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Do people actually like trials over traditional gyms?

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 18:36:06 No.33525664 View View Reply Original Report

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Personally I'm hoping for gyms to return in USuUMo. Found trials boring, gimmicky and real easy; easy even by Pokémon standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 18:37:43 No.33525681 Report

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>>33525664
>USuUMo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 18:47:37 No.33525757 Report

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I can see why people might prefer Trials. They're more steeped in a region's culture than Gyms are, they're something new, and Totems can be pretty fun to fight against.

I still prefer Gyms, though. They feel more official and organized, and Trials in practice are just watered-down Gyms.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 18:55:27 No.33525802 Report

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>>33525681
Sorry, meant UlSuUlMo

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Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 18:56:57 No.33525816 Report

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>>33525802
>Not PoUlSuPoUlMo
Fuck off Reddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 18:57:18 No.33525818 Report

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trials themselves need work, theyre way too random and simplistic. I love the concept of totems, though. I'd take that any day

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 18:59:05 No.33525827 Report

Quoted By: >>33525895 >>33525902 >>33530871 >>33531290 >>33531356

Most of the totem battles were far more challenging than gyms. I legit got my ass handed to me on that Salazzle fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 18:59:51 No.33525833 Report

Quoted By: >>33525858 >>33525910

I like the idea of trials, hopefully they actually do something interesting with them in the future
I don't see why they can't have both gyms and trials though
or just combine the two

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:03:00 No.33525858 Report

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>>33525833
I'd honestly really like to have both. Totems were cool; they just need to refine trials. And gyms will always have a spot in my heart, I'm always open to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:07:17 No.33525885 Report

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>>33525858
I also wish any trainers had more than 2-3 Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:07:34 No.33525888 Report

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>>33525664
totems > gym leaders
trial """puzzles""" < gym puzzles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:08:07 No.33525895 Report

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>>33525827
If Gym leaders could send two mons against your one and boost their stats without using a turn then gym mons would be much harder than totems

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:08:30 No.33525902 Report

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>>33525827
You must either be underage or a fucking retard, none of the totems are hard at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:09:22 No.33525910 Report

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>>33525664
I like trials better, they were more interesting and varied than gyms, which had become way too stiff and formulaic

>>33525833
>I like the idea of trials, hopefully they actually do something interesting with them in the future
considering that trials were suppose to be added very late in the game, to the point that they had to reuse assets for them, i'm really interested in what they can do now that they actually have more time to put into them.
Though, in a perfect pokemon game, they would mix both gyms and trials, so you would start the game, do two trials and then do a gym, and then go to the kahuna, making the adventure more varied

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:10:43 No.33525925 Report

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>>33525888
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:14:18 No.33525939 Report

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>>33525902
god I love this board. Bunch of manchildren getting hardons over how pro they are a Pokemon
What's that, something might be challenging based on your team and how prepared you were for something? No no that's impossible, clearly you are retarded because I had absolutely no trouble sweeping everything all the time. I can't possibly fathom the idea that somebody might be playing the game differently than I and isn't power gaming their way through everything.

This is probably an ironic thing to post here of all places but I mean it in all sincerity:
grow the fuck up, jesus christ

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Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:14:19 No.33525940 Report

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>>33525902
This. I don't think any totem every knocked out anything I had

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Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:15:59 No.33525949 Report

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>>33525939
Not him but you sound way more pathetic than the faggot making fun of people who suck at a kids game but I mean it with all sincerity

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:16:16 No.33525950 Report

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>>33525939
Pokemon is a game for children. If you have trouble with a children's game while you're an adult then you're a fucking dumbass. You attempting to cover your ass by calling out everyone else doesn't change this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:16:28 No.33525952 Report

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>>33525888
Gym puzzles vary a lot in quality, I rather no puzzle than Lt. Surge's for example, and some gyms don't even have them but still right for most cases I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:16:53 No.33525957 Report

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>>33525664
If they were legitimately a challenge, then yes. Tons of material to fucking worth with;
>go through this haunted supermarket that's filled with very strong ghost pokemon and take a picture of the rarest one
>Find a rare item drop off a pokemon in so and so
>Deliver this package in this short amount of time without using fly
>Puzzles
>Inflict every status condition on every trainer in the forest
>No using items or hms
They should just be hard challenges and quests but for pokemon. Have them work with all the mechanics of the game and be genuinely challenging, instead of "press the A button 3 times".

Totem battles were good, but they need to NOT be afraid to give them actual boss stats and fix the horrible fucking framerate they have.

>>33525858
Maybe this too; some gyms have trials before you have to face the leader and others have totems and trials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:18:28 No.33525967 Report

Quoted By: >>33527243 >>33529069

I found Pokemon Sun and Moon challenging in general.

Then again, battle style was on set, didn't have exp share on, didn't grind, and I used a full party of Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:19:13 No.33525972 Report

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>>33525957
I like your suggestions anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:21:27 No.33525981 Report

Quoted By: >>33526068

>>33525902
Then this board must be filled with retards and underage the second one i don't doubt it, because there were a huge amount of people who said they got their ass handed by one or another totem. Except Koomo-o, anyone would have a flying or fairy type who could one shot it by then

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Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:24:01 No.33525991 Report

Quoted By: >>33527167

>>33525664
>USuUMo
You do realize how stupid that looks right??? Can't you just use your brain and use USM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:24:45 No.33525998 Report

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They are almost the same shit, trials are shit compared to gym pluzzles and trainers but totem Pokemon are way better boss battles than gym leaders

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Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:26:24 No.33526010 Report

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>>33525972
Thanks, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:38:05 No.33526053 Report

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Trials were basically the same as gyms except they had shittier puzzles. Totem battles were cool although that's mainly because they basically had a free stat boost at the start of the battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:38:55 No.33526058 Report

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>>33525664
They were still harder than Gen 6 gyms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:40:11 No.33526063 Report

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>>33525664
Yes, more entertaining and harder
Next question

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:40:55 No.33526067 Report

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>>33526058
I found them harder than any gym, I turned off the Exp Share so I was normally about 2 levels bellow them tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:41:05 No.33526068 Report

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>>33525981
Honestly I don't doubt anything in your statement given how this board generally acts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:53:05 No.33526148 Report

Quoted By: >>33526343

>>33525902
they aren't, but they are harder than any of the shitty gym leader battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:53:21 No.33526151 Report

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Gym leaders should have stats boosts like Lusamine had

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:55:58 No.33526174 Report

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>>33525952
>He doesnt like digging through trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 19:58:06 No.33526190 Report

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>>33525664
Yes, they just need to be improved quite a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 20:16:26 No.33526343 Report

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>>33526148
They're really not. That's not to say gym battles are hard, though.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 20:19:16 No.33526362 Report

Quoted By: >>33531391

>>33525664

I would probably prefer trials if they weren't executed like shit

The idea of a progression system that's unique and tied to a region's culture is great because lemme be real gyms were kinda getting stale

however trials as they were in SM were garbage so if it's a choice between shit trials or gyms I'll take gyms any day of the week

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 21:15:15 No.33526760 Report

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>>33525664
It was a really nice change of pace but I prefer gyms overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 22:02:50 No.33527167 Report

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>>33525991
People are retarded, I like to draw out a map so I don't have to deal with people asking: "what does that mean? xD just write out the full name!"

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Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2017 22:12:02 No.33527243 Report

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>>33525967
this is the way anon, you just became a patrician pokemon fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 01:09:14 No.33528510 Report

Quoted By: >>33531394

>>33525664
What I would like if they combine both into the main story.
First you get introduced to gyms then before challenging the second you have to defeat one or two trials and keep doing that till the elite four or something like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 01:14:03 No.33528539 Report

Quoted By: >>33530945 >>33531330

The real question is how they're ever going to bring back gym battles when the totems are objectively superior.

Are they just going to make gym leaders send 2 mons against your 1? I mean that would work but the story justification would be silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 02:27:14 No.33529069 Report

Quoted By: >>33530945 >>33531485

>>33525967
Wait do people actually ever use a non full party?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 02:30:10 No.33529091 Report

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>>33525664
They were piss easy, most of them were annoying mini games followed by a mon I usually 1 one shorted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 02:31:35 No.33529096 Report

Quoted By: >>33531398

>>33525895
This, id actually sweat if I had to deal with 2 leader mons at once with boosted stats. The 8th gym would be a fucking nightmare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 08:43:18 No.33530871 Report

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>>33525827
The Salazzle fight was literally "Mudbray/Diglett used Earthquake".
The only one I found challenging was the Mimikyu fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 09:13:07 No.33530945 Report

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>>33529069
I usually know beforehand what team I want to use unless I'm doing a (blind)nuzlocke, so I don't use a full team until I am able to obtain all 6 members of my planned team in their respective parts of the game. I usually have 2-3 pokemon for the 1st few gyms/trials (depending on the game obviously)

>>33528539
Totems are indeed superior to gym battles, but the good thing is that totems are the easier thing to carry over to future generations. All they need to do is make it a test for every trainer to beat a boss pokemon before being able to challenge the gym. I mean, they already have 7 totems, they'd just need to add an 8th one for 8 gyms and 8 gym leaders.
All in all, there are ways to not axe the existence of totem pokemon, even if they're confined to wild unrelated things such as hidden grottos and the like

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 10:53:06 No.33531290 Report

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>>33525827
>show up with a cubone i just caught
>salazzle dies before it even does anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:09:52 No.33531330 Report

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>>33528539
Just pull an Ilima - you have to fight the leader and then the Totem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:13:58 No.33531349 Report

Quoted By: >>33531406

>>33525664
I want Gyms, but with the Leader's Ace Pokemon to be a Totem. Best of both worlds. Trials are ass compared to Gyms, but Totems work better as "boss" encounters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:15:59 No.33531356 Report

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>>33525827
Gym leaders need a totem pokemon buff imagine onyx

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:21:46 No.33531383 Report

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>>33526067
Exp share on, not even a lv 30 torracat can sweep totem Salazzle

Holy hell that was difficult Lurantis can one shot you with solar blade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:23:29 No.33531391 Report

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>>33526362
Totem pokemon are however a welcome change to the question format, gyms lost their teeth in XY,

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:25:04 No.33531394 Report

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>>33528510
I'd prefer a fan game to test its limits before GF does a full integration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:26:36 No.33531398 Report

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>>33529096
8th gym is supposed to be a test, Giovanni and Blair aren't pushovers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:28:14 No.33531406 Report

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>>33531349
Yep, I want that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:31:55 No.33531417 Report

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>>33525664
Hopefully there will be both in USM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:35:56 No.33531432 Report

Quoted By: >>33531435

hey were a nice side thing in alola, If Gyms where there too then It'd be great.

I Hope next gen they keep gyms and ass in more things like trials so there's more to do than just a trial or a gym then more onto the next town.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:37:01 No.33531435 Report

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>>33531432
add* lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:37:37 No.33531439 Report

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>>33525664
I'm going to give my opinion on this, apparently for people here totems were not challenging, for some it was. I'm gonna say to me it wasn't more or less challenging than were Gyms in previous games overall. But I really like the fact that GF went out of their comfort zone to bring something new to the franchise. I support that 100% and I really did like the concept of Totems and hope to see more. I do also have to agree that a mix between both concepts (gyms and trials) could also be a very great idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:49:20 No.33531485 Report

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>>33529069
people can be lazy

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