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>>33661644
I would say it needs a BST buff to put it up to par with the other pseudo legendaries, but it turns out the only thing it needed was talonflame gone

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 15:26:52 No.33661720 Report

Quoted By: >>33662432

>>33661644
Needs a third stage

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 15:26:55 No.33661721 Report

Quoted By: >>33661903

>>33661713

It's not a pseudo-legendary, it's Gen 5's Arcanine, they even have similar BSTs (550 vs Arcanine's 555)

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 15:28:07 No.33661730 Report

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>>33661680
volcarona is viable as is. just needs a bst buff to keep up.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 15:34:57 No.33661772 Report

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regional form of both: Larvesta unchanged except evolves into a cocoon mon, cocoon mon evolves into regional Volcarona, Volcarona has 50 more BST, slight difference in design, slightly diff movepool.

Gamefreak will never do it.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 15:47:35 No.33661840 Report

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>>33661644
Needs a split evo where it can make use of Larvesta's physical movepool.
Maybe even a physical Quiver Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 15:59:53 No.33661903 Report

Quoted By: >>33663025

>>33661721
So is Florges the Gen VI equivalent?
>evolves via stone
>552 BST
Honestly I think we should get a non-legendary at around 550somethint BST every gen. That whole area is like so devoid of mons because GF is too scared to give things high stats without making them a pseudo or a legend, or giving them some shitty hindering ability.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 16:00:42 No.33661909 Report

Quoted By: >>33661959

>no midstage cocoon made of volcanic rock
>no 600 bst
>no mega
>no Bug/Fairy lunar counterpart
Mayve SHE will get a Z-Fiery Dance that sets sunny weather.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 16:00:54 No.33661911 Report

Quoted By: >>33661934

>>33661644
>Larvesta
HP 55
Att 75
Def 55
SpA 40
SpD 55
Spe 50

>Cocoonesta
HP 75
Att 50
Def 90
SpA 60
SpD 90
Spe 40

>Volcarona
HP 85
Att 60
Def 65
SpA 135
SpD 105
Spe 100

Is that good ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 16:03:50 No.33661928 Report

Quoted By: >>33662443

>>33661644
>Larvesta
HP 55
Att 75
Def 55
SpA 40
SpD 55
Spe 50

>Cocoonesta
HP 75
Att 50
Def 90
SpA 60
SpD 90
Spe 40

>Volcarona
HP 95
Att 80
Def 85
SpA 135
SpD 105
Spe 100

Is that good ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 16:04:40 No.33661934 Report

Quoted By: >>33661948

>>33661911
Yes, but needs a better name for Cocoonesta.

Would be interesting to see it in Middle Cup though, having an actual movepool from Larvesta and all.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 16:07:39 No.33661948 Report

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>>33661934
That name was just for filler honestly. Larvesta is already a good bulky pivot in LC, I reckon a Bug/Fire type with high defenses and Eviolite, Flame Body and a slow U-Turn and WoW could be okay. Middle evos are always the most shafted though.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 16:09:52 No.33661959 Report

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>>33661909
I really want a Bug/Ice Luna moth counterpart not gonna lie. Keep the high special attack and speed, and keep the quiver dance. Just give it like Freeze Dry, Lunar Dance, MoonBlast, and I guess Moonlight or something

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 16:36:04 No.33662088 Report

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volcanora shuold be the second pseudo in unova, a fire moth in a sea of dragons would be good

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 16:40:19 No.33662115 Report

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 16:41:30 No.33662127 Report

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Okay I love Larvesta and Volcarona but you guys are actually insufferable with wanting buffs for a mon that's higher tier OU this gen
Be happy it's a non shitmon with Quiver Dance and unique typing with a signature move that is super viable

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:13:06 No.33662306 Report

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The only buff Volcarona needs is Dugtrio being unbanned.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:26:21 No.33662373 Report

Quoted By: >>33662401

I want a middle stage because it evolves way too late

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:27:28 No.33662380 Report

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>>33661710
Go away Richard, nobody wants you here

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:31:26 No.33662400 Report

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Needs the evo level to be retconned to 40/45/50

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:31:50 No.33662401 Report

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>>33662373
Most Gen V Pokemon do.

Like Rufflet to Wargle and Vullaby to Vulgina both at Lv. 54?
Pawniard to Bisharp at Lv. 52
Mienfoo to Mienshao at Lv. 50
and don't even get me started on Deino's line. Sure it makes sense, but they're too unreasonably high. And I tend to never use them in any of my playthroughs because of it

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:36:31 No.33662432 Report

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>>33661720

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:39:10 No.33662443 Report

Quoted By: >>33663013

>>33661928
Why the fuck did you nerf Larvestas attack?

It's only that decent base 85 attack that makes it usuable in game with eviolite.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:46:52 No.33662488 Report

Quoted By: >>33662565 >>33662818

>>33662401
>Larvesta evolves at lv.30
>Rufflet/Vullaby evolves at lv.36
>Pawniard evolves at lv.30
>Mienfoo evolves at lv.25
>Deino evolves at lv.30
>Zweilous evolves at lv.54
>Scraggy evolves at lv.25
>Tynamo evolves at lv.20
>Litwick evolves at lv.30

How about now?

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:48:57 No.33662501 Report

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>>33661644
It's perfectly fine. It just needs to evolve sooner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 17:56:42 No.33662565 Report

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>>33662488
>Larvesta evolves at lv.30
Too low. Around 45 would be better

>Rufflet/Vullaby evolves at lv.36
Perfect

>Pawniard evolves at lv.30
Good

>Mienfoo evolves at lv.25
Yes

>Deino evolves at lv.30
>Zweilous evolves at lv.54
Way better

>Scraggy evolves at lv.25
33-35 would be ideal

>Tynamo evolves at lv.20
Fitting

>Litwick evolves at lv.30
Definitely!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 18:27:52 No.33662818 Report

Quoted By: >>33662964

>>33662401
>unreasonably
Sure, lets have the entirety of Unova filled with Pokemon which evolve after only one level up!
Honestly, they are a bit too high, but Tynamo at Lv. 20 like >>33662488 suggests is stupid too.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 18:48:07 No.33662964 Report

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>>33662818
Why? Tynamo is its gen's Magikarp

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 18:54:37 No.33663013 Report

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>>33662443
I gave all the stages the same base stats as most pseudos : 300, 410 and 600. But I guess keeping the attack would be ok.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 18:56:18 No.33663025 Report

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>>33661903
>Honestly I think we should get a non-legendary at around 550somethint BST every gen
And we'll call them Quasi-Pseudo-Legendaries!

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2017 19:36:58 No.33663351 Report

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>>33661644
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