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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:31:57 No.34214284 View View Reply Original Report

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http://pokejungle.net/2017/11/18/amazon-reviews-are-tanking-for-ultra-sun-moon/

How do we feel about this, /vp?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:34:14 No.34214299 Report

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>>34214284
>pokejungle

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:35:34 No.34214312 Report

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>>34214284
>Pokejungle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:36:18 No.34214316 Report

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>>34214284
>giving a shit about amazon user reviews of all things
The games have gotten a critical reception similar to most pokémon games, which is tu say an 8/10.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:39:05 No.34214340 Report

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>>34214299
>>34214312
Not OP here ut what's the issue with Pokejungle?
I cant recall ever using the site

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:40:07 No.34214351 Report

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>>34214340
It's the Kotaku of pokémon fan sites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:40:13 No.34214354 Report

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>>34214340
>Literal who site
>Not just linking the amazon reviews or posting a screenshot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:40:48 No.34214356 Report

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>>34214316
there have more value then reviews from paid critcs who got the game for free

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:41:52 No.34214364 Report

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>>34214351
>>34214354
Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:43:18 No.34214375 Report

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>>34214356
To whom?
Game companies don't give a shit about user reviews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:43:27 No.34214377 Report

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>>34214356
USUM is a 3rd version, the only reason you buy third versions is because you're autistc or don't already own the 1st versions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:47:10 No.34214406 Report

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>>34214377
Or people who have more than $40 a year for games who want to play a third version

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:52:44 No.34214461 Report

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>>34214356
>paid critics
This has to be the biggest delusion anyone has about whether something is good or bad. At least say they have shit taste or something, come on.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:55:03 No.34214485 Report

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>>34214461
>site with Nintendo in its name
>gives it a perfect 100
No way reviews can be bought anon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 04:57:16 No.34214501 Report

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>>34214356
Explain the user reviews then. Are they all paid? Are they Russian bots?

Lily

Lily Sun 19 Nov 2017 05:14:05 No.34214652 Report

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>>34214501
americans are dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 05:17:27 No.34214679 Report

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>>34214284
The nips only hate it because they still can’t dick Rirrie-chan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 05:27:44 No.34214760 Report

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>>34214284
Many of the reviews can pretty much be summed up as "I bought a slightly updated version of a game I didn't like, and it turns out I still didn't like it!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 05:29:39 No.34214770 Report

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>>34214284
Did they anticipate this?

Kinda feels like they did this deliberately to soften the blow for killing the gen early.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 05:30:10 No.34214774 Report

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>>34214501
you see if the reviewers don't have my exact opinion on something they must be paid off to have their obviously wrong opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 05:43:45 No.34214863 Report

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>>34214284
Japanese players have a weird taste. Youkai Watch Shinuchi outsold Ganso/Honke and was praised in its native Japan even though it only added some pointless minigames and fetch quests. The story remained almost the same. Three years later, GF keeps it's tradition and releases the improved versions for SM and gets panned. Funnily enough, it was the exactly the opposite in the West.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:14:01 No.34215079 Report

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>>34214284
2ch raid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:20:17 No.34215110 Report

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>>34214863
Japan likes Youkai Watch and America likes Pokemon is what I'm getting here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:23:16 No.34215125 Report

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>>34214316
this, who the fuck cares about amazon reviews, half of them never get read and a good percentage of the rest are either trying to be funny, are works of satire, or just plain paranoid ramblings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:24:31 No.34215134 Report

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>>34214284
Indifferent, people are fickle and love to pretend their opinions matter. When the games sell less than 6 million copies I'll be impressed. Otherwise this is just whining. The writing was on the wall for USUM the moment they were revealed to be updated rereleases rather than sequels, if you still bought them and feel like you were "duped" then it's entirely your fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:25:33 No.34215139 Report

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>>34215110
Not really, Japan briefly liked Youkai Watch but it died down even over there. It didn't have Pokemon's staying power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:29:06 No.34215158 Report

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>>34214284
>over 50% of japanese reviews are 1 star
>over 50% of western reviews are 5 stars
I hate this fucking "hey I didn't hate it and it's part of a franchise I suck dick for so it's perfect" mentality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:29:43 No.34215163 Report

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>>34215134
>if you still bought them and feel like you were "duped" then it's entirely your fault.

What about "Ultra changes", "more changes than Emerald and Platinum", etc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:31:32 No.34215176 Report

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>>34214770
I think Nintendo told them back when they handed them their Switch Dev kit "we want a pokémon game for it within the first 2 years of its life". They were probably planning Z with an eye on building Alola in time and this threw a spanner in the works, so they switched gears, dropped Z, moved up to Alola, took the genesis of ideas for Gen VIII and started working on them seriously after getting S/M into full swing. I think they sacrificed their 3DS legacy, to get the Switch game out of the blocks running.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:32:17 No.34215180 Report

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>>34215158
I hate the " No battle frontier so its shit and has no postgame" Mentality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:34:06 No.34215194 Report

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>>34215163
>What about "Ultra changes", "more changes than Emerald and Platinum", etc?

All way too vague to put any faith in unless you're a slave to your own mindless consumerism. "Ultra change" literally sounds like a slogan/tagline and "more changes than Emerald and Platinum" is way too vague. It doesn't address what kind of changes they are, to what degree things are being changed, etc. This isn't a series that keeps many secrets prior to the release of a new game, they show almost everything for the sake of marketing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:35:55 No.34215209 Report

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>>34214284
>amazon reviews

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:37:55 No.34215226 Report

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>>34214863
This shit is more commonplace in Japanese games, from what I can tell.
Bravely Default has complaints of a slog of a middle? Re-release it with a few side-extra quests that give no real money or exp!
Fantasy Life is perfectly serviceable but has a kinda short story you can breeze through? Re-release with multiplayer capabilities and a post-story quest!
Wanna push some new toys that you can hook up to your game system? Re-release animal crossing with a few more furniture features!
These are the first few examples that came to my head, but I suspect this phenomen probably occurs with more than just Nintendo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:40:01 No.34215248 Report

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>>34215110
Yokai watch is dead as fuck. I swear it's like one autist shilling it all over this board

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:40:47 No.34215253 Report

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>>34214501
that's not that many users

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:45:58 No.34215296 Report

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>>34214501
>22
We could go tank the score if we wanted too, user reviews don't mean a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:46:10 No.34215298 Report

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Japanese Amazon does this a lot in general. There's a manga where one of the volumes got a swarm of 1 star reviews because the Japanese were angry the author doesn't release chapters more often. I wonder if it's an approach to reviewing where it's more common to review something/the producers as a whole vs. the product itself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:50:04 No.34215315 Report

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>>34214485
Anon, they literally do it for free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:52:50 No.34215334 Report

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>>34215226
How could you not immediately think of the Final Fantasy series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:55:33 No.34215352 Report

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>>34215334
I was trying to think of Nintendo specific examples when writing it, while final fantasy's fuckery covers multiple systems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 06:57:39 No.34215361 Report

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>>34214501
>Implying Russia isn't only bots and Putin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 07:00:01 No.34215370 Report

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It was expected. People knew a week ago USUM were shit. That wont likely change for many years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 07:04:31 No.34215402 Report

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>>34215226
Kinda same with Monster Hunter.
Release a base game and re-release it again with a G-rank the next year.
MH3->MH3G
MH4->MH4G
MHX/Generations->MHXX/MHXXNS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:05:54 No.34215710 Report

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>>34214284
He pretty much copied an article that reported on this earlier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:09:08 No.34215726 Report

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>>34214356
while normally true, this is Amazon Japan, they'll flood with 1 star reviews because they happened to get the boob jiggle wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:11:22 No.34215741 Report

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>>34215402
Tbf, with MH you get a shiton more than G-rank. They usually fix issues that were in the base game and chuck a few monsters in as well as g rank variants of armor. MHXX added a feature that lets you skinswap your armor which is pretty great as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:12:29 No.34215755 Report

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>>34215226
Are you speaking in hypotheticals?
>Fantasy Life is perfectly serviceable but has a kinda short story you can breeze through? Re-release with multiplayer capabilities and a post-story quest!
This never happened, Fantasy Life got an actual proper DLC story that boosted the level/skill cap, added a fuckhuge island, postgame bosses and made more characters recruitable. It was a genuinely good DLC that only cost like 9 bucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:15:05 No.34215776 Report

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I'm very happy. Japan has common sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:16:04 No.34215783 Report

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>>34215755
And the animal crossing thing was a free update.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:17:25 No.34215800 Report

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>>34214284
>pokejungle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:20:05 No.34215818 Report

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>>34215298
I don't follow JP Amazon for Pokemon stuff but they act like 4chan in terms of rating shit with their maturity level. It's a shitposting haven at times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:48:05 No.34215978 Report

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>>34214356
>>34215726
Aye, there were a number of games and anime that all got a 1-star because a VA was discovered to have been sleeping with some idol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:50:10 No.34215994 Report

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>>34214356
>don't drink diet soda, aspartame is literally poison
>drink this raw sewage instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:52:04 No.34216006 Report

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>>34214284
i liked it
just beat Giovanni tempted to restart and play again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 08:58:53 No.34216050 Report

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>>34215402
At least Monster Hunter adds tons of extra content to the point where it's almost not worth buying the first version.

USUM are the Pokemon equivalent of MHX.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:02:04 No.34216059 Report

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>>34216050
USUM is XX if anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:02:08 No.34216061 Report

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>>34216050
>new monsters are mostly recolors with one or two extra attacks
>added monsters are mostly shit that existed in past games that weren't in for whatever reason
it's literally the same shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:05:40 No.34216078 Report

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>>34216050
G versions only add two new monsters (flagship and final boss)+subspecies/deviants (which you may not consider new monsters)+returning monsters which the vast majority of times are copypasted from the previous gen without revamps and no new moves. It's the same as third versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:09:37 No.34216097 Report

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>>34216050
alot of games does this
more so with games with DLC then they release the full edition later Dark souls,Street fighter etc etc

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:11:42 No.34216111 Report

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You gotta look at how people said this was helpful. Maybe they stop them from buying it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:19:08 No.34216137 Report

Quoted By: >>34216164

>>34216111
Likely those reviews are also being rated by the people giving 1-star reviews.
It's the same pattern with other otaku amazon crusades.
Like Bleach manga reviews after the ending, or the aforementioned VA sleeping with the idol above

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:24:16 No.34216164 Report

Quoted By: >>34216170

>>34216137
Doesn't happen to mario, Zelda, splatoon. You actually read the complients. Rather just 1 star. That dude who wrote that it was a paragraph long

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:25:16 No.34216170 Report

Quoted By: >>34216178

>>34216164
those weren't targets of bizarre amazon jp crusades though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:27:01 No.34216178 Report

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>>34216170
Bizarre? People don't like that game. So they are voicing there opinions. Everybody aint a schill like you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:30:17 No.34216208 Report

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>>34215209
This. /vp/ is full of retarded newfags that don't know about amazon.jp memeing.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3-%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8F%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC4G/dp/B00LSLNYBW/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1422281472&sr=1-1

See how many 1-star that got despite being the best game in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:31:33 No.34216219 Report

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>>34216050
>USUM are the Pokemon equivalent of MHX.
Did you want to say MHXX instead?

And yeah no, it never does that anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:31:42 No.34216220 Report

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>>34216178
sorry, my man, you're pinning all your hopes on a goddamn meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:46:43 No.34216302 Report

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For fuck's sake, just give it to me straight already. I'm aware of the cons like no battle frontier/PWT and I'm disappointed by the story being largely the same, but are there any positives at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:48:29 No.34216312 Report

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>>34216302
No there are none. Even rainbow rocket is shit like delta episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:51:04 No.34216322 Report

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>>34216302
somewhat increased difficulty
SOS less frequent and for certain mons do not happen at all unless you andrenaline orb them (as far as I can tell, all babies still SOS frequently and indefinitely)
story doesn't really diverge by much until later

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:54:07 No.34216338 Report

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>>34216322
Please tell me Bellossom finally got added to the Alolan Pokedex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:55:40 No.34216346 Report

Quoted By: >>34216353

>>34216338
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:56:38 No.34216353 Report

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>>34216346
...any other pros or am I better off finding them myself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:57:48 No.34216358 Report

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>>34216353
It's subjective to me. I don't enjoy game and I regret buying. I could only speak for myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:59:06 No.34216366 Report

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>>34214356
>paid critics
Maybe some of them, but most of them straight up do it for free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 10:02:44 No.34216374 Report

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>>34216353
mostly little things so far, honestly. It really just is a lot like Platinum to DP, except there really weren't as many glaring flaws to fix.
But honestly if you already bought the games, just play through it and see for yourself. You know this place tends to hate whatever is the newest games anyway. I mean I've been here long enough to know that this place tends to over exaggerate negatives.

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