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Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:17:40 No.33801182 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33801187 >>33801257 >>33801270 >>33801433 >>33801434 >>33801546 >>33801938 >>33802055 >>33802283 >>33802284 >>33802408 >>33802471 >>33802554

>All the Ultra Beast locations will be empty ass corridors with nothing to do after catching the beasts
>Necrozma shit with the new characters is just cringey Delta Episode 2.0 shit
>No improvements at all to Battle Tree and Festival Plaza. Enjoy your shitty minigames though lol
>No new alola forms
>Multiple Z moves per battle kills competitive for good

USUM will be the worst games of all time, even worse than ORAS and XY. Groudonposters will win. All of you delusional denialfags will get BTFO for good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:18:35 No.33801187 Report

Quoted By: >>33801190 >>33801220

>>33801182
Delta Episode was shit. Nothing can surprass the garbage ORAS was because USUM at least isnt making more mega cancer like ORAS did

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:19:17 No.33801190 Report

Quoted By: >>33801199

>>33801187
It makes more Ub cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:19:20 No.33801191 Report

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>implying multiple Z moves can be used online

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:20:40 No.33801199 Report

Quoted By: >>33801200 >>33802100 >>33802516

>>33801190
ub Are less cancerous than megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:21:23 No.33801200 Report

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>>33801199
this is true

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:24:28 No.33801220 Report

Quoted By: >>33801437

>>33801187
Bitch, at least Megas are predictable. Multiple Z moves are straight up going to break the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:31:53 No.33801257 Report

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>>33801182
>Games that do nothing but expand upon the originals
>Somehow will be worse
Anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 10:34:01 No.33801270 Report

Quoted By: >>33801407 >>33801437 >>33801519

>>33801182
When people here say the Delta Episode was shit, then you know that no story in pokemon will ever please /vp/, and no one should even bother to further discuss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:03:23 No.33801407 Report

Quoted By: >>33801899

>>33801270
Are you retarded? Delta Episode was shit because not only was the story it tried to tell was shit, but it was implemented pretty bad. Have you ever considered that people who want story in pokémon actually want quality content?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:09:33 No.33801433 Report

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>>33801182
>>All the Ultra Beast locations will be empty ass corridors with nothing to do after catching the beasts
Still infinitly better than SM

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:10:00 No.33801434 Report

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>>33801182
Still 3 new Ultra Beasts.

Groudonposters BTFO forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:10:46 No.33801437 Report

Quoted By: >>33801548

retards pls go and stay go
>>33801220
Multiple z-moves won't happen in the battle tree or online.
>>33801270
>waah if you don't like this fecal matter you won't like anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:35:10 No.33801519 Report

Quoted By: >>33801524 >>33801544 >>33801554

>>33801270
>/vp/ is one person
The stories in BW and BW2 were phenomenal for Pokémon standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:36:34 No.33801524 Report

Quoted By: >>33801547

>>33801519
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:41:21 No.33801544 Report

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>>33801519
>grr my cat fuk u plasbaad!
Great.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:42:13 No.33801546 Report

Quoted By: >>33801563 >>33801584 >>33802005

>>33801182
>>All the Ultra Beast locations will be empty ass corridors with nothing to do after catching the beasts

It's funny you say that, since that basically described every "dungeon" Groudon has been found in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:42:34 No.33801547 Report

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>>33801524
>>33801544
>for Pokémon standards
They're not perfect but they were decent enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:43:35 No.33801548 Report

Quoted By: >>33801880

>>33801437
>no evidence
Fuck off, GF apologist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:45:10 No.33801554 Report

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>>33801519
BW? Sure. Not the best story, but it was a good attempt on GF's parts.

BW2? Yeah, no. And this is coming from somebody whose favorite Pokemon game is BW2.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:49:00 No.33801563 Report

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>>33801546
>Terra Cave in Emerald is even shorter

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:52:55 No.33801584 Report

Quoted By: >>33801618

>>33801546
>Groundon
>Kyrouge

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 11:59:04 No.33801618 Report

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>>33801584
>Needing flash and a Master Ball
It was clearly written by a child for children

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 12:51:26 No.33801880 Report

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>>33801548
Remember how you could cheese through battle spot because you used amie or refresh?
Didn't think so, faggot. Off yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 12:53:47 No.33801899 Report

Quoted By: >>33801930 >>33802091 >>33802182

>>33801407
>Cool female character
>Expanding mega evolution lore
>Sky pillar upgrade
>Multiverse introduced
>Fight deoxys in space
>'shit story'

Yeah go fuck yourself jackass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 12:58:46 No.33801930 Report

Quoted By: >>33802052

>>33801899
>>Sky pillar upgrade
>>>>>upgrade
The only good thing you listed was the Deoxys battle. Zinnia isn't salvaged by her design and setting up multiverses is asking for a disaster of a plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:00:01 No.33801938 Report

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>>33801182
>Groudonposters will win
You're using this meme wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:13:01 No.33802005 Report

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>>33801546
>both legendaries in the game
i wish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:15:33 No.33802015 Report

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Groundon posters are still coping with defeat I see.

Don't worry maybe gen 8 you guys won't get BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:21:48 No.33802052 Report

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>>33801930
ORAS's SP is definitely superior to the first visit Emerald's though. It's the good RS version when you return yeah but it had no reason to be that shit in your first visit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:22:05 No.33802055 Report

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>>33801182
That's not what groudonposting means you fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:26:34 No.33802091 Report

Quoted By: >>33802107 >>33802116

>>33801899
Do you even consume any non-Pokemon related media? The whole story hinged upon the player hoarding everything they find into their bag. The entire story would be ruined if player left the meteorite in their computer or gave it back to Cosmo for the TM, which are two things I tried to do before the Elite 4, but couldn't. Delta was dogshit. The only good thing was flying to space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:29:44 No.33802100 Report

Quoted By: >>33802234 >>33802598

>>33801199
Megas still gave life to certain shitmons like Beedrill. UBs are all minmaxed cancer with shit designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:30:59 No.33802107 Report

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>>33802091
Wait that's a reason for disliking the Delta Episode? Fucking autist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:33:13 No.33802116 Report

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>>33802091
>A childs game for children has an incredibly insignificant thing that if it did happen, would make a plothole
Wew lad. Have you any idea how many films and games wouldn't exist if a character had done something different?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:47:04 No.33802182 Report

Quoted By: >>33802216

>>33801899
>Zinnia is a shit character, absolutely fucking detestable
>Retconning established mega evolution lore because everything has to be about ORAS
>Sky Pillar was shit
>Multiverse introduced sloppily by laying out inane criteria for qualifying for being in the "current" universe, shit like saying XY's old war didn't happen in RSE's universe even though RSE and XY were in the same universe before ORAS came along
>Deoxys fight was cool, that's the only good thing about it.

Get some fucking standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:53:16 No.33802216 Report

Quoted By: >>33802243

>>33802182
Not him but that's not what retconning means anon, for fuck sake. Also "I dislike" is not a rebuttal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:56:30 No.33802234 Report

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>>33802100
most of them
shit like guzzlord is worse than snorlax

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:58:14 No.33802243 Report

Quoted By: >>33802267

>>33802216
>Mega stones are evolutionary stones altered by the power of xerneas and yveltal
>Mega evolution is a mysterious and unique trait to Kalos
>A Lucario is thought to be the first Pokemon to mega evolve
>No Rayquaza invented mega evolution eons ago and it's been around this whole time all over the world actually, and mega stones are space rocks
That's a retcon.

When the initial argument is "Zinnia is cool", and the obvious underlying reasoning for that is "I want to fuck Zinnia", you don't get a rebuttal any more thoughtful than being called an idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 13:59:13 No.33802251 Report

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LE
FUCKING
NOFFIN
XD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:01:44 No.33802267 Report

Quoted By: >>33802285

>>33802243
What's it like to be this dumb?
Also Primal Reversion =! Mega evolution lore-wise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:04:43 No.33802283 Report

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>>33801182

Double z-moves is for non-PvP only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:04:46 No.33802284 Report

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>>33801182
>Necrozma shit with the new characters is just cringey Delta Episode 2.0 shit

Wrong

Delta Episode was postgame, the stuff with Necrozma and Ultra Recon is part of the main game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:04:54 No.33802285 Report

Quoted By: >>33802295

>>33802267
Rayquaza mega evolves, it isn't a primal reversion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:06:54 No.33802295 Report

Quoted By: >>33802326 >>33802500

>>33802285
Which means one (1) mon we know about evolved before Lucario. Which it's claimed "is thought" to have been the first. It also happened millions of years before and in a different region to the person who makes that claim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:11:51 No.33802326 Report

Quoted By: >>33802337 >>33802358 >>33802767

>>33802295
Rayquaza did it several times, and the knowledge wasn't kept a secret. ORAS also takes place before X and Y, and has mega evolution happening all throughout the story, and it is explained in the game that mega stones are meteorites. Both of those facts are at odds with information X and Y provides.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:13:14 No.33802337 Report

Quoted By: >>33802394

>>33802326
You really don't seem to understand what a retcon is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:17:02 No.33802358 Report

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>>33802326
>The knowledge wasn't kept a secret
What on earth does this mean?
>ORAS takes place before X and Y
Citation needed
>It is explained in the game that mega stones are meteorites
Oh, you didn't play it. It's explained in game SOME megastones were once meteorites. Presumably the ones that are exclusive to Hoenn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:24:04 No.33802394 Report

Quoted By: >>33802417

>>33802337
>revise retrospectively, typically by introducing a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events.

X and Y established things about Mega Evolution, as they ought to have, being the games introducing the concept. ORAS came out later and gave new explanations and origins for several things about Mega Evolution, superseding X and Y and revising the origins of the concept retrospectively, by introducing new information, which interprets the origin and nature of Mega Evolution differently than it was described in X and Y.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:26:10 No.33802408 Report

Quoted By: >>33802466

>>33801182
We don't even know how much of the games plot has changed.
I think we can at least pray that GF will make the Ultra Dimentions not just long corridors instead of complaining about things we haven't even had a hands-on experience with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:28:16 No.33802417 Report

Quoted By: >>33802425

>>33802394
Oh wow, you're just dumb.
Additional information is not retroactive continuity. No information contradicts the information we are given in XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:29:50 No.33802425 Report

Quoted By: >>33802443

>>33802417
wasn't the whole "You need a deep bond with a Pokémon for it to Mega Evolve" thing retconed or am I just having a brain fart?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:32:10 No.33802443 Report

Quoted By: >>33802460 >>33802474

>>33802425
Nope. Mega Rayquaza doesn't evolve from regular means, and no Pokémon without a trainer ever mega-evolves. The deep bond is literally not a factor in any way, since you can mega evolve a strangers Pokémon you were loaned for one fight, but nothing in ORAS claims that it was never the case

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:34:41 No.33802460 Report

Quoted By: >>33802485

>>33802443
>Mega Rayquaza doesn't evolve from regular means, and no Pokémon without a trainer ever mega-evolves
Well technically you shouldn't say no Pokémon without a trainer can Mega-evolve while saying Rayquaza can. I mean you can say that Rayquaza is unique and an exception, but it's still a Pokémon that can Mega Evolve without a trainer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:36:22 No.33802466 Report

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>>33802408

As long as Nanu has a sizable part I'm good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:37:10 No.33802471 Report

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>>33801182
What an absolute nitpicking moron....

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:37:24 No.33802474 Report

Quoted By: >>33802485

>>33802443

Mega Evolution seems to require human input.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:38:46 No.33802479 Report

Quoted By: >>33802491

groudon posters are worthless. can they even put groudons on wonder trade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:39:26 No.33802485 Report

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>>33802460
It would be redundant to say "apart from Rayquaza" when I already mentioned him. It should also be redundant to repeat that Rayquaza doesn't Mega Evolve the same way as any other Pokémon, including not having a trainer AND Sycamore clearly didn't know Rayquaza could Mega Evolve, so that statement isn't false.
You (apparently) need a deep bond to Mega Evolve your Pokémon. Rayquaza does not have a trainer to Mega Evolve it. It Mega-Evolves itself.
>>33802474
For everything except Rayquaza, which doesn't evolve from a mega stone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:41:24 No.33802491 Report

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>>33802479
They aren't even using Groudonposting right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:42:57 No.33802500 Report

Quoted By: >>33802511

>>33802295
>It also happened millions of years before and in a different region to the person who makes that claim.
It happened 3-2,000 years before the main story, after AZ fired his weapon. AZ even witnessed Rayqauza mega evolving and commented on it. Mega evolution still stems from the same place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:45:38 No.33802511 Report

Quoted By: >>33802614

>>33802500
>After AZ fired his weapon, AZ even witnessed Rayquaza mega evolving
When/Where was this? Genuinely don't remember

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:46:12 No.33802516 Report

Quoted By: >>33802783

>>33801199
At least you can only use 1 mega per team. You can actually spam multiple UBs in a single team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 14:54:48 No.33802554 Report

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>>33801182
>thinking multiple Z-moves will be allowed in competitive
>comparing the Necrozma stuff to Delta Episode

either bait or retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 15:02:34 No.33802598 Report

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>>33802100
>UBs are all minmaxed cancer
The only cancerous UB is the least minmaxed one
>with shit designs.
opinion discarded.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 15:06:22 No.33802614 Report

Quoted By: >>33802620

>>33802511
Zinnia's loredump at the Sky Pillar in the Delta Episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 15:07:06 No.33802620 Report

Quoted By: >>33802732

>>33802614
A source anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 15:27:02 No.33802732 Report

Quoted By: >>33802741 >>33803307

>>33802620
>"...A witness to this series of events, a tall visitor from a distant land, said, “It is the Δ (Delta), born of the great disturbances in this world. By the bonds born of mankind's wish and the power of the stones, it will calm the troubles that plague the world."
That's Zinnia's exact text from the DE, following the tale of Mega Rayquaza stopping the Primals. AZ is mentioned several times in the DE but never referred to by name, instead by height and being a foreigner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 15:28:35 No.33802741 Report

Quoted By: >>33803291

>>33802732
What exactly does that retcon in XY?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 15:31:37 No.33802757 Report

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Delta episode was cool and the new stuff in usum looks cool as well
Don't mistake being jaded for lack of quality, I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 15:33:18 No.33802767 Report

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>>33802326
You answered your own question by saying it was kept secret

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 15:35:47 No.33802783 Report

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>>33802516
No different from previous legendary pokemon though
Only this time they have cool lore and neat designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 15:52:06 No.33802865 Report

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Is it battle frontier or bust for you guys?
maybe it's time to find another game to drag down, pokemon is a bit sore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 16:53:46 No.33803291 Report

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>>33802741
Not the anon you were talking to, but XY did mention how the knowledge of Mega evolution was unique to certain families of Kalos and mega stones were hard to come across and use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2017 16:57:06 No.33803307 Report

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>>33802732
>Rayquaza is doing the "Pokemon of Order" thing better than the actual Order Pokemon
Wtf are you doing Zygarde?

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