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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 17:52:11 No.34072428 View View Reply Original Report

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>97/167/97/167/97/129 (BST: 754)
>Psychic/Dragon
>Ability: Neuroforce, Powers up moves that are super effective
>Photon Geyser: Psychic, 100 BP, 5 PP, 100% accuracy, physical or special depending on which attacking stat is higher
>Transforms from Dusk Mane/Dawn Wings after using its Z-Move (200 BP, uses the higher attacking stat, ignores abilities)
>Dusk Mane: 97/157/127/113/109/77 (BST: 680) Psychic/Steel with Prism Armor, Sunsteel Strike
>Dawn Wings: 97/113/109/157/127/77 (BST: 680) Psychic/Ghost with Prism Armor, Moongeist Beam
So how do we make this thing work? Physical, special or mixed?
Can it reach AG?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 17:55:02 No.34072504 Report

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NIGGER FUCKS FOR EVERYONE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 17:55:19 No.34072511 Report

Quoted By: >>34072949

>>34072428
>ransforms from Dusk Mane/Dawn Wings after using its Z-Move.

Wait so its like meloetta? that form is only possible during battle after a move? well that sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 17:57:40 No.34072560 Report

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>>34072428
whats its name and rest of move pool?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 17:58:08 No.34072569 Report

Quoted By: >>34072599 >>34072870 >>34073709 >>34075590

>>34072428
>base 77 speed
The Z-form is gonna be ubers, but the base formes are gonna be OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 17:59:41 No.34072599 Report

Quoted By: >>34073709

>>34072569
This. It's like Zygarde

Anonymus

Anonymus Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:00:12 No.34072609 Report

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I hate that its wings aren't fully attached to its body...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:00:29 No.34072618 Report

Quoted By: >>34073431

>>34072428
So is Necrozma an Ultra beast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:01:02 No.34072629 Report

Quoted By: >>34072987

Give this thing a +1 or +2 via calm mind, and watch as it fully becomes pokebahamut mega flaring everything non dark type into oblivion in 1-2 turns with its signature move. And remember, 129 speed means that unless you use priority moves, it will meme laser you first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:01:25 No.34072635 Report

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>>34072428
So it can't hold an item?
B tier Ubers it is then...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:02:16 No.34072651 Report

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>>34072428
Told you niggers to stop jumping to conclusions.
Mega Fug is still the only AG mon as it can use an item on top of on demand evolution only requirement is having its best STAB

This mon will be Uber at best

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:03:20 No.34072674 Report

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>>34072428
So it can't even learn Draco Meteor? What's the point of it being dragon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:04:19 No.34072699 Report

Quoted By: >>34072939 >>34075088

>>34072428
What happens with Photon Geyser when both Attack and Special Attack are the same?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:04:36 No.34072703 Report

Quoted By: >>34072979

>>34072674
I mean, it gets dragon pulse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:05:59 No.34072730 Report

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>>34072674
Dragon Pulse and Outrage via move tutor

check the tutor learnsets you fucking niggers, Necrozma gets Earth Power, Heat Wave, Knock Off and these two dragon moves now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:12:44 No.34072870 Report

Quoted By: >>34073004

>>34072569
>Necrozma used Rock Polish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:13:05 No.34072880 Report

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>>34072428
>252+ Atk Necrozma-3 Photon Geyser (Physical) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 288-339 (40.9 - 48.2%) -- 66% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
It's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:15:30 No.34072939 Report

Quoted By: >>34079681

Too bad Psychic and Dragon are garbage STABs as far as SE damage is concerned. At least you can do some faking out with Dusk Mane since it has almost completely opposite resists/weaknesses as Ultra Necrozma.
>>34072699
Probably favors Attack like Beast Boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:15:56 No.34072949 Report

Quoted By: >>34073100 >>34073163

>>34072511
More like Mega Rayquaza I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:17:31 No.34072979 Report

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>>34072703
>>34072730
Yeah, true. Just...Draco Meteor would have been nice, you know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:17:56 No.34072987 Report

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>>34072629
I got autism reading this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:18:59 No.34073004 Report

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>>34072870
Which leaves it with a not-so-great STAB combo and one coverage move. Lati@s don't fare too well in this generation you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:24:34 No.34073100 Report

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>>34072949
Rayquaza doesn't need to USE a move to transform, just need to have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:29:20 No.34073163 Report

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>>34072949
moreso like most ash greninja sets

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:31:23 No.34073190 Report

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>>34072979
Agreed, but then again Mega Sceptile and Mega Ampharos also lack Draco Meteor. It's bad but we gotta deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:35:02 No.34073241 Report

Quoted By: >>34073469 >>34073563

Wait, so Necrozma would be able to use 2 Z-Moves per battle? Dawn/Dusk variant and Light That Burns the Sky?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:47:17 No.34073431 Report

Quoted By: >>34073506

>>34072618
It's a UB that lost its ultra energy after adapting like Solgaleo and Lunaala.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:49:16 No.34073469 Report

Quoted By: >>34073563

>>34073241
No, you can chose between 3 Z moves, Solgaleo's if you have it (in sol form), Lunala's if you have it (in luna form) or Necrozma's if you have it (in sol OR luna form

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:51:16 No.34073506 Report

Quoted By: >>34073557 >>34073574

>>34073431
This is not canon. This is a meme theory made up by Richard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:54:42 No.34073557 Report

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>>34073506
>Cosmog is specifically called UB in the videogames and the anime series
>Cosmog line and Necrozma stats have primal numbers
>Cosmog line and Necrozma cries have the same weird sound that the other UBs
>Cosmog line and Necrozma literally create Ultrawormholes
They are UB, face it already

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:55:02 No.34073563 Report

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>>34073469
>>34073241
It would be pretty stupid if you couldn't use a Z-move on the Dawn/Dusk Necrozma without transforming it desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:55:53 No.34073574 Report

Quoted By: >>34073595

>>34073506
>This is a meme theory made up by Richard
No it's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:56:05 No.34073580 Report

Quoted By: >>34073598

>>34073557
>Cosmog is a UB therefor Richard is right
You gave away your autism at "anime"
Also I said it isn't canon. We have 0 factual sources stating it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:57:14 No.34073595 Report

Quoted By: >>34073728

>>34073574
Yes it was. He insisted that the dex entry (Which explicitly says "resembles" a UB, which implies it isn't) and that the Pokédex never lies and therefor it's a UB

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:57:22 No.34073598 Report

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>>34073580
>Cosmog is a UB therefor Richard is right
Said no one ever, still in denial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 18:59:28 No.34073631 Report

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>>34073598
>Cosmog is called a UB
>Cosmog and Necrozma have things in common
That was your evidence. Richard claimed Necrozma is a UB. Sorry, you're right. What you claimed was
>Cosmog is a UB
>Cosmog and Necrozma have things in common (Wew almost like they fuse)
>Therefor Necrozma is a UB
>Therefor Richard is right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 19:02:59 No.34073709 Report

Quoted By: >>34073789

>>34072599
>>34072569
Zygarde has shit offenses, those two are not going to be OU.
They'll probably be outclassed by their vanilla counterparts, but they're not OU material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 19:03:35 No.34073728 Report

Quoted By: >>34073807

>>34073595
He didn't come up with it there were many people who saw the parallels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 19:07:42 No.34073789 Report

Quoted By: >>34073982

>>34073709
OU is full of mons with huge offensive stats and passable speed nowdays, these Necrozma formes aren't exactly groundbreaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 19:08:38 No.34073807 Report

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>>34073728
There are many people who saw the parallels between the moon landing and the Shining too.
That doesn't make anyone who agrees that those parallels mean that Stanley Kubrick faked the moon landing any less retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 19:14:44 No.34073909 Report

Quoted By: >>34073944

>>34073807
Keep being wrong, denialfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 19:16:48 No.34073944 Report

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>>34073909
>Denialfag being stretched to mean doesn't subsrcibe to literal headcanon
Keep telling yourself that anon. But you just sound buttblasted that you were a BTFO'd denialfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 19:19:51 No.34073982 Report

Quoted By: >>34074196 >>34074948 >>34075156 >>34075353

>>34073789
How many non-mega mons in OU have >600 BST?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 19:32:46 No.34074196 Report

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>>34073982
Ash Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:10:53 No.34074948 Report

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>>34073982
Kyurem-B with 700 BST

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:15:25 No.34075050 Report

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>>34073190

you dont have to "deal" with it. stop buying these games until GF shows you some consideration. retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:16:56 No.34075088 Report

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>>34072699
It will probably go to whichever stat has more IVs then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:17:22 No.34075101 Report

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>>34073190
And look at how those 2 ended up. UU and RU respectivally

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:17:45 No.34075111 Report

Quoted By: >>34075215 >>34075376 >>34075625 >>34076462

>>34072428
Absolutely Physical. This thing is automatically ubers and it needs Sunsteel Strike as the necessary coverage to take out Xearnes.

Ultra Necrozma can' have both Moongiest Beam and Sunsteel Strike because Necrozma only obtain those moves upon merging, and then loses them when splitting. Simliar to how Kyruem can't have both Fusion Bolt and Fusion Flare simultaneously.

I'd imagine a set would go along the lines of
Dusk Mane Necrozma @ Ultranecrozium Z
Ability: Prism Armor -> Neuroforce
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 speed
Jolly Nature
- Photo Geyser
- Sunsteel Strike
- Earthquake
- Filler

Max Speed/Attack to make full use of those offenses.
Photo Geyeser is goto STAB
Sunsteel Strike + Dusk Mane absolutely necessary to take out Xearnas before transforming. Even when transformed it can do half to any variant of God Deer.
Earthquake to deter any steel types
And then whatever additional coverage to aid in destroying the other team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:19:17 No.34075156 Report

Quoted By: >>34076141

>>34073982
Black Kyurem comes to mind, but that's mainly because
>Ice-Type
>No reliable physical Ice STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:21:52 No.34075215 Report

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>>34075111
Do we know how powerful Neuroforce is yet? It could be really important for coverage.
And I guess Brick Break or Stone Edge would be ideal for that last spot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:28:30 No.34075353 Report

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>>34073982
Kyurem, Greninjash, Hoopa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:29:39 No.34075376 Report

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>>34075111
Outrage/Swords Dance for the last slot, probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:39:57 No.34075590 Report

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>>34072569
Dusk Mane looks like a terrifying bulky tank with Choice Band and Dawn Wings tears balance and stall to shreds with sub-cm or Specs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:41:26 No.34075625 Report

Quoted By: >>34075687

>>34075111
How does it deal with Yveltal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 20:45:36 No.34075687 Report

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>>34075625
Stone Edge/Rock Slide for the filler then, though it would probably be better to leave it to another team mate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:08:21 No.34076071 Report

Quoted By: >>34076234

>>34072428
What's the story reasoning behind this thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:12:37 No.34076141 Report

Quoted By: >>34076709

>>34075156
It has Ice punch now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:15:52 No.34076187 Report

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>>34072428
What's a good nickname for this glorious motherfucker?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:17:52 No.34076234 Report

Quoted By: >>34076457 >>34076505

>>34076071
See >>34075454 >>34074483
It's Necrozma's original form, the black Necrozma is a depowered form and the eclipe forms are Necrozma's attempts to recover its original power. At the end, you need Nebby's light AND Necrozma's crystal to make him recover its light dragon form. Like a primal reversion but using light energy instead nature energy and triggered by Necrozma's Z move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:18:22 No.34076247 Report

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>>34076187
Nebby

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:19:20 No.34076268 Report

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>>34076187
SolarShit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:21:04 No.34076307 Report

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>>34072428
Is there a comprehensive list of everything new we know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:21:24 No.34076314 Report

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>>34076187
Makapō/Makapoh/Makapou, hawaiian for "blinding"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:22:30 No.34076339 Report

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>>34076187
Soldraceo
Lunadra

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:24:56 No.34076382 Report

Quoted By: >>34076523 >>34076914

>>34076187
Kars

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:25:40 No.34076402 Report

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>>34076187
Belial after the OG light thief

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:28:25 No.34076457 Report

Quoted By: >>34077348

>>34076234
Why did it lose power, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:28:47 No.34076462 Report

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>>34075111
Someone will try bluffing as physical Dusk Mane or special Dawn Wings, since Ultra has the same special and physical attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:30:36 No.34076490 Report

Quoted By: >>34076543

>>34076187
Yaldabaoth

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:31:20 No.34076505 Report

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>>34076234
Well I mean does the fact that it has a true form have any part in the plot? Or is its item and stuff relegated to event shit like Arceus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:32:39 No.34076523 Report

Quoted By: >>34077306

>>34076382
IS THAT A

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:33:40 No.34076543 Report

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>>34076490
Fuck off Egil

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:36:27 No.34076591 Report

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>>34076187
Luminoth

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:42:24 No.34076709 Report

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>>34076141
No it doesn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:46:22 No.34076781 Report

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I love how it learns Signal Beam just to fuck up any dark type that tries to tank the Z move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:53:15 No.34076914 Report

Quoted By: >>34077306

>>34076382
is that a MOTHERFUCKING jojo reference

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 21:57:19 No.34076996 Report

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>>34076187
Vivanova

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 22:02:36 No.34077087 Report

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>>34076187
Takanuva

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 22:12:35 No.34077306 Report

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>>34076523
>>34076914
>Ultimate life form
>Power is light
>Transforms mid battle
>Lore states originally buried underground
>Lost most of their power at the start of the story but still pretty strong
>Gets entraped by ice/crystal
There are a lot of ties between the two

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 22:14:24 No.34077348 Report

Quoted By: >>34078146

>>34076457
People from its world got greedy and tried to suck off even more power and Necrozma got basically crippled. The tower purpose is satiate Necrozma for its hunger of light but they can't mantain it anymore so soon Necrozma will go wild and look for another great source of light on other worlds (Nebby)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 22:16:51 No.34077391 Report

Quoted By: >>34077543

>>34072428

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 22:24:55 No.34077543 Report

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>>34076187
>>34077391
Catbat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 22:27:41 No.34077584 Report

Quoted By: >>34078188 >>34078348

Does anywhere in the leaks , mention how strong this thing is lore-wise? One would think it would be second if not equal to Arceus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 22:58:03 No.34078146 Report

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>>34077348
So the reason why Ultra Megalopolis is a blackout and everyone is albino is because they've been desperate to keep it alive but under their control?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 23:00:26 No.34078188 Report

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>>34077584
Most things are already stronger than arceus, Arceus is a creator not a destroyer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 23:08:53 No.34078348 Report

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>>34077584
>keep it alive but under their control
You mean Necrozma? They cant' control it, it's just calmed down. Without a source of light Necrozma would run wild so they keep feeding him. They can't mantain it forever so at the end Necrozma goes for Nebby to recover its light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 23:10:27 No.34078370 Report

Quoted By: >>34078394

>>34072428
Can this come from a NerozmaS/L?
Huge if real

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 23:11:41 No.34078394 Report

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>>34078370
It only can from a Necrozma S/L. Base Necrozma lacks of light so can't transform into its original light form

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 23:19:09 No.34078550 Report

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>>34076187
Varg

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 00:22:16 No.34079681 Report

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>>34072939
>What are coverage moves?
The damage boost applies to all its moves, not just the STAB moves, otherwise, they would just give it Adapability, dummy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 00:25:47 No.34079744 Report

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>>34076187
YHVH
Yaldabaoth
Merkabah
Uriel
Ohr Ein Sof

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 00:26:48 No.34079765 Report

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>>34076187
crobat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 00:29:43 No.34079820 Report

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>>34076187
Kagutsuchi
Kizaru
Yaldabaoth
Blinding One

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