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ITT: 'Mons that disappointed you

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 09:07:39 No.34238513 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34238561 >>34238621 >>34240307 >>34240330 >>34240701 >>34240920 >>34242695

>6 years ago
>Playing Heartgold
>Using Mamoswine
>"Wow, Mamoswine is a lot stronger and bulkier than I was expecting"
>Becomes my favourite Ice type
>Fast forward to today
>Playing Ultra Sun
>Goddammit Piloswine!
>Why can't you take more than 2 hits before dying?
>Why is your levelup movepool so shit?
>Why do your good ice moves use your special attack?
Ultra Sun has let me realize that the only reason I enjoyed using Mamo in gen 4 was because you could evolve Pilo right away. Fuck having to a weak piggu for 25 levels!

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 09:21:45 No.34238561 Report

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>>34238513
Pic related could have used more speed.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 09:27:03 No.34238585 Report

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>>34238561
She's Ninjask by Alolan standards.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 09:39:52 No.34238621 Report

Quoted By: >>34238659 >>34238679 >>34240797 >>34241646 >>34241937

>>34238513
Gen 3
>Sceptile - fucking Absorb until level 29, no coverage until lategame, no interesting support moves, all in all it has none of the Grass type best qualities and all of their biggest flaws

Gen 5
>Gigalith (learns nothing but Rock moves, slow as shit and not bulky/powerful enough to compensate)
>Emolga (don't know what I was expecting...)
>Beartic (just all around awful)
>Liepard (W H Y)
>Seviper (slow and frail, takes tons of exp to level up)

Gen 6
>Pyroar (takes too long to get good)
>Helioptile (see above + base form is spectacularly bad)
>Carnivine (don't know what I was expecting v.2)

Gen 7
>Toucannon (slow and frail, bad signature move, not too awful but probably the worst gen 7 mon I tried so far and that list includes Oricorio and Lurantis)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 09:47:25 No.34238644 Report

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I traded my Swinub to sun and bred another with icicle crash, gave it earthquake and went to the move reminder to get in ancient power. It's some horseshit that Swinub/Piloswine don't learn the move they need to evolve by level up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 09:51:17 No.34238659 Report

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>>34238621
Forgot to add to gen 5
>Garbodor - whole movepool consists of only poison and normal moves, doesn't even learn poison jab for some reason, literal garbage
>Flareon - slow and frail, especially on the physical side, died too easily
Gen 5 had so many stinkers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 09:58:13 No.34238674 Report

Quoted By: >>34238714 >>34240611

Tried Malamar in first Y playthrough, dogshit
Tried aurorus, dogshit
Tried gumshoos in US, dogshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 09:59:29 No.34238678 Report

Quoted By: >>34241790 >>34242397

90% of Alola's Pokedex
>Incineroar (slow and frail fire type with actually decent movepool)
>Lycanroc (No goddamn moves, Night form is just an objectively shitty version of that)
>Vikavolt (J U S T)
>Mudsdale (cool gimmick gimped by shitty defenses and no recovery)
>Passimian (no fucking moves and doubles-only ability and a crappy one at that)

Mimikyu is like the ONLY Alolan mon that was actually really good

Other than that
>Pangoro (10/10 design, actually good STAB and movepool, but slow, frail, worst typing imaginable during the gen that introduced fairy type)
>Tyrantrum (Boss ass dino-dragon, basically just a shitty Tyranitar)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 10:00:07 No.34238679 Report

Quoted By: >>34238770

>Gen 3
Seviper, to frail and slow, seriously. It has great coverage moves, but with what stats?

>Gen 6
Lots of them:
-Absol went from my MVP in 3rd Gen to just another mediocre mon
-Leavanny, not much else to say
-Gigalith, mono Rock is never a good thing
-Jolteon, it was great in FR, but it felt so underwhelming for some reason
-Houndoom
-Blastoise and it doesn't help since I got one with almost 0 SpAtk IV's
-Dusknoir, I still like the mon itself, but boy does it need a proper STAB (and recovery)

>Gen 7
Mudsdale, not so much as the ones above, but still WHY SO SLOW

>>34238621
Funny since Toucannon was actually one of my best team mates, Drill Peck/Bullet Seed/Flame Charge/Brick Break (later replaced by Rock Blast) came in cluthc many times (I had Firium on it).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 10:10:57 No.34238714 Report

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>>34238674
>Gumshoos
I always ignored the route one birds and rodents

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 10:18:08 No.34238736 Report

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Mega Blastoise is really underwhelming for a Mega, though he did serve me well during the Elite Four at least. I had a better time with Mega Banette.

All these people saying Gigalith... I've never not had a great time with this thing. Purrloin and Liepard are disappointing though. Both Lillipup and Patrat actually wind up being better Dark types than the actual Dark type because they get Bite and Crunch.

A lot of the Alola mons are pretty underwhelming, mostly because half of them have either low speed or strangely low BSTs, or even both like Crabominable. Barely anything reaches even close to 500, not even shillmon Lycanroc. Things literally don't have enough stats in this dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 10:27:53 No.34238770 Report

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>>34238679
Mudsdale is great if you've got one with Stamina, walls pretty much any physical attacker in the game if it can survive a hit

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 10:32:24 No.34238789 Report

Quoted By: >>34240349 >>34240503 >>34240623 >>34240903 >>34241329 >>34241862

>Playing Gen 6 when it comes out (blind, just like everyone else)
>catch a Carbink, decide that this will be my first Fairy pokemon
>Is generally alright, but starts falling behind midway through the game and usually does shit in most fights
>see that leaked picture of Diancie, and figure that's Carbink's evo
>any level now, Carbink will evolve into that thing and be the best fairy pokemon ever
>every typical level milestone, I expect Carbink to evolve
>try using every item on Carbink to try and get it to evolve
>Even tried trading it with my friend to see if that's how it evolves
>just keep grinding Carbink, it'll evolve any level now
>soon Carbink is among my highest level mons, but still hasn't evolved
>I need Carbink to evolve.
>When do you evolve, Carbink?
>When, Carbink?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 15:35:10 No.34240307 Report

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>>34238513
> eviolite

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 15:41:50 No.34240330 Report

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>>34238513
Blacephalon. This thing literaly dies to TTar's Pursuit, even when you're not switching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 15:45:49 No.34240349 Report

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>>34238789
How did you feel when you learned Diancie was a Mythical?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:12:14 No.34240503 Report

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>>34238789
>that one NPC that mentions how Carbink turns into Diancie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:15:25 No.34240529 Report

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Ledian. Need I continue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:18:05 No.34240555 Report

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I used flareon in black two just to see people were exaggerating. Holy crap never again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:22:44 No.34240586 Report

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>>34238714
Some of them are good. Staraptor is unironically fantastic, and Talonflame pulls its weight too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:24:35 No.34240599 Report

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Midnight Lycanroc.

Caught an Adamant Rockruff early in Moon. Used it the entire game. It did nothing remarkable, and felt like it fainted or nearly fainted every time the opponent looked at it the wrong way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:26:48 No.34240611 Report

Quoted By: >>34241042

>>34238674
Try Malamar in Ultra because Inkay has been a godsend this run. So many debuffs thrown in my face and it cucks almost all the totems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:28:26 No.34240623 Report

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>>34238789
Are you me? Fuckin' mythicals, man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:40:40 No.34240701 Report

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>>34238513
Misdreavus/Mismagius was underwhelming. I taught mine nasty plot to get a sweet special attack boost but if the opponent lives and lightly slaps her then it's definitely going down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:52:11 No.34240797 Report

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>>34238621
>takes tons of exp to level up
I wonder if GF will retcon out the Erratic and Fluctuating experience groups one day. They were only used a lot for gen III mons, then only 3-4 lines used them in gen IV. By gen V no pokémon has used them since.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 17:06:07 No.34240903 Report

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>>34238789
I thought diancie would be a pseudo legendary, godra is a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 17:08:00 No.34240920 Report

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>>34238513
XY

dragalge, hits hard but its slow as shin you end having trouble lategame

delphox ,tons of dark pokemon in kalos, team flare loves to use houndour,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 17:20:27 No.34241042 Report

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>>34240611
Not to mention it gets foul play and screens via level up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 17:54:27 No.34241329 Report

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>>34238789
they make for a nice stall though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:04:47 No.34241398 Report

Quoted By: >>34241540

Fucking
EVERY electric type.

WHERE ARE MY COVERAGE MOVES GOD DAMN IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:15:36 No.34241466 Report

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>>34238770
This, I have one with stamina with ev/Iv's boosted in its defense. And I gave it iron defense too. So unless you can special sweep it then it's not going down easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:25:39 No.34241540 Report

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>>34241398
This.
Luxray feels a little weak, especially in doubles. Intimidate is kinda great because like most electric-types its defense is shit, but its speed is in some sort of weird place where it may be too fast or too slow for trick room. It's physical-moveset is complete ass too.

Magnezone instantly jobs when anything uses ground-type, which is so common and it still has no Mega-Evolution that gives it levitate. It looks like it's based on a UFO and it can't fucking fly unless I waste a turn for that electric terrain.

Favorite electric-type is Ampharos, at least that one is kinda reliable in fights and it gets fabulous hair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:29:34 No.34241563 Report

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B/W
>Zebstrika (Weak and frail)
>Darumaka (But then it finally evolved)

OR/AS
>Electrode (Fast as hell, but couldn't put a dent in anything)
>Skarmory (Couldn't put a dent in anything)
>Camerupt (Couldn't take that many hits)

S/M
>Crabrawler (Middling strength, slow, unusually frail)
>Wishiwashi (playing on set made its life miserable)
>Decidueye(Slow with generally weak)

I can't really remember if I had any experience with disappointing Pokemon when I was younger. I even remember using a Chimecho in my first Ruby run and it, somehow, carried its weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:42:42 No.34241646 Report

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>>34238621
>Sceptile - fucking Absorb until level 29
What is Bullet Seed

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:44:29 No.34241661 Report

Quoted By: >>34242688

>tfw have used lots of mons people say are shit in this thread with no issues
I feel like you can use literally anything in the main story and be fine. My favorite type is bug too, I use all the bug shitmons like leavanny and rape.

To answer OP's question, Zoroark is incredibly disappointing. It's gimmick is useless in game and it hits like a limp noodle with pitiful low BP moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:59:44 No.34241790 Report

Quoted By: >>34243134

>>34238678
>Mudsdale
I have the opposite experience. Mudsdale carried my entire team through the game, particularly the one that raises its Defense when hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:07:29 No.34241862 Report

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>>34238789
Carbink should have been the fucking pseudo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:11:32 No.34241902 Report

Quoted By: >>34241954 >>34242022 >>34242481

>need a good electric Pokemon for my team
>wild Pichu appears in the grass early in adventure
>"Oh wow, Pikachu/Raichu on my team would be killer!"
>Hau's bitch ass Pichu evolves before mine
>Pichu finally evolves, Pikachu is ok but gets rekt in one hit by even baby Pokemon
>ugh fine, ok guess we're not using it
>have to grab a Mareep/Flaafy to take on Totem Spiderfag
>Does ok, decide to keep Flaafy on the team
>Flaafy and Ampharos gets outsped by literally every Wild Pokemon/Trainer Pokemon in the game.

Holy shit, I rarely have an electric type Pokemon on my team, but i haven't been this disappointed since Zebstrika. Is there any fucking good electric type Pokemon thats useable in the long run?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:12:10 No.34241910 Report

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I randomised my team for US, got Chimecho, Klinklang, Golurk, Vanilluxe, Bewear and Skrelp.
By the time I reached Poni, half of my team STILL had to fully evolve. I'm thoroughly convinced that every mon should reach his second stage by 30 and third stage by 40. Otherwise they become a major slog to even level up as the fucking wildlife 2shots them all. I had my arse sent back to a pokemon center by EVERY totem past araquanid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:15:06 No.34241937 Report

Quoted By: >>34242137

>>34238621
>carnivine
>gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:16:41 No.34241954 Report

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>>34241902
Magnezone and Vikavolt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:24:24 No.34242022 Report

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>>34241902
Ampharos is bulky and can hit back hard, and Magnezone singlehandedly makes single player babby mode

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:30:28 No.34242074 Report

Quoted By: >>34242084

Volcarona

Can't do jack shit through the whole game.
Can't win a single serious battle.
Have to waste time grinding it alone since it can't win regular battles to keep up with the rest of the team.
Beat the game, yet it still hasn't evolved.
Evolve it.
There's nothing else to do in the game.
Since it was a in-game team member, can't even be used competitively or on battle facilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:31:43 No.34242084 Report

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>>34242074
Volcarona really needs a middle evo to make it usable before post game. It's basically a pseudo anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:37:30 No.34242137 Report

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>>34241937
Are you retarded? Carnivine can be found in XY and that was probably his first time using it. I'm surprised you didn't complain about Seviper with that autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 20:08:30 No.34242397 Report

Quoted By: >>34243356

>>34238678
>Mimikyu is like the ONLY Alolan mon that was actually really good
There’s also Bewear. He’s a monster.

As for Pangoro, make a Frisk Entrainment False Swiper and you’ve got the ultimate SOS chainer. That’s his true calling. Not every mon is meant for raw power.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 20:16:35 No.34242459 Report

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>>34238585
>Ninjask by alola standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 20:18:23 No.34242481 Report

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Pikachu

>caught a pichu in Sun
>died to literally everything on earth
>constantly missed
>dealt so little damage
>boxed it before i got a thunderstone
>get reminded why my electric type of choice is Mareep

I used Fomantis instead. While that pokemon's not the best, it at least pulled its own weight, which is more than i can say for pikachu. They give Pikachu all these neat toys to play with all while forgetting it's basically made of cracked glass.

>>34241902
At least Ampharos can paralyze most pokemon, sometimes it doesn't even need to Twave to manage that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 20:41:31 No.34242688 Report

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>>34241661
I never used a Zoroark in gen V so I don't know how the ability is seen by the AI, but it is broken in gen VII.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 20:42:38 No.34242695 Report

Quoted By: >>34244612

>>34238513
Infernape's level up moveset fucking sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 21:35:19 No.34243119 Report

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The only ones I can think of are Komala, which I only used because a friend wanted me to, and Crabominable.

Komala didn't do anything another member couldn't do better and Crab evolved way too late and was way too slow

Funnily enough, I thought Archeops would fall into this in Black but it ripped through Skyla and Drayden like nothing else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 21:36:22 No.34243134 Report

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>>34241790
Mine didn't even have it to start and it carried me through at least 3 or 4 trials

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 21:55:04 No.34243356 Report

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>>34242397
First play through of moon I fucking hated stufful and bewear. Fucking gross.

Second play through they fascinated me, caught Marshmello and he was a goddamn terrifying teddybear-raccoon fucking monster who singlehandedly handled shit that my other mons couldn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 00:06:27 No.34244612 Report

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>>34242695
How bad is it? Because I was planning to use one in my US run.

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