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>>33574450
I love the gen in itself, but hate playing through the mainstory because cutscenes and the pokemon selection being somewhat underwhelming.
love the new ones design wise, but rowlet has got to be the shittiest pokemon I ever had to start a game with.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 22:12:25 No.33574530 Report

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>>33574450
my main problem is too many gen 1 Pokemon and festival plaza is really inconvenient compared to pss. also it is way to hard to find most of the new pokemon.

I did liked the characters more than xy and the totem battles where fun.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 22:23:09 No.33574612 Report

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>>33574487
well, there will be another 100 thread for USUM until gen 8
then for diaper remakers
then for the third version of the games
and so on
this board is only good during release dates, so you beter get used to it

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 22:33:34 No.33574694 Report

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>>33574450
If Atleast we had a plot where Involves the death of some Important characters then It would be justified to have to wait 20 FUCKING MINUTES!!! to have a ""battle"".

XY are first version and yet has more postgame than this shit.

The region has no synergy whatsoever.

New pokemon ratio is hieous.

Every little shit got spoiled before release by fucking TPCi.

HAU.

Trials<<<<<<DAS2<<<<<Gyms.

Hordes>>>>>>SOS.

Shit regional dex.

National Dex locked behind a paywall (And I'm not refering to the Pokemon technically.

Fucking Plaza.

Can't have double battles at a decen't framerate.

Hau.

Lamest final boss battle.

Justify laziness of not doing Several (if not all) Pokemon overworld figures by removing HM and putting the habilities on arbitrrary mons.

Worst victory road to date.

Worst E4 to date (bar Acerola)

Lazy "post-game" faciity and fetch quest

Red's chin

Redditors calling this shit SuMo because "MUH CHILDREN"

Fucking HAU.

Kumo !RNAJ48TerM

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Kumo !RNAJ48TerM Sun 17 Sep 2017 22:38:25 No.33574732 Report

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>>33574450
I play Pokémon for the pokeymans and not for the story, and the story is a fucking obnoxious attention whore in that game.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 22:40:42 No.33574759 Report

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>>33574494
Where's the route in which 50% of the water encounters are Pelipper again?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 22:42:41 No.33574777 Report

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>>33574759
It's near Aether House, dont recall the exact route number.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 22:53:02 No.33574849 Report

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It's the region. I know /vp/ has like 500 different things to shit on about S/M but I don't really care about those.

But good fucking lord I am so tired of sunny tropical vacation shit. Finally done with Hoenn only to deal with Alola, twice. I miss temperate autumn forests, cool winter mountains, old mansions, towers and castles, and the snug little towns between them.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 22:58:48 No.33574891 Report

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>>33574497
I see you have never used Meganium.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 22:59:25 No.33574899 Report

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>>33574497
Why? I am planning on using Rowlet in USUM and from what I can tell it's not that bad

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 23:30:17 No.33575144 Report

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I was burned out and disappointed with the games since ORAS and the drought for the Z game was long, so my expectations were high. SM was not as good as I wanted. I ended up regretting my ORAS and SM purchase in the long run.

We could go and post a list of reasons but thats the main one for me.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 23:56:18 No.33575300 Report

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As someone who can normally play through each game a minimum of 3 times with joy, S&M just disappoint in so many ways I'm just starting my second run today finally.
I dread the cut scenes which I'm trying to count how many are unneeded shit with Lillie, but I could care less about the plot/characters so it's hard to pay attention.
The Pokémon while having good designs for the most part just are not interesting to use on top of that.
Only saving grace of this entry is no HM slaves which has been done before, and Z moves which aren't great but still neat.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 23:59:09 No.33575314 Report

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>>33574450
because i dont like lsbian protagonists

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 00:20:44 No.33575468 Report

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I was expecting a tropical paradise where I would become champion after completing the mysterious trials of the region. I would fight otherworldly creatures back into their own dimension, and I would expose the evil secrets of the obviously evil foundation. During the game, but especially the postgame, I would be free to explore the hidden nooks and crannies of each island.

Instead, I had to babysit a character whose defining trait, her refusal to battle, made her seem more useless that the preschoolers from B/W. I couldn't care less about Lillie's family issues, and Alola depended so heavily on her presence that the region felt lifeless after she left.

Even if USUM had no postgame facility that wasn't an expy of the Tower, there are still ways to improve it. Either a reworking of the story or de-emphasis on it would help. Fewer references to Kanto would be good. Alolan pokemon, both natural and forms, having an increased encounter rate is needed to make them more prominent. If GF is really willing to do it, 10-15 new Pokemon, not UBs, would be good too. Dungeons would be also nice. I just want to experience Alola, not be told about how amazing and cool Kanto is.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 00:32:00 No.33575544 Report

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>>33574450
Wella volcano park,

No interior maze, like Dark tunnel or Mt moon.
Mt mortar is way better level design than the stupid fun park.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 00:34:31 No.33575564 Report

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>>33574450
Shitty 3D, should've stayed in 2D if they can't do it right.
Lags.
"Loading screens" in already generated zones.
Only 81 new Pokemon and almost 20 of them are legendaries.
Many of those 81 new mons have shit stats.
Shit-tier starter trio design and stat wise.
Cock-sucking rival.
3 hours tutorial.
People talking to you non-stop.
Z-moves are just like mega-evo, some kind of test to bring new shit to the franchise. Plus most of them look bad.
The trials feel kinda rushed and Totem Pokemons are really underwhelming.
I don't really like Ultra-beasts, mainly because there are too many but also because they could have done much more with them in the plot.
Poke Ride is a really nice addition but the clothes you have to wear are disgusting. And I miss the Bicycle.

I think that's about everything.
There were some really cool things, but there are just way too many bad things for me to really enjoy playing the games.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 00:36:44 No.33575592 Report

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Dont hate S/M completely, but what makes it so underwhelming to me was the lack of a postgame for the 3rd time, more reliance on the Kanto pandering, and the low number of new Pokemon again. It also didn't help that the new Pokemon were rare encounters, for the most part.

I remember near the end of SM's prerelease hype, as the games were being datamined, a Twitter post claimed that it was found out that there was going to be a total of 143 new Pokemon. I was hyped af for that.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 00:39:02 No.33575612 Report

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>>33574450
>first island is essentially one long tutorial
>obtrusive fade-to-black cutscenes and dialogue bloat
>the region is fucking small, parts of it where you think you can explore are cut out with fade-to-black transition scenes
>Lillie takes center-stage way too often and tends to spit out useless dialogue and do nothing but heal you
>established trends in the franchise tend to be buttfucked by the need to drive Lillie's plot forward
>the Pokemon distribution is gen 2 all over again with many new mons being annoyingly difficult to find
>DUDE KANTO LOL
>ultra space is one long corridor, has fucking nothing in it
>ai is genuinely retarded
>postgame is barren
>very obvious framerate issues

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 00:48:55 No.33575702 Report

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>railroad with little exploration
>trash rival except for the few times he becomes self-aware
>way too easy
>genwun
>cutscenes that are a little annoying the first playthrough, but in subsequent runs make you want to kill yourself
>an african's dinner plate for a postgame
>leveling options are either the buffet abuse or gf telling you fuck off and grind festival plaza and both are slow as molasses
>bad selection/distribution of mons (waiting for bank was cancer)
I like the characters though. Also the Battle Tree was nice and the blatant hax was actually hilarious to me.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 00:53:18 No.33575742 Report

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>a third of the dex is kantoshit
>wingull line never fucks off
>ride gear is ugly as fuck
>ride music is horrible
>mudsdale is a worthless ridemon
>festival plaza's proprietary currency/slow rate of getting it/overcomplication of trading/getting outfits/constant game sync
>Lillie is uninteresting as shit and made me feel like i was handcuffed to her
>25% of the dex is legendaries
>all new pokemon that aren't named Ribombee or Pheromosa are way too slow
>majority of encounters are wingull line/rattata line/zubat/tentacool/fearow
>roadblocks roadblocking roadblocks to the point where you feel completely discouraged from even trying to explore after a point
>"1 attack and they're dead" trials
>kommo-o's name and stats
>constant blabber about uninteresting junk that amounts to "do the trial" or "stop my mom" only with 5 mins of text padding
>battle royal dome intro fight is the worst fight in the series, due to autopicking your first pokemon unlike all other facilities/chance that they all attack you/winning doesn't affect shit
>another tropical region
>clothing options are shitty and version exclusive
>"Hey remember Kanto? You're FROM kanto, you can even fly on a kantomon! Lillie's going to kanto now don't you love kanto?"
>SoS is a tedious chore
>process of hatching eggs has never been worse, requiring both hands to hatch at maximum speed while spinning around in a fucking box
>took them 10 months to actually release all the megas for no good reason
>battle tree is a worse maison having cut rotations/triples
>ridemons aren't even your pokemon, they're PokeUber, making you feel even more like a tourist
>routes are all hallways, i feel like i'm playing FF13
>volcano cave teleports you to the top
>game reeks of cut content
>questionable stat distribution in general
>took the "too much water" complaint far too literally and rendered an island region with less water than any other region despite surfing being a huge part of hawaiian culture
>introduced another evo stone

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 00:54:56 No.33575757 Report

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My main reasons are the lack of any exploration and intrusive plot.

You spend most of the game babysitting a girl who can't even be bothered to pick up a Pokeball, and you cannot enter a new route or town without some NPC or two popping out from the side explaining arbitrary shit to you. The game allows for extremely little exploration, and the optional/side areas that are there are empty and boring as shit. There is no sense of adventure at all in these games. It's just player being railroaded from point A to point B nonstop with constant, forced dialogue sequences every 5 steps you take in the game.
The visuals (for Pokemon standards) and music were nice. But the region and plot are utter garbage. I was hoping GF would take some notes from BOTW not for the open world, but for the fact that it's best to just let the player go and allow them to see shit on their own.

Story is a blight to these games, and I'm not sure why GF is so intent on including it when they can't write for their lives. Also pic related has shit art but it truly embodies what I felt about this game.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 00:59:00 No.33575802 Report

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>>33575702
I agree with everything you said, but at least the level grind wasn't as terrible as HGSS

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:00:41 No.33575820 Report

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>>33574891
you're right
>>33574899
it just really doesnt do much I couldnt get anything interesting to happen with it. it hits and does some damage and takes hits and takes some damage. what's even the point of trapping opponents in the playthrough, they never switch anyways. it's just very bland for me gameplay wise, but maybe that's just personal.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:03:59 No.33575849 Report

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>>33574450
Hau was annoying, didn't care for Lillie being forced in my journey, trials got old fast, and the new pokemon are lacking.

I did like how I no longer needed HM slavemons, though.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:06:20 No.33575876 Report

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>No major dungeons
I got through Cerulean Cave and Mt Silver when I was a kid, I'm sure this generations kids can handle a little work to get their legendaries
>Too much story (that really isn't even my story) guiding my journey
I spent so much time in earlier Pokemon games exploring every nook I could, and found my way through the game my own way, not by having characters and waypoints telling me explicitly where I have to go next. The only reason I ended up getting Oak's package for him was because I thought the Mart might have a way for me to capture the Pokemon I liked around Viridian City.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:12:03 No.33575933 Report

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>>33575742
Cont.

>introduced the ice stone, another unnecessary evo stone that evolves only 2 pokemon
>glaceon still evolves with the stupid ice rock
>route 1 bugmon doesn't evolve until 30 mins from the E4, despite "Bug pokemon evolve early!" being a thing from day 1
>magnetic area isn't the power plant or somewhere that makes sense, but an unrelated canyon
>Z-Moves are a poor replacement for megas and just make already good pokemon better
>clicking a move in totem battles delays the game for like 5 seconds
>brought back gen 5 exp scaling but forgot to include anywhere worth a damn to grind
>hyper training requires level 100 in the same game with that exp scaling, despite the fact comp battles use Level 50
>SoS shiny rate/ivs reset after the 255th encounter instead of just capping out
>basically no good way to shiny hunt
>buffed X items make it too easy for someone to just pop two of them and sweep through any and all fights
>majority of trials are uninteresting and play out the same. "Fight these 3 pokemon now fight the totem pokemon"
>constantly handed items and pokemon throughout the game
>Kommo-o's trial is one of the easiest fights in the series, getting instagibbed by basically anything
>zygarde is thrown into the region for no reason at all, and you're expected to get all 100 of those cells for a legendary you'll just end up boxing anyways
>no national dex
>impossible to organize pokemon by dex number in PC without looking at a guide due to the fucked up numbers they all have
>no bonus wallpapers for clearing the game
>bottom screen is a useless map with an objective marker despite the fact that the game already railroads you everywhere
>everything to do with online is in another section of the game, making it far more inconvenient to do anything online and making many people not bother
>no O-powers means you have even less capability to grind and hatch eggs than gen 6
>battle screen UI is ugly and all shoved to the side to make room for the Z-Move button

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:17:18 No.33575976 Report

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>>33575742
>>33575933
There's probably some stuff i'm missing, but i already wrote enough to hit the text limit twice over. SM are seriously the biggest case of buyer's remorse i've ever had. The plot is dull, Lillie's an uninteresting Mary Sue, and every second i'm in Alola i just wish i was in any other region. I hated Hoenn before this, but now, looking back, i'd welcome the numerous water routes back with open arms.

About the only thing i can say is a lot of the non-UB designs are pretty good, and Po Town was basically the only area of the game that felt like it had any thought put into its design.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:22:47 No.33576013 Report

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SOS battles; 90% of the time I just want to beat a Pokemon and move on instead they turn into 3-5 minute long battles with endless allies

Cutscenes; WAYYYYY too many and you can't skip them.

New Pokemon/Selection is weak. The new Pokemon mostly are MEH and the Pokedex is weak this Gen.

Trails are kinda boring, I don't feel like I'm really being challenged and it feels like a chore

Finally, the game is WAY too linear and holds your hand the entire game. An NPC heals you every 10 steps.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:23:24 No.33576019 Report

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>>33574450
Couple of reasons:
1. Hate how long the tutorial is, like what the fuck did GF have a stroke and forget what they did for the other games and decided to reinvent to wheel.
2. Boring. As bad as wanting remakes is, at least it makes the generation as a whole seem more interesting, but the way things are going Gen 7 looks to be worse then Gen 5.
3. Couldn't even finish the game. Between too many cutscenes, characters I didn't care about, and a general lack of interest in trials and catching the pokemon. I just found myself on the fourth island resetting the game because I couldn't take one more step.
4. Besides all the other issues I have, Gen 7 just has no redeeming qualities to me besides say a few interesting mons. I don't want to buy a Switch just for pokemon, but if Gen 8 even looks the slightest bit better than this, I may have to otherwise I risk leaving the franchise again like I did in Gen 5.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:29:03 No.33576050 Report

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>>33575468
>>33574450
>remove gyms
>replace them with a more boring gym where you have to solve a """""""""""puzzle""""""""""" and not even do a Pokemon battle with the leader (?????)

>remove PSS
>add this clusterfuck shitshow of you-literally-can't-even-play-this-game-online
Like, I need to delve into this a bit more. Imagine if Pokemon had the level of customization Super Smash has? Like you can make you own tiers and shit with your own rules, anything goes, everything in between, yanno, CUSTOM GAMES? and then there would be the official tiers (except not just 3v3 singles and 4v4 doubles, like actual official battle modes with a modicum of effort or thought put into them). Anyway the PSS wasn't even that great. It was just a pretty convenient little good use of the bottom screen, but now I have to run around this carnival collecting tickets and MAKING FRIENDS WITH NPCs (??????????????) just to use the online features? Like what the fuck is this what is going on? Someone fucking assassinate GF HQ already before it's too fucking late. KILL THEM

>too many furries
>forms limited to Kanto mon (?????)
Other than that I still like most of the designs. That's Pokemon's strongest trait: its great monster designs. I just wish they had a half-decent game based around them

cont.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:29:25 No.33576054 Report

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>>33576013
Two huge plus are Lillie who fucking ADORABLE and Salazzle agility and typing is a legit fun as fuck Pokemon to use.

I can't stress enough the amazing Lillie doujins.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:31:38 No.33576070 Report

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>>33576050
>ugliest, shittiest look, devoid of style, look like NPCs from Wii sports
>pixelated, character's face is static regardless of what's going on (WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT OF 3D THEN????????????)
>Pokemon models half look like shit, most don't even do anything, almost all colors look fucking awful
>""""""""""""""""route"""""""""""""""""" design the most boring point-a-to-point-b tripe imaginable, literally not a region just a bunch of long corridors that you can't interact with or explore with ten billion fucking screen wipes and fade to blacks and other interruptions
>>>>>>waypoints in a Pokemon game

>remove your own self-insert Pokemon adventure
>add some really shitty deviantart anime episode that's barely related to Pokemon
>be forced to experience these """"""""""""character's"""""""""""""" lives while you stand there and do nothing with a grin while a legendary Pokemon is about to kill everyone in a 8-minute long pixelated cutscene you can't skip (by the way, this is like the millionth cutscene since you've gotten on this new route, Pokemon battles are a distant memory as you watch crappy 3D models with sesame-street level dialog have some gay, uninteresting adventure you're barely a part of
fuck SM, can't wait to not buy USM. SM were a deep regret

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:36:15 No.33576095 Report

Quoted By: >>33576127 >>33576131 >>33576141 >>33578822

Please bring Masuda back to direct, for the love of God.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:36:45 No.33576097 Report

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>>33574612
I actually preferred it after it died down, we had some creative threads that were actually fun. Then USUM announcements came out and the starter wars and this shit started up again.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:42:07 No.33576127 Report

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>>33576095
>Please bring Masuda back to direct
No, bring in the guys who were behind Emerald, Platinum, and BW2. And if Masuda was behind any one of those, then he's clearly been loosing his touch lately. Let's not forget that he was the one who said the reason extended battle facilities(BF) have been absent lately is because kids these days are too focused on their phones, and thus ""don't have the time"" for postgame content. Dude wants to appeal to the mobile crowd, which doesn't seem too off now since apparently his favorite spinoff game is fucking Pokemon GO.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:42:49 No.33576131 Report

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>>33576095
Masuda's a large part of the reason why the games are like this now, and why they will continue to be like this.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:44:03 No.33576138 Report

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>>33576127
If we can get another game as good as B2W2 I would be so happy.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:44:34 No.33576141 Report

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>>33576095

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 01:52:29 No.33576186 Report

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Kommo-o's movepool is pretty shitty desu. Ever try raising one early game? It's fucking brutal.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 03:59:46 No.33577053 Report

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I may be a faggot, but I just hate the 3DS games. Can we please just go back to 2.5D in gen 5? This gimmick is awful and done horribly.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:09:06 No.33578458 Report

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>>33575702
>bad selection/distribution of mons (waiting for bank was cancer)

Oh God this. I only started the game after we got the bank and with that it just became a chore trying to fill the pokedex with new mons. They were either 5% or nonexistent in the routes.

I know XY has a lot of flaws, but I feel like it didn't suffer from distribution as much as SM did, you could get different pokémon almost on every route instead of sharing like half of it everywhere.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:14:41 No.33578472 Report

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>>33575757
That art doesn't look so shit to me, but I also with it completely. I actually dropped the game for months because I was so tired of not being able to explore on the first island. And th second island was barely any better. Once you leave to Aether Paradise for the first time they seem to calm themselves down with the long ass tutorial, but damn.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:16:21 No.33578476 Report

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Way too easy, I actually miss getting my ass kicked into the dirt, grinding for a day, then barely beating a gym.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:28:53 No.33578516 Report

Quoted By: >>33578542

a lot of flaws already covered but will list the worst offenders

>on-rail, WAY too many cutscenes

>online interface is a downgrade from gen 6

>worst champion theme ever

>postgame lacking content

the future is grim for the pokemon series. the magic feeling of adventure is no longer present, instead make way for a bunch of soulless companions devoid of any personality, constantly nagging you at every corner of the world.

it feels like a fucking baby's game, telling you how to put a square shaped block in a square shaped hole. all of my normie friends who have played this have been turned off by the drawn out cutscenes and the shitty roadblocks.

sun and moon are complete shit and judging by the trailer the remakes won't be any better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:37:39 No.33578542 Report

Quoted By: >>33578588 >>33578891

>>33578516
>worst champion theme
I mean yeah, wouldn't we all love a great Champion theme, but this would be far down the list of things I'd need in a good Pokemon game for it to be good and also far down on the list of stuff that was bad about SM that I'd bother to even bring up. Insignificant compared to the rest of the heap.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:39:03 No.33578546 Report

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>>33574450
It really needs a skip button for cutscenes, replaying it is such a fucking chore

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:40:39 No.33578548 Report

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>>33578546
>replaying it
lmao never. didn't even complete it the first time

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:53:17 No.33578588 Report

Quoted By: >>33578605

>>33578542
sorry, but in any video game music is important too. i loved every single champion theme from gens 1-6, but hearing that sorry excuse for a title screen remix was a slap in the face.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:54:50 No.33578594 Report

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>>33574450
terrible new pokemon
>slow but not bulky
>fast but not powerful enough

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 08:57:03 No.33578605 Report

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>>33578588
dude I agree but it's still a small turn nugget cherry on top of the shitvomit pie

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 09:11:33 No.33578644 Report

Quoted By: >>33578663

Backwards compatability. Game Freak has to put in the Mega Stones, and the evolution stones, and the Orbs, and the Plates, and the evolutionary held items, and a way of getting hidden abilities, and the Relic Song and Secret Sword tutors, and a magnet area, and the Ice Rock, and a way to evolve Sylveon, and a Professor, and an evil team, and the PC's mom, and a fat guy who loiters around the starting town. Each new game is shackled by the ones before it.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 09:16:10 No.33578663 Report

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>>33578644
Problem is, unless they retcon stupid shit like pokemon needing tutors for their signature moves and magnet areas, it'll only get worse and worse. As for the Plates, it'd be better if Arceus could just use the corresponding items like Mystic Water instead of plates. You forgot the 17 Memory Drives too.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 09:29:00 No.33578698 Report

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>>33575702
>>33578458
>pokebank wait whining
Ruby and Sapphire were worse. Gen III as a whole were worse. Go look at a list of pokemon not available in RS and then look at the release dates for other Gen III games like FRLG, then compare all that to the comparatively short wait for pokebank.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 10:14:35 No.33578822 Report

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>>33576095
Masuda is the reason why the series is going to shit. Ohmori too, but Masuda MADE him into what he is.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 10:30:24 No.33578884 Report

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>>33574450
>absolute trash starters
>brown people
>brown people place names

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 10:33:03 No.33578891 Report

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>>33578542
I really wish the legendary trailer music was the champion theme. If we're getting a remix, I want it to be a GOOD remix. Gens I and II already did title music remixes for their trailer themes and didn't make them shit. Fuck, I'm pretty sure I prefer Alder and Diantha's themes over the SM one of all things.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 10:34:49 No.33578904 Report

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Worst victory road to date.

Worst E4 to date (bar Acerola)

Thats two good things - they felt like they were improwised. Thats the point.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Sep 2017 11:53:16 No.33579312 Report

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The lack of substantial post-game (for like the third or fourth time in a row), the inability to skip the drawn-out intro and story elements removing any replay value, and Tapus VS Stall: The Meta (which is also the result of "let's not make power creep happen this time but fuck you let's do it anyway for a few mons") are the primary reasons for my negative view of SM.

Although I actually liked Hau and Lillie/Lusamine, they really dropped the ball with story/lore elements as well. The whole thing about Ultra Beasts invading being a seriously catastrophic event felt like it was only addressed in like two cutscenes and two lines of dialogue, only to be lazily swept under the rug with the piss-poor excuse for post-game that's actually one mechanic (which route they appear on) away from just being random encounters. Type:Null/Silvally's role was just blurted out in one piece of dialogue like it came from some sperg spouting trivia and was only really addressed later. While it's probably intentional that the Tapu have relatively little presence during the course of the game, it could've been cool if thetly were more active. Lastly, let's not forget that last Lusamine fight that had everyone rolling.

On a minor note, trainer customization is always nice, but it was a bit weak this time around. The Festival Plaza was kind of a neat idea and it's not the worst thing ever, but the PSS from XY and ORAS was far superior. I'm honestly doubtful about USUM because they have quite the substantial improvements to make, but only time will tell if I'll jump back in.

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