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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 06:57:25 No.34194345 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34194352 >>34194378 >>34194382 >>34194720 >>34194780 >>34194802 >>34194841 >>34194867 >>34195040 >>34195043 >>34195049 >>34195059 >>34195060 >>34195093 >>34195110 >>34195437 >>34195481 >>34196896 >>34197120

> Yellow is an enhanced Red & Blue
> Crystal is an enhanced Gold & Silver
> Emerald is an enhanced Ruby & Sapphire
> Platinum is an enhanced Diamond & Pearl

> USUM is an enhanced Sun & Moon

WHAT??!? USUM ISN'T AN ENTIRELY FUCKING NEW GAME!?!?

OOOoooooOOoooOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 06:58:38 No.34194352 Report

Quoted By: >>34194382 >>34195066 >>34196896

>>34194345
Too many fucking kids here who were too young to remember third versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 07:02:17 No.34194378 Report

Quoted By: >>34194382 >>34194841 >>34195145

>>34194345

This needs to be stickied for the next two weeks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 07:03:22 No.34194382 Report

Quoted By: >>34194396

>>34194345
>>34194352
>>34194378
>durrr wats a DLC????

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 07:05:58 No.34194396 Report

Quoted By: >>34194428

>>34194382

> we patched ur gam

> story is different now

> just uh

> restart

cum-guzzling tard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 07:11:06 No.34194425 Report

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Too long without a third version, people forgot what it's like

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 07:11:52 No.34194428 Report

Quoted By: >>34194442 >>34195068

>>34194396
>duurrr wats a post-game episode????

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 07:14:52 No.34194442 Report

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>>34194428
The URS story seriously felt like a post game episode they just crammed into the main game, so RR could be the post game episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:03:33 No.34194720 Report

Quoted By: >>34194730

>>34194345
People only tolerated third versions because they would offer much needed improvements, but after two generations without them people were happy to see them go.

With USUM, not only is the third version back, but it's been split into two versions and the enhancements are fucking nothing.

So yes, to answer your image OP, you are as retarded as you look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:05:42 No.34194730 Report

Quoted By: >>34194774 >>34194806 >>34194875

>>34194720
>people were happy to see them go
Were you not here for the initial backlash at BW2 for not being a third version, or the outcry that there was no Z? You're either an underage newfag or trying to revise history to support your point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:13:03 No.34194774 Report

Quoted By: >>34196599

>>34194730
People were mad at B2W2 because it interrupted "muh patterns" and they thought it might have been a third version split into two just like USUM.

Only a few people wanted Z, and that is because there was no main game in 2015 and people were desperate for anything.

Are you too young to remember how people complained when Emerald and Platinum were announced? Or the complete lack of enthusiasm for Crystal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:14:14 No.34194780 Report

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>>34194345
How much new content did SM add compared to Gens 2-5, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:17:05 No.34194802 Report

Quoted By: >>34194812

>>34194345
The best part is what happened to DP and Platinum.
DP have a basically game breaking bug that makes the HP bars go slow as fuck (HP goes down at the same speed, do the more HP you have the worse it is), should we release a patch for it? Nope, let's sell a new game with that as selling point.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:18:28 No.34194806 Report

Quoted By: >>34194850

>>34194730
>Were you not here for the initial backlash at BW2
I was here and you weren't.
We were ecstatic over BW2 being sequels. A third version split in two like USUM was what we fucking DREADED.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:19:13 No.34194812 Report

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>>34194802
>DS game
>patch
Good way to reveal that you started with the 3DS, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:25:04 No.34194841 Report

Quoted By: >>34195156 >>34195505 >>34195531

>>34194345
>>34194378
t. literal morons that don't understand why people don't like USUM. It's not because they're not entirely new games, asshats, it's because they're poorly made. They remove features and story, don't fix the problems of the originals, forces a completely different story into the original without bothering to make them actually work together, resulting in many plotholes and flaws, and half the new stuff they made is nothing but even more genwun pandering, with the other half being a minigames, one of which literally no one gives a shit about based on a feature from the originals no one liked, and another being a sloppily implemented Hoopa catchathon paste from ORAS. The main selling point of these games are Ultra Space and Megalopolis, none of which were refined or expanded upon enough to make them feel worthwhile. Instead of getting actual new areas with actual new Pokémon/forms, we instead get small empty hallways with old Pokémon encounter that make literally zero sense to even exist. If USUM hadn't felt like it was rushed and focused more on the actual features in presented than selling more Pikachu toys, people wouldn't be bitching about them being bad games. It has nothing to do with them being third versions or not entirely new games. It's because they're bad, end of story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:26:38 No.34194850 Report

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>>34194806
I don't know about you, but the initial reaction I saw was:
>why didn't we get gray, why are there two of them
>kyurem fusions, why
>we digimon now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:27:20 No.34194855 Report

Quoted By: >>34195157

Did yellow actually fix any Gen 1 problems?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:28:31 No.34194864 Report

Quoted By: >>34197144

Yellow was a gimmick.

I was severely disappointed with Crystal when I played it as a kid.

I skipped Emerald due to my experience with Crystal.

Platinum is not that much better than DP as people here say.

I didn't like these lazy cash grab "enhanced" versions then and I don't now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:29:24 No.34194867 Report

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>>34194345
Emerald and Platinum did a lot more good for their games than USUM did for SM. I'd even argue Yellow and Crystal did it better, and even if they didn't they were the earliest iterations of the concept, while Game Freak has had 20 years to learn what to do with a third version and they fucked up anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 08:31:08 No.34194875 Report

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>>34194730
The reason I wanted Z was because XY are shit but have potential to be redeemed, and Platinum proved that with enough love you can turn a bad game into a good one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:11:05 No.34195040 Report

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>>34194345
Besides the fact that Ultra Sun and Moon are two more versions, and not just one, there's also the fact that it's 2017. Standards change over time. If Red and Blue were released today, they'd get slated.

Just look at XY, it didn't get a third version. Because people didn't want one. And now somehow, we've ended up with not just a third version, but multiple versions again. It's clearly a money grab, and an insult to anyone that purchased the original Sun/Moon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:12:41 No.34195043 Report

Quoted By: >>34195058

>>34194345
You forgot
>B2W2 is a changed and enhanced BW

And
>USUM is an enhanced Sun & Moon
No it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:13:48 No.34195049 Report

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>>34194345
woah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:14:58 No.34195058 Report

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>>34195043
Yep, I'm sure everyone would have been more than pleased if USUM were sequels and not just rehashes of the same games that they already played and hated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:15:01 No.34195059 Report

Quoted By: >>34195083

>>34194345
It's got minor story changes and a new postgame quest.

You can call it an enhanced version, I call it paying full price for DLC. And that shit's not acceptable in this day and age. Every other third version existed either before DLC, or before DLC was standard for every game.

Also, you conveniently forgot that BW2 were sequels, and there was no third version in Gen 6. Because third versions are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:15:02 No.34195060 Report

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>>34194345
HOLY SHIIIIIIIT!!!

KIDS who are too young to remember 3rd versions please stop posting and trying to start debates/arguments about how "USUM Isn't Shit, Isth really guuud".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:17:04 No.34195066 Report

Quoted By: >>34195147

>>34194352
Damn kids are always ungrateful with their video games, back in my days we just had a stick and anyone asking for 2 sticks was beaten with the big stick

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:17:32 No.34195068 Report

Quoted By: >>34195104

>>34194428

i like how this guy keeps a folder of self-portraits on his computer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:22:00 No.34195083 Report

Quoted By: >>34195099 >>34195107

>>34195059

> this dumb fuck doesn't realize that a lot of people anticipate a third version, and skip the first set of games in a new generation

> this dumb fuck doesn't realized he doesn't have to buy all the games

> this dumb fuck has no reading comprehension, and misunderstands why OP included/excluded things

poor bastard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:23:23 No.34195093 Report

Quoted By: >>34195112

>>34194345
I think that it's not entirely that /vp/ hates USUM

I think it's that as A GEN it delivered less than it's predecessors, and very poorly.

No postgame... 2nd gen in a row.

Again, RELATIVE TO TIME the games were released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:24:44 No.34195099 Report

Quoted By: >>34195116

>>34195083
>this dumbfuck doesn't realize that gen 6 had no third version

>this dumbfuck doesn't realize that gen 5 has no third game

>this dumbfuck doesn't realize that most people noticed that and didn't expect the same bullshit to return after 2 gens without it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:25:29 No.34195104 Report

Quoted By:

>>34195068
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:25:39 No.34195107 Report

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>>34195083
>implying "a lot of people" aren't sheep who'll just buy anything regardless of the shitty business practices involved

>implying I bought USUM

>implying OP has a leg to stand on when he purposefully excludes certain games to make it seem like his argument has any weight

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:26:42 No.34195110 Report

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>>34194345
Okay now explain, what content did Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum remove from their previous games?
USUM:
>Lusamine's superior story
>Anabel/Looker's UB mission sidequests
>No longer fighting Kukui as the champion
There was no reason this needed to be 2 versions other than cash grabbing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:27:07 No.34195112 Report

Quoted By: >>34195155 >>34195182

>>34195093

I think that Game Freak could literally include a second game on a separate continent after the first Elite Four victory (ala GSC), and people would still bitch NO POSTGAME REEEEEEE

What even is a post-game? You've got 800 critters to nab, RR to fight, Ultra Wormholes to explore, and battle facilities to earn ribbons/points in. These thirsty autistic shitlords will never be satisfied

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:28:14 No.34195116 Report

Quoted By: >>34195128 >>34195136

>>34195099

Ability to Read: 0/10

Autism: 4/5

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:30:28 No.34195128 Report

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>>34195116
Then please explain why anyone was expecting a third version this time when we didn't have it for 2 gens

People that skipped XY for Z were given nothing so it would be dumb for those people to do the exact same thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:32:17 No.34195136 Report

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>>34195116
>this dumbfuck would've paid $80 for Darth Vader and tried to justify it with shitposts
>this dumbfuck probably bought Ultra Sun AND Ultra Moon

Give it up, Anon. Sometimes game publishers are just shitty. Learn to be a savvy consumer and stop sucking the industry's dick. Maybe find yourself a non-gaming hobby, while you're at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:34:09 No.34195145 Report

Quoted By:

>>34194378
I agree with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:34:46 No.34195147 Report

Quoted By:

>>34195066
That's when we didn't have to pay for games ourselves though OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:36:43 No.34195155 Report

Quoted By:

>>34195112
ummmm I've been here a while. I don't think I've ever seen /vp/ this upset since ORAS. This shit is bad though.

Nah dude maybe with GSC 'another region' type postgame they wouldn't bitch AS much (they find something to bitch about in everygame).

But I'm with'em on USUM this shit is inexcusable being 2017 with all the tech and money GF and Nintendo have. It's seriously, SuMo with a 20 min. episode and Hoopa holes from ORAS. If we want Legends most of us can transfer'em from bank, there is little to nothing to do for postgame beside WIFI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:36:50 No.34195156 Report

Quoted By: >>34195210 >>34195523

>>34194841

> literally the best games in the series yet

> this nigga calls them "poorly made"

Anon there is more to life than pocket monsters. Like, 99% of people who'll buy USUM are happy to just catch some cool mons, make it through most of the story, and have some fond memories of their time. Most of them passed on SuMo for reasons like having a life outside of pokeman, and USUM is a nice way to come back to the series if the time is right for them.

Meanwhile, your obsessed ass is writing essays on 4chan in the middle of the night about how a game designed for 11-year-old kids didn't meet your lofty expectations.

If you've been following pokemon for so long, you should have known what USUM would have to offer, and be content with not buying them if they aren't worth the money for you (like any non-autist)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:37:01 No.34195157 Report

Quoted By:

>>34194855
No, just added more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:41:35 No.34195182 Report

Quoted By:

>>34195112
>B-but e-even i-if th-they d-did a-add p-p-post g-game p-p-people w-would s-s-still c-c-complain, g-g-guys!
You're reaching a little there Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 09:46:11 No.34195210 Report

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>>34195156
>people aren't allowed to have an opinion on anything
Just because you find it challenging to form an opinion and type out a paragraph of text, doesn't mean everyone does Anon.

The world would be a mediocre place if people didn't care about things. Ignorance is bliss though, yeah?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 10:35:26 No.34195437 Report

Quoted By:

>>34194345
BW2 was a squeal and people think we've moved "past" the need to have 3rd versions. So typical autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 10:43:20 No.34195481 Report

Quoted By:

>>34194345
People are still defending USUM? holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 10:46:15 No.34195505 Report

Quoted By:

>>34194841
THIS needs to be stickied for the next two weeks

I hope you don't mind if I start copy pasting everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 10:49:33 No.34195523 Report

Quoted By:

>>34195156
>Challenging

Anon, I played in set mode without exp share nor amie, the games only get decenrly challenging once you get to Aether Paradise (the second time). The rest of the game is piss easy
You are just bad

Also
>If the game is hard is the best game in the series
looks like DP are masterpieces then

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 10:51:12 No.34195531 Report

Quoted By: >>34196011 >>34196040

>>34194841

Not to mention DLC exists now, and there was no reason for these to be split in 2

Gamefreak is now quadruple dipping which only happened before with gen 5, but gen 5 had a lot more effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 11:19:38 No.34195710 Report

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wow it's almost like we haven't gotten a third version since platinum and we haven't gotten a third version with less than 50 hours of added content since crystal and that the concept of splitting the third version is utterly retarded and just screams "we want money" even worse than third versions already did

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 12:01:01 No.34196011 Report

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>>34195531
Gen 5 was a sequel that was a completely different experience so it's a little different

USUM is the first 3rd version to actually be split in 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 12:06:43 No.34196040 Report

Quoted By: >>34196702

>>34195531
>you buy one game
>your friend buys the other
You do have friends, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 13:03:23 No.34196365 Report

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So glad I pirated. This isn't worth a buy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 13:52:45 No.34196599 Report

Quoted By:

>>34194774
>Only a few people wanted Z, and that is because there was no main game in 2015 and people were desperate for anything.
And XY were markedly unfinished.

Which is why I wanted USUM to happen too. With the exception of yellow, 3rd version (are SUPPOSED to) finish the game.
But XY never got it's 3rd, so it lies permenantly unfinished, and USUM still doesn't fix SM which is insult to injury.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 14:12:04 No.34196702 Report

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>>34196040
Friends or not there is no reason for USUM to be 2 games.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 14:44:40 No.34196896 Report

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>>34194345
>>34194352
I think what the majority of people are upset about are the steps backwards gamefreak is taking. Like for gen 5, they offered us not only a third version but a sequel adding tons of new shit. So when new gens come out everyone is excited to see what gamefreak will do next after what black 2 white 2 offered. Instead we get no third installment (gen 6), and when we finally do get one, it's going back the route of earlier games after the franchise was already evolving. To add salt to the wound, they release 2 third installments trying to milk us even more

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 15:25:20 No.34197120 Report

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>>34194345
Gee, it's almost as as USUM, on top of not actually fixing any shit from SM, decided that instead of a 'third version' they'd milk their autistic manchild fanbase for what little they're worth and split an already meager update into TWO versions for them to buy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 15:26:49 No.34197130 Report

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I haven't played Sun or Moon yet, will I love the Ultra games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 15:29:18 No.34197140 Report

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Face it, most people don't put hundreds upon hundreds of hours into Pokemon games.
The average normie will be far more impressed at being able to rebattle all the old villains, capture all the old legendaries and fly through space.
It's just the sad reality. I'm surprised we got the battle agency as is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 15:29:55 No.34197144 Report

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>>34194864
>Platinum is not that much better than DP as people here say.
So you didn't actually play it, cool.

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