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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:34:31 No.33702113 View View Reply Original Report

/vp/oreons BTFO in oblivion

you literally cannot refute this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:37:36 No.33702132 Report

Quoted By: >>33703307

how can you reveal so much and show so little

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:37:46 No.33702135 Report

Quoted By: >>33702144 >>33702157 >>33702211

I love how Joe regularly destroys 4chan losers and the virgins on this website simply can't handle it. Joe lives by a very simple belief: facts > feelings. It's why Serebii has become what it is, and I'm sure Gamefreak appreciates it.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:39:17 No.33702144 Report

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>>33702135
>>33702113
Suck a cock Joe.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:40:36 No.33702156 Report

Quoted By: >>33702194

>>33702113
>Returning characters: Hau, Lillie, Gladion, Lusamine etc.
>characters from original 2 versions returning in the third version is news

>Joe lives by a very simple belief: facts > feelings
Get off /vp/, Ben Shapiro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:40:43 No.33702157 Report

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>>33702135
t. joe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:42:08 No.33702170 Report

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>trying to frame it as if an expanded Unova is on par with those contentless uSM eatures. Joe pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:43:13 No.33702176 Report

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>>33702113
I'll take fucking Emerald's reveals over USM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:44:03 No.33702180 Report

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>>33702113
The list only looks so long because since BW2 many new returning features have been introduced and SM also made quite a few changes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:46:09 No.33702194 Report

Quoted By: >>33702211

>>33702156
What does Ben Shapiro have to do with all this? Are you just bringing him in because you're butthurt or something?

For the record, I agree it's stupid that he listed those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:49:47 No.33702211 Report

Quoted By: >>33702236

>>33702194
It's a joke, senpai, because >>33702135 said "Joe lives by a very simple belief: facts > feelings" and "facts > feelings" is lil' benji's pinned tweet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:49:58 No.33702212 Report

Quoted By: >>33702238 >>33702255 >>33702366 >>33703118 >>33703349

>>33702113
Why are the two UBs and carrot separated when you could easily condense it to "New Pokemon"?
Why doesn't B2/W2 get "Returning characters," PWT, or Pokestar Studios?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:50:42 No.33702218 Report

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>>33702113
why is colress and new characters separate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:52:43 No.33702226 Report

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>>33702113
This whole list is bullshit sometimes its listed sometimes its not also you must take into account USUM literally copied off Kyurems gimmick while it was new and unique in BW2 and they are split up third version (which is ridiculous in itself) insteaf of completely changed sequels

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:53:21 No.33702232 Report

Quoted By: >>33702391

>>33702113
>Compares Unova getting entirely new cities and routes Alola's little beaches
>Or Join Avenue
>Or Pokestar Studios
Dumb onionposter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:53:37 No.33702236 Report

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>>33702211
Oh, skipped over that reply. Pardon.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:53:56 No.33702238 Report

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>>33702212
This
Saged

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:55:02 No.33702246 Report

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why is joe getting increasingly desperate over USUM
it's really sad to see him like this...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:55:46 No.33702252 Report

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>>33702113
>pokedex upgrades is just as relevant as battle frontier
lmao?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 03:56:26 No.33702255 Report

Quoted By: >>33702276 >>33703206 >>33703340 >>33703371 >>33703405

>>33702212
>Why doesn't B2/W2 get "Returning characters," PWT, or Pokestar Studios?
Pokestar studios is completely insignificant. PWT was pretty barren too
>let's just bring back a bunch of characters we've already made and make them battle XD

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:00:40 No.33702276 Report

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>>33702255
Pokestar is significantly more important than "characters will return in the expanded version. The fact that it is even used as a selling point is a complete joke.
>I don't like battling
Oh, I see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:03:13 No.33702294 Report

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Unbiased comparisons.
BW2:
>New MCs
>New rival
>New towns and routes
>New gym leaders
>Colress
>Kyurem forms
>Keldeo form
>Therian forms hinted
>Pokestar Studios preview
>Join Avenue preview
>Dream Radar
>Unova dex expansion

USM:
>Character redesigns
>Mysterious group of unrevealed characters
>New UBs
>Necrozma forms
>Lycanroc form
>Game crashing Z moves
>Mantine Surf
>Photo Club
>Trial changes
>New minor areas
>Alola dex upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:04:34 No.33702313 Report

Quoted By: >>33702335 >>33702345

>>33702113
They list "new character designs" for USUM, but not for BW2, which had redesigns for a few characters. They also don't mention PTW and PokeStar Studios, which are as big, if not bigger than Mantine Surf and Photo Club.

And we got Keldeo's forme too, right?

But this is all moot, since USUM's main problem is that a lot of what they revealed was expected. The stuff that IS new and unexpected has barely been explained; heck, we know more about Photo Club than the UBs and Necrozma's role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:06:29 No.33702335 Report

Quoted By: >>33702348

>>33702313
PWT and Keldeo's second forme weren't revealed before "just under two months left".

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:08:03 No.33702345 Report

Quoted By: >>33702356 >>33702380 >>33702399

>>33702313
>hey also don't mention PTW
The lists reflect the two month point before release. PWT was revealed one month before BW2 came out.
The upcoming Corocoro will make or break USM. If there is a serious battle facility, it will likely be revealed then.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:08:45 No.33702348 Report

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>>33702335
Oh. I was totally confused by what "Just under two months left" even meant, to be honest; I thought it meant stuff that was revealed within those two months.

Though this is also all muddled further when BW2 had 2 less months of advertising time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:08:53 No.33702350 Report

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>Expanded the Unova region
One whole row

>Colored Lycanroc orange
One whole row

>Distortion World
One whole row

>2 Z-Moves
One whole row

Yeah I'm impressed, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:09:48 No.33702356 Report

Quoted By: >>33702381

>>33702345
>That picture

Memories of Steven's steel spoon are resurfacing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:11:12 No.33702365 Report

Quoted By: >>33702376

>selling a game at full price that's only 5% new content on top of a game from a year ago is okay because Game Freak did it in the past

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:11:13 No.33702366 Report

Quoted By: >>33702391

>>33702212
>PWT, or Pokestar Studios
those were announced one month before release

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:12:58 No.33702376 Report

Quoted By: >>33702401

>>33702365
BW2 were definetly more than 5% they changed the whole base of BW

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:13:15 No.33702379 Report

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>>33702113
I'm not usually one to hate on Joe but this list is nitpicky as fuck, returning characters, new areas, new designs, and new characters are all a given for third versions and shouldn't be on the list at all. I'll give the expanded pokedex because of no natdex in SM but you have to be retarded to think more Pokémon wouldn't be catchable. Ultra beasts should also be combined since he combined gym leaders for BW2.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:13:39 No.33702380 Report

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>>33702345
>Steven and Volkner's positioning
Oh my.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:13:40 No.33702381 Report

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>>33702356
I can't believe someone remembers my shitty short fanfiction.
You'd think Steel and Electric would have some kind of relationship on the type chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:15:58 No.33702391 Report

Quoted By: >>33702403

>>33702366
But as you can see here >>33702232 they had already been revealed in a "Wow, what's this?" way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:18:04 No.33702399 Report

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>>33702345
This. We'll see in few weeks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:18:16 No.33702401 Report

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>>33702376
Which just proves that GF can do better than 3rd(+4th) versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 04:18:44 No.33702403 Report

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>>33702391
hey i'm just clarifying, not agreeing with joe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 05:01:43 No.33702609 Report

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>>33702113
>comparing B2W2 (a completely new game that just happens to take place in the same region as BW) to USUM (upgrade to SM)

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 05:18:25 No.33702681 Report

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>>33702113
>palette swapped Lycanroc and palette swapped Solgaleo/Lunala with copy pasted parts slapped on vs Kyurem forms made from scratch and Therian forms made from scratch
>mentions "new character designs" as if it's a point for USUM when only the protagonists are redesigned while BW2 has an entirely new protagonists with new designs anyway
>two entire massive sections of the region opened up and added in Unova compared to a few sections barely changed in Alola
>says nothing about entire fucking new story in BW2 vs USUM being almost entirely a rehash
>thinking anyone cares about photo club or surfing bullshit

wow this isn't biased at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 07:06:41 No.33703118 Report

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>>33702212
he is listing separate categories for every thing e.g. new pokemon, new form, legend form and whatnot, and also colress is separate from "new characters" for bw2 supposedly because he's a villain and not part of "new protags/rival"
It's retarded and the list is stupid but it's what he claimed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 07:28:02 No.33703206 Report

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>>33702255
Get out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 07:41:47 No.33703258 Report

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>>33702113
I agree with Joe but this is stupid
with what purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 07:45:16 No.33703269 Report

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>>33702113
Hrs such a fucking shill holy shit

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 07:49:32 No.33703281 Report

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>>33702113
>2 WHOLE new Z moves
>mysterious new characters that were pointed out by the community and not flat out revealed by TPCi
>returning characters that was common fucking knowledge
>Alola Pokedex upgrades which was also obviously expected
>"t-these should all be treated as huge news scoops!"
Jesus Christ I hope he gets fucked by another C&D, or better yet a straight up fucking lawsuit and his site get shut down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 07:58:15 No.33703307 Report

Quoted By: >>33705475

>>33702132
This, the pic hurts your case if anything OP, past games revealed less with WAY more fleshed out content and new features. Now all it wants to give us as new are apps no one will use, 2-5 legendary shitmons, and new forms (not actual evolutions or new mons) that only a fucking handful of 3 that will be useful. I'm sad you think shallow content=general content to gain interest. Ok? Content, but you have to give me something to be hype about. Fucking battle frontier gave me a fucking all out battle royale with goddamn legends to boot. The fuck am I gonna enjoy outta some babyshit photo app and a wall Pokemon that's not even a Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:01:48 No.33703316 Report

Quoted By: >>33703326

>>33702113
Why would he not add PWT, Pokestar studios, New character designs for old characters and list each therian form deparately like he did with USUMs mon for BW2
He comes across so fucking deperate, imagine if youre whole life revolved around pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:05:51 No.33703326 Report

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>>33703316
PWT wasn't revealed until October iirc
Which is why I still have a sliver of hope left for USUM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:07:47 No.33703332 Report

Quoted By: >>33703586

>>33702113
Unova thing he missed:
Grottoes
Join ave
Different PWT modes
Missions

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:09:13 No.33703337 Report

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>>33702113
Translation from shillish to human:
>2 new legendary Pokemon you won't be able to use in your in-game team
>3 hideous forms for existing Pokemon (2 of them legendary) you likely won't use in game due to being event locked/late in the game
>bunch of shitty minigames everyone will forget after the first week
>gym (trial) changes (just like in every other third version)
>new/returning characters (just like in every other third version)
>expanded regional Dex
Post game content: 0
Performance improvements: 0
Actual new areas: 0

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:10:34 No.33703340 Report

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>>33702255
>insignificant
Most of the USUM table is 'insignificant'. A few form changes, 'returning characters', 'new areas', 'new moves', 'gym changes' all of this fits in every column.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:14:59 No.33703349 Report

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>>33702212
It's a list of things that were revealed 2 months prior to the game's release, so supposedly PokeStar Studios were revealed at a later date.

Still, listing every UB and form seperately and giving characters 3 different spots under the USUM list is just low-effort padding

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:25:52 No.33703371 Report

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>>33702255
It's another "I have never used this feature therefore I am qualified to have an opinion on it" episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:29:04 No.33703381 Report

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>>33702113
>2 slots for UBs
>1 slot for 2 Kyurem forms
UNBIASED

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:30:59 No.33703384 Report

Quoted By: >>33703444 >>33703495

>>33702113
Why is he posting that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:33:56 No.33703391 Report

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>>33702113
Putting it in a graph doesn't make it any more impressive.
The main mistake is calling this Ultra whatever instead of just making it obvious it's a third version, I think the name alone got a lot of people hyped for more.

Gamefreak really shit the bed this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:39:02 No.33703401 Report

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>>33702113
>Returning characters
Yes I also remember when Emerald, Platinum and B2W2 had absolutely no old characters shown in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:40:10 No.33703405 Report

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>>33702255
>PWT was pretty barren
Nigga I'll fucking fight you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:55:27 No.33703444 Report

Quoted By: >>33703495

>>33703384
Because he's an autistic shill for Nintendo. And he wanted to shut people up about lack of features in USUM, but he did such a shit job he's made more work for himself replying to people on twitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:57:39 No.33703449 Report

Quoted By: >>33703499

>people getting mad at facts
People here really are desperate for the games to be bad

PWT, the biggest reveal, was revealed just over a month before release. USUM is still further out than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 08:59:17 No.33703451 Report

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>>33702113
>Returning characters: Lillie, Gladion, Hau, Lusamine, etc.
Dude is really scraping the bottom of the barrel there. There's plenty of characters that have returned in the third versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 09:13:13 No.33703495 Report

Quoted By: >>33703563

>>33703384
>>33703444
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually was on Nintendo's payroll. Remember he never published massive leaks like the starter's final forms or full Unova dex, while basically every other fansite on the web did it without care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 09:17:52 No.33703499 Report

Quoted By: >>33703634

>>33703449
fuck off Joe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 09:20:03 No.33703505 Report

Quoted By: >>33703576 >>33703607

traffic to serebii must be seriously dropping, he's gone into shill overdrive

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 09:43:19 No.33703563 Report

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>>33703495
>I wouldn't be surprised if he actually was on Nintendo's payroll
Then you're an idiot. Why would Nintendo pay someone to do something they're happy to do for free? They literally don't care about Serebii.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 09:49:09 No.33703575 Report

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>>33702113
Joe's been known to suck peoples dicks at cons who have tricked him by wearing a masuda mask
true story

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 09:49:24 No.33703576 Report

Quoted By: >>33703604

>>33703505
If traffic to Serebii was dropping, wouldn't he be promoting URLs to Serebii rather than making random tweets with no reference to his site?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 09:52:42 No.33703586 Report

Quoted By: >>33703597

>>33703332
READ before you post lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 09:57:49 No.33703597 Report

Quoted By: >>33703634

>>33703586
stick to running serebii joe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 09:59:45 No.33703604 Report

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>>33703576
half his tweets are about him updating the site. Even OPs tweet is referencing his site

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 10:00:37 No.33703607 Report

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>>33703505
I am neutral towards him now, back then it was all Serebii Confirmed but now naah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 10:07:42 No.33703626 Report

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>>33702113
Nice grouping there Joe. Sure is the Distortion world, the Battle frontier, and the expanded Unova, comparable to Island trial "Changes".
Also "Returning characters" really, where is that for every other one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 10:10:31 No.33703634 Report

Quoted By:

>>33703499
>>33703597
>can't refute shit
>OP was right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 10:18:19 No.33703664 Report

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>>33702113
This is stupid.
>New Characters and Colress listed separately in the BW2 column
>New UBs listed separately
>Huge features like the Battle Frontiers and Expanded Unova take up the same amount of space as shit like Alola Photo Club

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 10:25:06 No.33703689 Report

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>>33702113
I'm pretty sure this list was posted on /vp/ earlier. Did Serebii post it here himself (and make a spelling error) or did he steal it and claim that he made it? Either way, it's pathetic considering some of the items on the list are practically nothing and others are major additions. Also the Therian formes are all grouped under one item while the two Ultra Beasts are listed as two separate items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 18:09:24 No.33705475 Report

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>>33703307
I was agreeing with everything you were saying until this:
>a wall Pokemon that's not even a Pokemon
This meme has to end. UBs are Pokémon. Kill yourself if you think otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2017 19:06:28 No.33705807 Report

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-Many of the items on the USUM list can be condensed into single items to match BW2.

-Protags is missing from the BW2 list, we knew of them just over 2 months before release.

-Returning characters is meaningless, same could be said for BW2, we already knew returning characters from that

-Island Trial Changes is interchangable with new Gyms, which we knew before 2 months until launch.

-We knew about Pokestar Studios 4 months before release.

I can get most of this information from Serebii. Read your own website, Joe. I'm not sure what the game is here, probably the same old contrarian "Convince yourself the game is going to be amazing and that everything is A-OK". I don't see the point, there's no need to sugarcoat the truth just because you don't like what it says.

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