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Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 17:34:18 No.34091250 View View Reply Original Report

>Ash-Greninja can now use Gunk Shot and Low Kick

Will it be S tier now?
I wished Tapu fini was still popular, but at least Tangrowth won't be such a counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 17:38:32 No.34091316 Report

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oh fuck i forgot about this
i'd be shocked if it didn't go to S

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 17:40:49 No.34091357 Report

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>>34091250

Time to abuse that 145 Attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 17:42:14 No.34091389 Report

Quoted By: >>34091449

hope that ugly frog is banned immediately

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 17:46:02 No.34091449 Report

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>>34091389
>poor anon face
Where did the frog touched you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 18:03:34 No.34091770 Report

Quoted By: >>34091825 >>34091847

>>34091250
I thought it was established that Protean Greninja was stronger than Ash-Greninja when it uses non-STAB attacks? If Greninja ain't banned, Ash-Greninja won't either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 18:08:25 No.34091825 Report

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>>34091770
almost same output when Ash-Greninja change forms with non-STAB

Ash-Greninja is still A+ While protean one is A

Problem is spikes (even with specs) is too good on Ash-Greninja.
Gunkshot could be nice for tangrowth/other fairies but still

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Nov 2017 18:10:16 No.34091847 Report

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>>34091770
Ash-Greninja is now way better offensively than Protean Frog.

Protean variation is now only good for double hazards.

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