and HG out of all the gen 4 games made it hard to track down some Pokemon. I distinctly recall the Glameow and Stunky lines hard to get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:36:48 No.33504290 Report

Quoted By: >>33504299

I completed a living dex in gen 3, and no I don't want to have to do that again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:38:18 No.33504299 Report

Quoted By: >>33504353

>>33504290
Living Dex or bust for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:39:53 No.33504310 Report

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>>33502537
>completed national dex in not just one cart of Emerald, but two
>get a Cyndaquil and Totadile from Oak
>WHOOPS YOU CAN'T TRADE THOSE TO A NEW COPY OF EMERALD OR FRLG
>HAHA YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD TRADE EGGS TO EMERALD, TOO BAD!
What the fuck was the point? I worked my ass off to use these two and you can't even play the game with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:45:38 No.33504353 Report

Quoted By: >>33504389

>>33504299
I have maintained a living dex since gen 3, but I don't want to redo all the work required back then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:47:40 No.33504378 Report

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>>33504288

Glameow was infamous until ORAS since Pearl was the only game where you could catch it outside local wifi events in BW2 that requires other people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 00:48:41 No.33504389 Report

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>>33504353

I couldn't be arsed to make a living dex until bank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 02:46:06 No.33505339 Report

Quoted By: >>33511618

>>33503300
Nope. They've said in an interview earlier in the year they already felt like there was too many, and that they wanted to create the same feeling with completing the Pokedex just like Gen 1.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 03:16:25 No.33505580 Report

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>>33502537
If you wanted a challenge,there are Smogon and VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 04:02:25 No.33505898 Report

Quoted By: >>33511959

>>33503317
NO THAT WOULDN'T BALANCE THE TRADE MARKET. If anything it would make it worse by over valuing mythicals and legendarys like gen 6 if anything they need to over saturate the market so anything cana be traded and have value and if you need an example of how this would work i have one for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 04:04:43 No.33505920 Report

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>>33504192
If you still need those two i have them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 12:12:22 No.33507629 Report

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they need to put most of the pokemons in the game then

problem is, there too few pokemon catchable in each game to even bother trying to capture them all

so you just transfer your living dex and call it a day

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 15:41:56 No.33508615 Report

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The national dex in Gen III was only hard because only like 10 johto pokemon were available from RSE and FRLG so you had to also buy another console and Coliseum plus Gale of Darkness

It was a money sink but that doesn't make it challenging

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 20:16:05 No.33510282 Report

Quoted By: >>33511688

>>33504109
>Ho-Oh and Lugia were event exclusive
You can get them in the Gamecube games, but you still need both of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 23:32:09 No.33511618 Report

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>>33505339
inb4 usum has national pokedex back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 23:36:28 No.33511649 Report

Quoted By: >>33511688

>>33504109
>Pokémon Colosseum is a must if you want to complete the Pokédex because is the only game that gives you all starters from the same Gen
You get to choose one Johto starter in Emerald's post-game, so it is possible to complete the Pokedex without the Gamecube games (although Ho-oh/Lugia would be event exclusive and you'd need all 5 GBA games).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 23:41:14 No.33511688 Report

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>>33510282

They were programmed as mythical though. You didn't need them to complete the national dex.

>>33511649
You'd have to complete the Hoenn dex in Emerald 3 times that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 23:45:09 No.33511712 Report

Quoted By: >>33511808

>>33502854
Slowpoke is actually an interesting case, I believe it's the only non-legendary Pokemon that is truly exclusive in gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 23:52:39 No.33511777 Report

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I actually liked how Colosseum and XD had a lot of Pokemon that were difficult to obtain in the GBA games. I wouldn't mind having more spin-offs with connectivity that was similar to the Gamecube games. Every other gen requires you to have at least one copy of every game if you want to complete it (assuming you don't use the GTS) and gen 3 was no different in that regard. I personally think that gen 5 had the worst dex to complete since you needed to rely on the Dream World.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Sep 2017 23:57:09 No.33511808 Report

Quoted By: >>33511886

>>33511712

Considering a crap ton of Shadow Pokemon consisted of non legendary version exclusives, I'm certain they intended for it to be the way for Emerald players to get the RS exclusive Pokemon while giving the Kanto games a way to get the other versions exclusives but they forgot to add Slowpoke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2017 00:07:39 No.33511886 Report

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>>33511808
It probably was an oversight. For some reason, Psyduck and Slowpoke were turned into version-exclusives in FRLG despite not being exclusive in RBY. Psyduck was obtainable in RSE so it didn't matter that much, but Slowpoke wasn't so it ended being available in LG only.

Although you'd need at least one of the Kanto games to obtain the starters and fossils anyway so it doesn't make that much of a difference.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2017 00:15:35 No.33511954 Report

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>as monumental and daunting a task as it was during Generation 3

It'll never happen.
The reason completing Gen 3 was such a difficult task is because it wasn't backwards compatible with previous games. You needed to trade between Ruby and Sapphire, as well as attend events, as well as trade between side-series games like Colosseum and XD.
By the time you had a full Pokedex, you also had at least some contact with four different games.

You CAN make the process of completing newer Pokedexes closer to the Gen 3 experience, but you'll be spending more money and even then come up short on a few Pokemon only available from previous generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2017 00:16:34 No.33511959 Report

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>>33505898
Nah don't need one, you're full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2017 01:28:35 No.33512413 Report

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thank god there is the glitch to hatch any pokemon

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