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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:00:47 No.34233182 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34233222 >>34233223 >>34233239 >>34233263 >>34233504 >>34233529 >>34235518 >>34235546

You know, Totem Pokemon feel like a good step in the right direction with making 'bosses' for you to fight. I hope they improve upon it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:03:55 No.34233219 Report

Quoted By: >>34233251 >>34233274 >>34233563 >>34233571 >>34235513

you're right, there's only so much you can do with a trainer battle when it's one on one and the retarded AI has to make do

totem pokemon have the potential to be harder because they essentially cheat

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:03:59 No.34233222 Report

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>>34233182
Nah, Gamefreak won't improve upon it. They will remove the concept by Gen 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:04:00 No.34233223 Report

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>>34233182
They'll just bring back gyms in Gen 8 and remove Totem battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:05:01 No.34233232 Report

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>>34233223
normies liked it
so, who knows

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:05:31 No.34233239 Report

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>>34233182

Snip snip

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:06:26 No.34233251 Report

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>>34233219
Is this supposed to be sarcasm or?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:07:02 No.34233263 Report

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>>34233182
Yeah, they are a fair bit more challenging then gyms to because for some reason game freak has decided that if any encounter has more than one pokemon it in, they basically have to make every pokemon magikarp or rattata.

Totems are a genuine challenge if you arent abusing Z-moves, though I guess thats the point and when they inevitably remove Z-moves next gen, they will have to baby-ify the "bosses" in the next gen as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:07:53 No.34233274 Report

Quoted By: >>34233368 >>34233530 >>34233568

>>34233219
this, ai cheating is legitimately the only way to make a pokemon game hard since there's over 800 characters with cheese strats to choose from

totem mons should be immune to curse, perish song, toxic and crits

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:15:38 No.34233368 Report

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>>34233274
>totem mons should be immune to curse, perish song, toxic and crits

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:20:21 No.34233427 Report

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I like the totems. Gym battles were boring. Just bring one mon that sweeps through the opponent's type. The "cheating" that totems have means you have to think of creative strategies to defeat them without just cheesing them that no other pokemon game has forced me to do before. It's a nice change.

By all means get rid of the dumb trial minigame shit before them though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:23:19 No.34233455 Report

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Totem Wishiwashi, Totem Lurantis, Totem Arquanid and Totem Mimikyu are harder than any Gym Leader ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:23:57 No.34233462 Report

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Does Necrozma count as a Totem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:26:22 No.34233485 Report

Quoted By: >>34233511 >>34235491

How about new fucking elements? Fairy was lackluster and clearly half assed.

You'd figure that with over 800 pokemon now that there would be more elements than we have now, especially in different versions of said Islands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:28:21 No.34233504 Report

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>>34233182
The problem is especially with USUM Totems are cemented in gimmick. They can only come back if Z-Crystals do, which looks rough with Megas missing at least a gen.
Or they could break story and just make "Boss" form show up from now on, even if they aren't explicitly Totems

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:28:44 No.34233511 Report

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>>34233485
fairy wasn't introduced to be a cool new element just for the sake of it, it was for balance

>alola forms
>mega evolution
>z moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:30:34 No.34233529 Report

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>>34233182
I'd rather the game just have trainers with decent teams and move sets and decent ai
Single mon bosses are pretty lame when you can just punch through them with a z move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:30:41 No.34233530 Report

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>>34233274
imagine if necrozma was immune to this shit
nobody wouldve finished usum

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:31:55 No.34233546 Report

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>>34233511
z moves are fucking retarded. i'm really upset it took seven generations for new forms (GEN WUN ONRY) and six for fourth evos (not even permanent, very small pool, half look like garbage and the others ARE garbage)

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:33:59 No.34233563 Report

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>>34233219
Considering a lot of them use at-the-time inaccessible Egg Moves, TMs AND Tutor Moves on top of an immediate stat boost, you're kinda right about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:34:28 No.34233568 Report

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>>34233274
>totem mons should be immune to curse, perish song, toxic and crits
Making bosses immune to certain game mechanics just because they're bosses is something I fucking despise in games. Please keep it out of Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:34:47 No.34233571 Report

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>>34233219
Cheating AI is fine, games are supposed to pull strings to make themselves more entertaining. If GF ever gets over themselves and makes Hard mode a choice from default, slightly more cheating and well prepared opponents should be an option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:36:36 No.34233586 Report

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>>34233568
i think making them immune to certain mechanics is good if its not immune to EVERY mechanic, like every boss has an exploitable weakness
like totem togedemaru is immune to toxic stall but one earthquake will kill it so it doesnt matter
stuff like this is fine where stuff like immunity to stat decreases or ALL status moves is not (looking at you 95% of final fantasy bosses)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:37:14 No.34233595 Report

Quoted By: >>34233604 >>34233617

I wish you fought motherbeast directly. What's the point in fusing with an ultra beast if you're just going to stand there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:38:12 No.34233604 Report

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>>34233595
this pissed me off so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 22:38:54 No.34233617 Report

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>>34233595
Worse yet, all of her Pokemon used the Wild Pokemon AI so they just used moves at complete random instead of standard Trainer AI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 23:38:55 No.34234222 Report

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>>34233617
wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 23:41:48 No.34234238 Report

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>>34233223
I hope that they at least keep the Totem mevhanic for future Legendaries if they do just toss it out the window

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 01:34:48 No.34235399 Report

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>>34234238

I like this. I hate having to catch legendaries so if i can kill it, great.

i'll catch it later if i want to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 01:45:33 No.34235491 Report

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>>34233485
What elements could they add??

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 01:47:44 No.34235513 Report

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>>34233219
Gym leaders should function as a mini boss in a “dungeon” for a totem Pokémon. Also on some Sweet puzzle mechanics and sprinkle in other trainers and you’ve got a new progression formula.

Won’t ever happen. But still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 01:48:32 No.34235518 Report

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>>34233182
>I hope they improve upon it
Come man be real, GF isn't going to bring back totem pokemon/similar mechanic to another non-Alola game ever because they'll just do that "every game is unique" bullshit like they always do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 01:51:35 No.34235546 Report

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>>34233182
Totems for other regions would be neat.

Kanto:
Viridian Forest: Butterfree/Beedrill (depending on version)
Calls Caterpie/Weedle
+Sp.Def

Mt. Moon: Clefable
Calls Clefairy, Zubat, Paras
+Def

Diglett Cave: Dugtrio
Calls Diglett
+Def, Sp.Def

Pokemon Tower: Marowak Ghost
Calls Gastly, Haunter, rarely Cubone
+Def

Safari Zone: Tauros (Or Kangaskhan?)
Calls Tauros, Nidorino, Nidorina
+All stats

Pokemon Mansion: Magmar
Calls Koffing, Grimer, Vulpix/Growlithe
+All stats

Victory Road: Moltres
Calls Onix, Marowak, Machoke
+All stats

Seafoam Islands: Articuno
Calls Dewgong, Golduck
+All stats

Power Plant: Zapdos
Calls Electabuzz, Magneton
+All stats

Cerulean Cave: Mewtwo
Calls Alakazam, Machamp, Golem
+All stats x2

Johto (a bunch are shiny because of the whole shiny gimmick that Gen):
Bellsprout Tower: Shiny Weepingbell
Calls Bellsprout, Hoothoot, Gastly
+All stats

Ilex Forest: Shiny Ariados
Calls Spinarak, Paras, Oddish
+Atk

Sudowoodo blocking off Ecruteak
Calls Snubull, Nidoran, Sunkern
+Speed

Burned Tower: Shiny Magmar
Calls Koffing, Raticate
+Atk, Sp.Atk

Glitter Lighthouse: Amphy (unlocked after beating Jasmine)
Calls Flaaffy, Mareep
+All stats

Lake of Rage: Shiny Gyarados
Calls Magikarp once, after that more Gyarados with Rain Dance
+All stats

Dragon's Den: Kingdra
Calls Dragonair, Seadra
+All stats

Whirl Islands/Bell Tower: Lugia/Ho-Oh
Calls Raikou/Entei
+All stats

Mt. Silver: Tyranitar
Calls Rapidash, Ursaring, Donphan
+All stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 02:05:36 No.34235679 Report

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>>34235546
Id make the lavender town marowak one too. It fits being a totem and can call gastly or haunter to help

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 02:12:57 No.34235731 Report

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>>34235513
Yeah this is the most disappointing thing about trials for me, there wasn’t any real puzzle and most of them were short and super boring.

The concept was great and I applaud GF for doing something different, but there was so much wasted potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 02:30:09 No.34235887 Report

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>>34235491
Wind
Sound
Data/Cyber/Whatever
Some other "creature" based one like Dragon or Fairy

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 02:44:37 No.34236016 Report

Quoted By: >>34236026

>>34235887
>Data/Cyber/Whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 02:46:13 No.34236026 Report

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>>34236016
I meant computer themed stuff like Porygon or such.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 03:10:19 No.34236245 Report

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>>34233568
I think they're already immune to accuracy dropping moves. I kept hitting one of them with Mud Slap and it only did damage.

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