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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:14:31 No.34199760 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34199789 >>34199804 >>34199829 >>34199961 >>34200100 >>34200604 >>34200907 >>34202093 >>34202158

>sets up Trick Room
>wins
Apologize now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:17:25 No.34199779 Report

Quoted By: >>34199877 >>34199906 >>34199933

>wall it for 3-4 turns
Nice.

It barely hits as hard as an Autotomize Heavy Slam Celesteela but has a MUCH worse typing and MUCH less utility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:18:42 No.34199789 Report

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>>34199760
I gotta admit it's actually kind of a tricky thing to play against. You never expect Gyro Ball to hit as hard as it does

That said when the meta settles in it will drop like a brick. Poor thing loses to bulky Waters badly, not to mention 2 4x weaknesses to Fighting and Ground of all things

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:21:27 No.34199804 Report

Quoted By: >>34199846 >>34199905 >>34200295 >>34200369

>>34199760
>Switch vikavolt into the gyro ball
>Switch Hitmonlee into the following stone edge
>press fake out/protect
>press high jump kick

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:24:49 No.34199829 Report

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>>34199760
>implying it won't die before it gets the chance to use Trick Room

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:26:01 No.34199846 Report

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>>34199804
>vikavolt
>Hitmonlee
Already preparing for the tier drop, eh?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:27:14 No.34199856 Report

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>gf keeps making trick room mons
>without making trick room support

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:27:19 No.34199857 Report

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>>34199846
Already been discussing it with others, NU is a good spot for it, lots of stuff can deal with it there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:31:25 No.34199877 Report

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>>34199779
>150 BP move coming off a base 131 attack hits barely as hard as 120 BP move coming off a base 101 attack
So this is the power of /vp/...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:31:39 No.34199880 Report

Quoted By: >>34199887

When is rock going to get a rework to its weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:32:58 No.34199887 Report

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>>34199880
At the same time Ice does.
so never

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:35:33 No.34199905 Report

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>>34199804
>hitmonlee kept going and crashed
>stakataka used gyro ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:35:43 No.34199906 Report

Quoted By: >>34199948

>>34199779
>It barely hits as hard as an Autotomize Heavy Slam Celesteela but has a MUCH worse typing and MUCH less utility.
>0 Atk Celesteela Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gastly: 319-376 (158.7 - 187%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>252+ Atk Bastiodon Gyro Ball (150 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gastly: 666-784 (331.3 - 390%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Stakataka's Gyro Ball does more than twice of what Celesteela's Heavy Slam does.
Celesteela is still better, but Stakataka deals way more damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:36:05 No.34199907 Report

Quoted By: >>34199927 >>34199930 >>34199947

Ground needs to stop being weak to water
Rock needs to stop being weak to ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:39:06 No.34199927 Report

Quoted By: >>34200168

>>34199907
ground's fine.
Rock should be neutral to water, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:39:32 No.34199930 Report

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>>34199907
>Making ground that much better
Wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:39:58 No.34199933 Report

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>>34199779
Physical autotomize Celesteela gets walled hard by certain mons like Ferro and opposing Celesteela, whereas Staka can break past most of them with Z Stone Edge or Superpower. Gyro Ball also hits a lot harder than Heavy Slam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:41:56 No.34199947 Report

Quoted By: >>34200425

>>34199907
>buffing Ground
Ground isn't bad, jackass. Rock is defensively bad and that's it. Neither of them really need buffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:42:05 No.34199948 Report

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>>34199906
If it's autotomize and running heavy slam, it's probably 252 attack Evs and adamant, but yes, that anon was stupid to think celesteela's heavy slam was better

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 21:43:39 No.34199961 Report

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>>34199760

teheh.. useless stakataka

>*switches to fighting mon on the turn staka sets up trick room*
>no you will know the true power of priority..!! nothing pehsonnel kid..!
>*uses mach punch*
>stakataka switched to life orb reuniclus!
>m..masaka..!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:02:37 No.34200100 Report

Quoted By: >>34200139 >>34200358 >>34200470

>>34199760

2018, still no trick room extender, still no auto set up, still no usability for slow mon

the worst game company I ever seen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:06:53 No.34200128 Report

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>Still no "Interior Decorator" Item which makes room moves last 8 turns
If you're gonna keep adding Trick Meme mons you need to add some other support, GameFreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:07:46 No.34200139 Report

Quoted By: >>34200155 >>34200180

>>34200100
Auto Trick Room would be hilariously overpowered

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:09:49 No.34200155 Report

Quoted By: >>34200174 >>34200176

>>34200139

oh wow, what a difference to power creep sanic mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:11:51 No.34200168 Report

Quoted By: >>34200182 >>34200621

>>34199927
>Rock should be neutral to water, though.
You do realize that rock gets worn down and eroded by water, right? Look at the Grand Canyon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:12:15 No.34200174 Report

Quoted By: >>34200871 >>34201837

>>34200155
The problem is that it isn't an M16 taking on an AK47, it's Rock taking on Scissors. The game is just going to become a game of
> Offense beats Defense
> Trick Room beats Offense
> Defense beats Trick Room
> Stall is Spock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:12:29 No.34200176 Report

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>>34200155
It is actually, the slow, fat Pokemon with sky high attack/spattack swap places with the fast, frail Pokemon with decent attack/spattack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:13:03 No.34200180 Report

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>>34200139
this

It would completely break the meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:13:17 No.34200182 Report

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>>34200168
Rock gets worn down and eroded by air, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:26:19 No.34200279 Report

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>sends out lando t

Sorry.. its nothing personal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:27:50 No.34200295 Report

Quoted By: >>34200304 >>34200333

>>34199804
Continental crush probably 1 shots hitmonchan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:28:52 No.34200304 Report

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>>34200295
Er.. hitmonlee. Same shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:30:56 No.34200333 Report

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>>34200295
Obviously, hitmonlee isn't even a defensive Pokemon, but the two Pokemon I used as examples don't even run any defensive EVs, NU is fulled with bulky waters including seismitoad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:32:47 No.34200358 Report

Quoted By: >>34200470

>>34200100

Auto trick room would make stall fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:33:36 No.34200369 Report

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>>34199804
>Stakataka staying in against a fighting or ground type after trick room wears off
Maybe if your opponent is retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:34:18 No.34200379 Report

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>>34200333
Regardless otr stacky is way too strong for anything below RU. Itll be BL2 probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:38:26 No.34200425 Report

Quoted By: >>34200895

>>34199947
The problem with Rock is that it’s set up as a defensive type yet it’s worthless as a defensive type. Same with Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:43:43 No.34200470 Report

Quoted By: >>34200735

>>34200358
>>34200100
Auto-TR is stupid as fuck but we could really use an item to extend it to 8 turns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:45:06 No.34200481 Report

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>>34200379
Except it isn't, NU is filled with Pokemon that can deal with it and things like siesmitoad just laugh at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:55:14 No.34200604 Report

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>>34199760
>The opponet sent out a bulky water type

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:55:21 No.34200606 Report

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>>34200481
Hell even PU has plenty of viable answers such as Mudsdale

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 22:57:07 No.34200621 Report

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>>34200168
not at the same rate as soft soil does

Not that type match-ups always makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 23:07:44 No.34200735 Report

Quoted By: >>34200774 >>34200789

>>34200470
this kids the offense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 23:11:39 No.34200774 Report

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>>34200735
kills*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 23:13:19 No.34200789 Report

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>>34200735
>7-turn meme meta
No thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 23:19:59 No.34200871 Report

Quoted By: >>34201802

>>34200174
Wouldnt that be an improvement?
Slow defensive types need to be viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 23:22:36 No.34200895 Report

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>>34200425
because its defensive against normal
GF expects kids to go with their tackles and experience how it doesnt work against rock but then you use almost anything else other than normal and wreck rock and the kid feels good.
But its not balanced at all for end game/competitive and it barely applies today with the huge pool of pokemon available from the startto anyone

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 23:24:16 No.34200907 Report

Quoted By: >>34200918 >>34200931 >>34201759 >>34201815

>>34199760
*stops your Sweep*
why does /vp/ love Stakataka so much?
I never seen /vp/ advocate this much for any shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 23:25:21 No.34200918 Report

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>>34200907
Because it's cute and it's a shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 23:27:04 No.34200931 Report

Quoted By: >>34200949

>>34200907
>why does /vp/ love Stakataka so much
I just really like the big bulk Pokemon.
I also really like Avalugg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2017 23:28:56 No.34200949 Report

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>>34200931
>I just really like the big bulk Pokemon.

Same it kind of sucks that I am forced to play stall to have a small chance and people hate me for it.
Its not my fault GF cant into balance, fast sweeper mons are just fucking boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 00:48:14 No.34201759 Report

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>>34200907
It's a massive fucking stone wall of eyes, how awesome is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 00:51:41 No.34201802 Report

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>>34200871
They are with stall :^)

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Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 00:53:19 No.34201815 Report

Quoted By: >>34201866

>>34200907
Leave the wall monster alone you bully.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 00:55:08 No.34201837 Report

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>>34200174
I see literally nothing wrong with this. Explain to me how this is a negative? Or how it's anywhere near different or worse than the current meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 00:57:46 No.34201866 Report

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>>34201815
That's fucking adorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:01:21 No.34201898 Report

Quoted By: >>34201911 >>34201917 >>34201974

I could see it being good only if there was a fast suicide TR setter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:02:42 No.34201911 Report

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>>34201898
Mimikyu can set it with its free disguise turn if that counts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:03:01 No.34201917 Report

Quoted By: >>34201938

>>34201898
why would you want something fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:04:28 No.34201938 Report

Quoted By: >>34201964

>>34201917
>fast suicide TR setter to set up TR then die
>send out Stakataka to spam Gyro Ball for 4 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:06:07 No.34201964 Report

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>>34201938
Trick Room has -7 priority Anon. A "fast" setter is just a waste of stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:07:51 No.34201974 Report

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>>34201898
Staka sets up Trick Room for itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:07:59 No.34201977 Report

Quoted By: >>34202047

If they ever make an auto trick room Pokemon, this thing is the most obvious candidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:14:00 No.34202047 Report

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>>34201977
>it's slow, which makes it obviously the best choice for a trick room ability!
No, not even reuniclus is a good candidate for such an ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:18:33 No.34202093 Report

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>>34199760
>Croagunk used vacuum wave

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Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:24:37 No.34202158 Report

Quoted By: >>34202230

>>34199760
As expected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2017 01:32:48 No.34202230 Report

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>>34202158
You mean that nobody has made an edit of that pic so it says Trump?

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