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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 11:28:27 No.34239008 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34239014 >>34239023 >>34239032 >>34239430 >>34239512 >>34239792 >>34240372 >>34240964

Is this the pinnacle of trick room setters/sweepers?

Nature:Lonely
Item: Focus Sash
Evs:252HP/252ATK/6SDF
-Gyro Ball
-Rock Slide
-Superpower
-Trick Room

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 11:30:15 No.34239014 Report

Quoted By: >>34240416

>>34239008
>focus sash

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 11:31:30 No.34239023 Report

Quoted By:

>>34239008
>boosting defense instead of attack
>running rock slide over stone edge in singles
>running focus sash in singles
>not running protect in doubles
>running superpower in doubles

in what meta is this set supposed to be a pinnacle

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Dawn_Mamoswine.png, 3MiB, 1566x881

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 11:32:40 No.34239032 Report

Quoted By: >>34239045 >>34239050 >>34239481

>>34239008
>Mamoswine used Earthquake
>Stakataka held on using its focus sash
>Stakataka used trick room
>Mamoswine used ice shard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 11:34:16 No.34239045 Report

Quoted By: >>34239455 >>34239483

>>34239032
>not having a Psychic Terrain from Tapu Lele
>not eliminating priority abusers before going in
Staka is a late game cleaner, simple as that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 11:34:53 No.34239050 Report

Quoted By:

>>34239032
Opponent doesn't alway have a Mamoswine laying around

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 12:48:19 No.34239430 Report

Quoted By: >>34239436

>>34239008
So which nature should I go for? Brave? Lonely? Anything else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 12:49:09 No.34239436 Report

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>>34239430
Lonely. You need to get the +Atk from Beast Boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 12:52:05 No.34239455 Report

Quoted By: >>34239474

>>34239045
>thinking it will ever make to late game with its focus sash intact

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 12:54:45 No.34239474 Report

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>>34239455
>cleans your hazards
It's so great to have THE GOD back.
Also this and Lando.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 12:55:27 No.34239481 Report

Quoted By: >>34239519

>>34239032
>>Mamoswine used Earthquake
>>Stakataka held on using its focus sash
>>Stakataka used gyro ball
>>Mamoswine fainted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 12:55:31 No.34239483 Report

Quoted By:

>>34239045
/logic

It's too slow. You cann't be a late game cleaner If you need heavy support to set you up. You cann't really eliminate counters because It has two common 4x weaknesses. If you elimanted all counters you basicly won already without using It.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 12:59:40 No.34239512 Report

Quoted By:

>>34239008
>focus sash
Literally the worst item on it. Get a Band instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 13:01:25 No.34239519 Report

Quoted By:

>>34239481
then you die to anything because no trick room
great plan genius

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 14:02:02 No.34239792 Report

Quoted By: >>34239823 >>34240360

>>34239008

>focus sash with those defenses

just don't put it against an obvious earthquake or fighting move you paranoid shit.

Steelium-Z or Rockium-Z are infinitely better to guarantee an OHKO after trickroom so you get your damage boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 14:07:13 No.34239823 Report

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>>34239792
Steelium Z is garbage on it, Gyro ball is always 160 BP as a Z move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 15:47:29 No.34240360 Report

Quoted By: >>34240383

>>34239792
Will a ground/fighting reducing berry be good on it? That way it can set up on things like garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 15:49:58 No.34240372 Report

Quoted By:

>>34239008
You need lower defence IVs if you want beast boost to raise attack, otherwise you should get a nature that lowers speed, not defence. Also replace item with Rockium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 15:51:50 No.34240383 Report

Quoted By: >>34240668

>>34240360
>garchomp
>relevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 15:58:40 No.34240416 Report

Quoted By: >>34240436

>>34239014

never played it? it's dying from HJUMPKICK or other fighting mover even with 1,5x def or sp. def in sandstorm

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:01:01 No.34240436 Report

Quoted By: >>34240458

>>34240416
You're not supposed to use it defensively, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:04:58 No.34240458 Report

Quoted By: >>34240470

>>34240436

then explain me how you want survive fake out + focus blast to set up trick room if other setter fails?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:07:09 No.34240470 Report

Quoted By: >>34240578

>>34240458
You don't
Use it when the opponents can't kill you, then trick room, then sweep

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:21:14 No.34240578 Report

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>>34240470

but it's not that easy anon... you can't rely on one mon trying to make it viable in match

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:36:45 No.34240668 Report

Quoted By: >>34240691

>>34240383
So you saying Garchomp is a shitmon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:39:11 No.34240691 Report

Quoted By: >>34240754 >>34240769

>>34240668

Garchomp is OU, which Shitatiki will not be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:46:42 No.34240754 Report

Quoted By:

>>34240691
That’s not what that comment is implying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:48:27 No.34240769 Report

Quoted By: >>34240890

>>34240691
Then why did that comment implied that garchomp is not relavent if it is OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:52:54 No.34240803 Report

Quoted By: >>34240823

Why would anyone deny this god?

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7battlespotsingles-662717400

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 16:57:02 No.34240823 Report

Quoted By: >>34241378 >>34241399

>>34240803
>1030 elo
>BSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 17:04:50 No.34240890 Report

Quoted By:

>>34240769
Not that guy but no one uses it. It's one of those 4% usage fringe mons that will drop to UU by next gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 17:12:50 No.34240964 Report

Quoted By:

>>34239008
Can't be the pinnacle because its concept is retarded and it looks like shit. Fuck UBs and fuck people who like and/or use them.
Fuck fuckity fuckfuckfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:02:08 No.34241378 Report

Quoted By: >>34241401

>>34240823
>it's not high elo
>so the battle didn't count!
/vp/ logic, every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:04:53 No.34241399 Report

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>>34240823

aurora veil+ weakness policy srakataka = ebin kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:05:46 No.34241401 Report

Quoted By: >>34241410

>>34241378
it's like someone driving go-kart acting like he's in the formula 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:07:16 No.34241410 Report

Quoted By: >>34241419

>>34241401
the content of the battle is what matters. As long as there is anything glaringly bad I couldn't care less about the elo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:07:43 No.34241414 Report

Quoted By: >>34241431 >>34242075

Stakataka @ Rockium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Lonely Nature
IVs: 14 Def / 0 Spe
- Trick Room
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:08:49 No.34241419 Report

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>>34241410
Basically no one knows how to teambuild low ladder, so that means fuck all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:09:51 No.34241431 Report

Quoted By: >>34241469

>>34241414
15 defense IVs, attack takes priority over defense for beast boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:14:47 No.34241460 Report

Quoted By: >>34241476 >>34242075

Super-Taka (Stakataka) @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 228 HP / 252 Atk / 28 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Gyro Ball
- Stone Edge
- Superpower
- Trick Room

actually fuck you casuals

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:15:59 No.34241469 Report

Quoted By: >>34241487 >>34241532

>>34241431
14 is better. At 15 iv attack and def are tied at lv 100. At 14iv your att will always be higher at lv 50 or 100

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:16:51 No.34241476 Report

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>>34241460
lower it to 15 def IVs and a lonely nature so you can actually steamroll stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:17:04 No.34241477 Report

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>mankey used low kick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:17:58 No.34241487 Report

Quoted By:

>>34241469
If there's a tie, the first one always gets a boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 18:24:34 No.34241532 Report

Quoted By:

>>34241469
At level 50, you can pull off 15 IVs in defence

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 19:30:34 No.34242075 Report

Quoted By:

>>34241460
Change to Rock-Z better set to take our bulky mon's to get beast boost off first.
>>34241414
Replace earthquake with Superpower, it's much better for situational purposes because earthquake is to predictable. Remember not everyone on a trick room team has to be slow, you can have that 1 unexpected sweeper speeder to give you the edge you need.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 21:07:30 No.34242870 Report

Quoted By: >>34244131

>at the point of the game where I can catch stakataka
>after a while, finally catch one (team severely under leveled)
>check stats
>"oh shit, a lonely nature"
>use IV calculator to see if defense IVs line up to be 15, since all the other stats are promising
>16 IVs

I know I can still get an attack boost if I was playing with rules that set the pokemon to level 50 but come on
Is it worth shiny hunting this thing? Piss yellow bricks are not the most appealing color that they could have made this thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2017 23:15:46 No.34244131 Report

Quoted By:

>>34242870
>Is it worth shiny hunting this thing?
I dunno, is it? It's entirely cosmetic, and you can do the math yourself on how long it would take.

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