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Thoughts on gen 5?

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:22:56 No.33688531 View View Reply Original Report

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Thoughts on gen 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:23:36 No.33688538 Report

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Thoughts on gen 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:23:55 No.33688539 Report

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>>33688531
ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:23:58 No.33688540 Report

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Thoughts on gen 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:24:29 No.33688541 Report

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It was a major loss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:24:42 No.33688544 Report

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Gen 5 on thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:24:59 No.33688546 Report

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I have a thought on gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:25:19 No.33688549 Report

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Black and White are the second worst games in the series, Black 2 and White 2 are the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:26:30 No.33688559 Report

Quoted By: >>33688572 >>33688990

Boring region, hit-and-miss designs, awful graphic style, very few notable additions compared to previous generations. But of course you're not allowed to talk ill of gen 5 without the Unova defense force calling you a shitposter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:26:50 No.33688563 Report

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>>33688531
is this loss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:28:01 No.33688572 Report

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>>33688559
Hey look an anti-Gen 5 shitposter. Let me guess
>muh icecream and trash bags!1!!1
fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:31:09 No.33688592 Report

Quoted By: >>33688618 >>33688668 >>33689239

>>33688531
sw were shit.
sw2 kinda saved it a little with good endgame content and pokemon people actually like

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:31:28 No.33688593 Report

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Critical health song was the best

https://youtu.be/UJOuj59l-O4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:33:43 No.33688615 Report

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>>33688531
I think it was good, especially the OST music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:33:48 No.33688616 Report

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>>33688572
Not him but A LOT of the Pokemon designs were utter garbage, and looked as if another fucking company designed them. Like a chinese knockoff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:34:05 No.33688618 Report

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>>33688592

You're German, aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:40:06 No.33688668 Report

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>>33688592
>>33688616
Literally how do you hate so many gen V mons? There are so many designs that you're bound to like at least a few. Like, Gen V introduced more Pokémon than gen 6 and 7 combined.

I mean, you're entitled to your opinion if you genuinely dislike all of them, but it sounds crazy to me, is all. The more there are the more there are to choose from and the more wide appeal there is is how I see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:44:01 No.33688702 Report

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>>33688668
Good Gen 5 Pokémon:

>Volcarona
>Haxorus
>Krookodile
>Braviary
>Beheeyem
>Cofagrigus
>Excadrill

Everything else is between meh and trash. And I'm kind of being generous here by including the last two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:44:23 No.33688705 Report

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>>33688531
I skipped gen 5, but it's probably better than gen 7 since any gen is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 18:56:49 No.33688827 Report

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>>33688593
Yeah but it cut in the way of the battle music. I always muted on low health.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:02:53 No.33688890 Report

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I like Gen V.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:03:04 No.33688892 Report

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>>33688702
Don't forget
>Hydreigon
>Eelektross
>Chandelure
>Golurk
>Zoroark(even though it's a failed Lucario, I find it a good designed Pokemon on its own)
>Ferrothorn
>Scrafty
>Bisharp
>Zebstrika
>Every other Gen 5 Bug type

Though since everything beyond your list is "meh to trash" I'm curious how and why the Pokemon I listed fit that criteria

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:05:02 No.33688905 Report

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>>33688668
Quality does not equal quantity. I like some gen 5 designs a lot but it doesn't change the fact that a significant proportion of them are lacklustre compared to other gens.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:05:22 No.33688906 Report

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>>33688892
Forgot Mienshao, which interestingly enough, might be the 5th Gen Pokemon /vp/ universally likes based on the threads it gets on a weekly basis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:06:05 No.33688915 Report

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>>33688572
I bet you are the sort of person who bitches about Gen 1 folk. What's it like being so easily aggravated when people have different opinions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:07:47 No.33688930 Report

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>>33688915
It was just a joke, look at his original reply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:10:59 No.33688958 Report

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>>33688531
Is that a loss edit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:12:52 No.33688975 Report

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>>33688905
The quality vs quantity argument can't really be applied to Pokemon designs, because no matter what the general opinions are, it will always be a subjective field. I met someone who couldn't enjoy Gen 7, not because of of the usual cutscene complaints, but because he didn't like any of the Pokemon. Less new Pokemon also doesn't equal an increase in quality, it just equals less new Pokemon, and it's up to the person whether they like the majority of that small batch of not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:14:15 No.33688990 Report

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>>33688559
This, thanks for saving me the trouble of typing it myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:16:36 No.33689020 Report

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>>33688906
>might be the 5th Gen Pokemon /vp/ universally likes based on the threads it gets on a weekly basis
That's just /vp/ being filled with pokemon-fucking waifufags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:23:08 No.33689082 Report

Quoted By: >>33689103 >>33689126

I think judging a pokemon game solely on the designs of a few mons misses the point. In general pokemon designs are very crap. Charizard (the coolest one am i right?!!1!) is a fat dragon. Voltorb is a ball. Vanilux is an ice cream cone. Hydragon is a fat dragon. Pokemon designs are hard to judge them solely on their designs. Any judgement is tied to the performance of a pokemon and it's perceived value.

For example Haxorus is a "good design" mainly because it's a good mon to use in battle. Metapod does not even come up within a conversation of mon designs because it is not used in battle, it is not rare, it has no "value" therefore it's design is bad or it does not matter at all.

For me, I don't judge mons on their "designs." It's a fucking cartoon that looks like an animal or object. When I was younger I thought Scyther was the coolest because it had swords for hands. Haxoras has axes for jaws. Did I actually like the mon? Not really, it was hard to use. However, I love Heracross (my favorite mon) because this agglomeration of pixels really connected with me when I used him in Rube Elite 4 and it singlehandedly (or I should say single-horned-ly) swept the Dark type E4. That surprised me and created my perception of the mon.

Is Heracross a good design? Maybe? Is it rare? Sure? Do I love it's mega? Hell no, but I haven't used it yet to find out. Judging Pokemon designs divorced from their use and value is an unproductive endeavor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:25:06 No.33689103 Report

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>>33688975
yes all poke design are subjective and tied to a lot of other feelings. So it's hard to know what a "good design" even is. See >>33689082

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:26:34 No.33689126 Report

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>>33689082
People care more about first impressions than going full smogon or bromon when it comes to designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:28:01 No.33689135 Report

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>>33688975
The thing is that a lot of people claim gen 5 is good because it introduced the most new designs in the series. People seem to think that more new Pokemon means that the games are better when that isn't true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:28:58 No.33689141 Report

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>>33689135
so why are gens 6-7 shit then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:32:10 No.33689166 Report

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>>33689020
>projecting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:32:50 No.33689172 Report

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>>33689141
Because they are the only gens after gen3 to don't have proper postgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:33:03 No.33689176 Report

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>>33688618
um... yea....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:34:20 No.33689189 Report

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>>33689126
But what I'm trying to say is that this first impression of a design is really tethered to a lot of other things, like a pokemon's rarity for one. People think Mewtwo is a good design solely because it is a rare legendary. So this first impression has a lot of build up to it and isn't so pure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:36:41 No.33689209 Report

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>>33688531
>too linear
>beginning of Pokémon's casualisation
>Dream World was fun
>OST was neat

Enjoyable, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:38:33 No.33689223 Report

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>>33688668
there are some good gen 5 mons, but I think they overdid it. So what is stuck with all of us are not the gew good designs, but the trash bag and the god forsaken ice cream cone.
Maybe it was a good gen, but being able to catch only gen 5 mons at the first part of the game was a bad decision. People love nostalgia. Only catching new Mons makes it a bad experience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:40:40 No.33689239 Report

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>>33688616
>>33688592
fucking hell, I literally was thinking: how the fuck did he know?!
Of course! Its bw (black white)! not fucking sw (schwarz weiß)!
God I have to stop drinking so much befor posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:43:02 No.33689263 Report

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>>33689189
Legendary obviously are going to have build up on kids even through I sent Groudon to the box in my first playtrough of ruby.
Also Mewtwo already had build up with the Pokemon mansion stuff so yeah if gf gives a mon some lore it may mess up the first impression but Zoroark failed through

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:44:04 No.33689275 Report

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>>33688618
Well caught. I was wondering what the hell was he going on about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:48:09 No.33689306 Report

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It's definitely between Gen 4 and Gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:49:17 No.33689319 Report

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>>33689263
So then the question is does Game Freak design some bad designs and reserves some good designs, for legendaries lets say? If that is the case, then theoretically Game Freak determines what mons are "good design" and what are "bad design." The player isn't left with any thoughts on this?

If GF designed Zoroark to be a "good design" and with rarity and build up, how did it fail as a design? Or did it just fail as a useful poke and therefor was not deemed a good design by the players?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:51:11 No.33689344 Report

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>>33688531
The only gen I really hated. I love almost every Pokemon game and even SM have some redeeming features but I despise BW and BW2. Everything about Gen 5 was a fucking train wreck except for Eelektross Chandelure and Kyurem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:52:30 No.33689358 Report

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>>33688531
My favourite gen unironically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:53:39 No.33689375 Report

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Thoughts on gen 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:54:59 No.33689393 Report

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>>33689319
Zoroark failed as an advertisement. If GF didn't lock it and its prevo behind an event for some dumb reason, it'd be more liked than it is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 19:58:10 No.33689420 Report

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What is Loss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 20:03:27 No.33689472 Report

Quoted By: >>33689581

>>33688531
BW worst games in the series, BW2 among the best. It's a mixed bag, kinda like every gen since III.
Galvantula is my favourite monster from the region, most of the designs are good but some are trash. No, I like the trash bag.
Personally I disliked the story, but the major offender has to be the region designed as a straight line. Kalos and Alola are linear too, but at least they are not a straight line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 20:06:13 No.33689497 Report

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>>33689319
I wouldn't say Gf has absolute control over which design is going to success and which not but they do control their chances, just look at Lucario it's shilling personified but sometimes players can decide too like flygon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 20:13:08 No.33689566 Report

Quoted By: >>33689608

>>33688668
i actually only like 3 designs in gen 5, and everything is hatred not dislike

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 20:15:12 No.33689581 Report

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>>33689472
Literally my opinions, down to Galvantula being my favorite.

Great taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 20:18:22 No.33689608 Report

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>>33689566
>everything is hatred not dislike
How bad is it that you virtually hate all 153 designs instead of simple dislike or apathyou? I'm going to randomly pull some 5th Gen Pokemon that are usually agreed to be of the best designs from that Gen, and assuming none of them are the only three you like can you generally say why you hate them so much?
>Hydreigon
>Braviary
>Mienshao
>Volcarona
>Haxorus
>Galvantula
>Krookodile
>Excadrill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 20:26:22 No.33689677 Report

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>>33689223
>Only catching new Mons makes it a bad experience.
does it really?, i played BW and BW2 a few years ago after stopping playing at the beginning of gen 4 and coming back at the end of gen 6 and from what i played i loved it, mostly because i knew next to nothing about the pokemon in that region, so every new route there was something to be surprised, just having that feeling of playing and there being so new things was awesome to me, and i most of the pokemon i found i thought they looked good.
my only problem with bw was that until late game, everything the fishermen had was basculin and nothing else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 20:29:09 No.33689704 Report

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>>33689223
>Only catching new Mons makes it a bad experience.
does it really?, i played BW and BW2 a few years ago after stopping playing at the beginning of gen 4 and coming back at the end of gen 6 and from what i played i loved it, mostly because i knew next to nothing about the pokemon in that region, so every new route there was something to be surprised, just having that feeling of playing and there being so many new things was awesome to me, and most of the pokemon i found i thought they looked good.
my only problem with bw was that until late game, everything the fishermen had was basculin and nothing else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 22:24:46 No.33690832 Report

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>>33688531
My favorite generation.
BW provided me a brand new experience using only new pokemon and I loved almost every single one.
BW2 improved on many of BW problems and great postgame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2017 22:48:02 No.33691034 Report

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>>33688531
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