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ITT we buff moves

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 21:09:36 No.33971595 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33971627 >>33971636 >>33972335 >>33972337 >>33972362 >>33972401 >>33973395 >>33973854

Don't make it OP
Dragon pulse: 20% chance to lower Sp.Def

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 21:14:33 No.33971627 Report

Quoted By: >>33971648

>>33971595
Multi Attack: +1 Priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 21:16:37 No.33971636 Report

Quoted By: >>33971667 >>33971672 >>33971678 >>33972441

>>33971595
Zap Cannon: 100% accuracy but paralyzes both you and the target (Even if you are electric type)
Dragon Dance: Maxes Attack but gives truant
Hyper Beam: Gen 1 mechanics
Quiver Dance: Multiplies stats by three tiers but gives drowsy condition
Splash: 50% chance to change the opponent to the water type
Encore: Permanently locks opponent but halves your heath and traps you in, and immunizes enemy of all trapping mechanics
Conversion: Changes the move in your first slot to the type you convert to
Scald: Fire/Water type move
Explosion: Normal/Fire type move
Slash: Always crits but power is halved

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 21:17:41 No.33971648 Report

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>>33971627
Multi Attack: Attacks multiple times

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 21:20:31 No.33971667 Report

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>>33971636
Most of these are pretty awful. You straight up just nerfed slash and made many moves unusable or too complex for their own good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 21:21:55 No.33971672 Report

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>>33971636
OP said buff not ruin like you've done with half of these

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 21:22:19 No.33971678 Report

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>>33971636
spwp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 21:28:52 No.33971715 Report

Quoted By: >>33971805 >>33972459 >>33972718

Skill Swap persists through switching out and fainting.
Wrap, and similar moves, reduces the ATK of the affected Pokemon for the duration.
Fire Spin, and similar moves, reduce the SpATK of the affected Pokemon for the duration.
Magnet Rise affects your ally in Double Battles as well
Dragon Hammer ignores stat boosts.
Bestow now gives a random berry to the target if the user has no held item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 21:40:44 No.33971805 Report

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>>33971715
>random berry
enjoy your razz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 22:15:12 No.33972089 Report

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Is Kommo-o good now that it has its Z-move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 22:43:59 No.33972335 Report

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>>33971595
>Hurricane has 95% Accuracy out of rain
>Power Gem has 90 Base Power
>Earth Power has 110 bp, but 95 acc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 22:44:40 No.33972337 Report

Quoted By: >>33972590

>>33971595
Iron Head has a 50% chance to flinch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 22:47:50 No.33972362 Report

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>>33971595
Power Gem has not-shit distribution. If you are Rock-type, or strongly feature gems in your design, you now learn Power Gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 22:55:01 No.33972401 Report

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>>33971595
Water pulse: 75 BP, 30% chance to confuse to make up for the confusion nerf in gen 7

Seed bomb: 30% chance to flinch.

all slashing moves (slash, shadow claw, dragon claw, night slash, X-scissor, Psycho cut): Power buffed to 90 bp in addition to the high crit chance.

Withdraw: acts more as a water type synthesis rather than a water type harden.

Submission: Now acts as a fighting type double-edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 23:00:23 No.33972441 Report

Quoted By: >>33972507

>>33971636
None of these are buffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 23:02:07 No.33972459 Report

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>>33971715
I like the Wrap, Fire spin, and Dragon hammer ones. Rest are meh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 23:08:48 No.33972507 Report

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>>33972441
>Hyper Beam potentially not needing to recharge isn't a buff

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Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 23:22:19 No.33972590 Report

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>>33972337
>jirachi can make a slower mon flinch 100% of the time

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Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 23:41:18 No.33972718 Report

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>>33971715
I like the magnet rise but not others and Dragon hammer could just hit behind a sub rather.

And for the Fire spin etc. I would just boost their acc and base damage a little

And my own buffs:
-Bonemerang now hits flying type Pokemon too
-Octazooka BP 65>85 ACC 85>95

And specifically to make up for the crit nerf:
-Air cutter BP 60>80
-Razor leaf BP 55>70
-Razor Wind 80>100 and puts up a tailwind
-Cross Poison/Psycho Cut/Night Slash/Slash BP 70>80

Overall they have done pretty good job lately balancing moves, don't think there are too many other moves that needs a buff, some moves are shit on purpose for the story to not be too easy and for the low level mons to not be too good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 00:36:51 No.33973063 Report

Quoted By: >>33973946

>flare blitz now 1/4 recoil
>aerial ace 90 bp
>power gem now physical
>thunderbolt, flamethrower, ice beam 100 bp
>blizzard, fire blast, thunder 95 acc, 30% chance of secondary effects

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:01:25 No.33973238 Report

Quoted By: >>33973364

>Give night daze better distribution or make new special dark type moves because there's only 3 special dark type movers, one of which is 55bp shit and night daze is only learned by a grand total of 2 Pokemon, one of which is a legendary

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:11:51 No.33973323 Report

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A female pokemon using Swallow with a male pokemon nearby will get 25% extra healing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:13:44 No.33973342 Report

Quoted By: >>33973446

Dragon Dance now also raises Special Attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:14:31 No.33973350 Report

Quoted By: >>33974187

Spit Up now also applies Defense and Sp. Def drops to the target equal to the number of Stockpile stacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:16:19 No.33973364 Report

Quoted By: >>33973491

>>33973238
Snarl is really good move in doubles though since it hits both and lowers their sp.atk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:19:02 No.33973395 Report

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>>33971595
Detect: Has better odds of working after consecutive uses

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:24:03 No.33973446 Report

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>>33972362
>>33973342
These

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:29:14 No.33973491 Report

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>>33973364
Yes, but I want more variety, especially when I'm using themes when making stuff. Dark type's physical movepool is great, but then I'm making a special type and I'm forced to choose dark pulse

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:40:16 No.33973604 Report

Quoted By: >>33973799

>>33972590
>Jirachi can Flinch anything with a lower base speed of 174 if it holds a scarf with max speed
>After Sticky Webs, it outspeeds 255 speed Pokemon that are grounded and don't have an ability to negate the speed drop

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 01:59:52 No.33973799 Report

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>>33973604
best have a scarfed speedy spinner then, eh anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 02:05:58 No.33973854 Report

Quoted By: >>33973905

>>33971595

Fire Lash is now learned by more things than just fucking Heatmor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 02:10:53 No.33973905 Report

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>>33973854
+1
Also, Mystic fire or whatever that fire type move that only mismagius and Delphic can learn. Give that shit to others

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 02:13:25 No.33973934 Report

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Dragon tail now has a chance to move first

Hyperbeam can be used with no recharge by mono normal types

Metronome has a higher chance to hit moves with good effects. Remove all shit tier moves.

Dragon beam - a special version of Dragon claw :^)

And add a prankster move that field resets like defog prankster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 02:14:22 No.33973946 Report

Quoted By: >>33973980

>>33973063
Boy you already have Rock Slide and Stone Edge wee need at least one Special rock move that isnt ancient power

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 02:17:33 No.33973980 Report

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>>33973946
>Stone Edge and accelrock are now special

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 02:42:39 No.33974187 Report

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>>33973350
Wow, this is really good.

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