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Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:18:45 No.34245322 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34245344 >>34245408 >>34245564 >>34245590 >>34245647 >>34245865 >>34245894 >>34246228 >>34248754 >>34249646

Dusk form literally leaves midnight and midday obsolete

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:19:38 No.34245338 Report

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Midday yes. Midnight no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:19:54 No.34245344 Report

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>>34245322
Midnight has its own niche

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:21:28 No.34245358 Report

Quoted By: >>34245370

Midnight is a bit faster than Dusk

Other than that Dusk is far better than both

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:22:41 No.34245370 Report

Quoted By: >>34245387

>>34245358
You're mixing up your dogs, lad.
Midday is faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:23:05 No.34245374 Report

Quoted By: >>34246046

You mean it makes day obsolete. Night's new tutors and no guard moves gives it it's own unique purposes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:24:19 No.34245387 Report

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>>34245370
whoops

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:25:46 No.34245407 Report

Quoted By: >>34245451 >>34245609

Its only good form of ussage from its abilitiy is accelrock and thats the only shit i see it using; regardless its only two GOOD moves arent even contact moves. Its pathetic, I 100% prefer him over midday though- but it learns thrash instead of both accelrock and counter i find that absolutely retarted

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:25:56 No.34245408 Report

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>>34245322
All three are shit. End.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:30:03 No.34245451 Report

Quoted By: >>34245878 >>34246092 >>34246150 >>34246240 >>34246244

>>34245407
Dusk Lycanroc @ Life Orb
Ability: Tough Claws
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 6 HP
- Accelrock
- Fire Fang
- Brick Break
- Swords Dance

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:42:16 No.34245564 Report

Quoted By: >>34245583 >>34247087

>>34245322
Midnight is not even comparable with the other two. It has a wider movepool with the punches, slightly better bulk, and No Guard ensures that you can recklessly spam Stone Edge, Zen Headbutt, Iron Tail, etc.

Dusk is the most consistent one to use. Night is most fun one to use. Day is just complete literal dogshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:45:39 No.34245583 Report

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>>34245564
I can agree with this but without crapping on day. Night's the "best" but day isn't bad. Just boring...and outclassed now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:46:20 No.34245590 Report

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>>34245322

Midday is obsolete. Midnight still has its own niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:49:37 No.34245609 Report

Quoted By: >>34245634

>>34245407
When does Dusk dog learn Accelrock? I evolved it at 27 or so because I had to wait until 5 in the morning to evolve it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:51:50 No.34245634 Report

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>>34245609
It's a level 1 move, so Move Reminder only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:52:45 No.34245647 Report

Quoted By: >>34246046

>>34245322
Midday is obsolete. Meme lords can use Midnight for No Guard shinanigans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:14:00 No.34245865 Report

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>>34245322
What about Dawn form?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:15:05 No.34245878 Report

Quoted By: >>34246163 >>34246192

>>34245451
>fire dang
>brick break
>not drill run
noob

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:16:55 No.34245894 Report

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>>34245322
Does it really matter when they all suck ass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:32:14 No.34246046 Report

Quoted By: >>34246076

>>34245647
>>34245374
The only benefit No Guard has for Lycanroc is 100% accurate Stone Edges and Iron Tails, but that's not very impressive given how the accuracy is already 80% and 75% respectively. No Guard also increases the enemies attacks to 100% accuracy so it can end up being a liability.

Midnight is just too slow to be sweeping, has no good priority attacks like Midday and Dusk, and rock is a bad defensive typing for something so slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:34:38 No.34246076 Report

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>>34246046
Mine always wears a scarf and I'm not serious about competitive play. I'm happy enough that it's useable ingame and in the battle tree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:36:16 No.34246092 Report

Quoted By: >>34246192

>>34245451
Drill Run, nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:42:07 No.34246150 Report

Quoted By: >>34246192

>>34245451

>No Stone Edge

It's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:43:32 No.34246163 Report

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>>34245878
>noob
scrub

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:46:18 No.34246192 Report

Quoted By: >>34247108 >>34247163

>>34245878
>>34246092
What good is Drill Run?

>>34246150
Stone Edge can replace Swords Dance, but isn't boosted by Tough Claws and has 80% accuracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:49:39 No.34246228 Report

Quoted By: >>34246391

>>34245322
/vp/ has this bizarre notion that because Lycanroc Midnight might have incredibly tiny niche in PU that it isn't utter garbage, but yes, Dusk leaves its two siblings in the dust

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:50:53 No.34246240 Report

Quoted By: >>34246256

>>34245451
lol you tried.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:51:24 No.34246244 Report

Quoted By: >>34246256

>>34245451
I approve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:52:29 No.34246256 Report

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>>34246240
>>34246244
fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:56:53 No.34246293 Report

Quoted By: >>34246349 >>34246392

How is midday obsolete? That 2 extra base Speed lets it outrun base 110's and 111's, not that you would ever use Lycanroc in OU anyway but still

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Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 03:02:33 No.34246349 Report

Quoted By: >>34246952

>>34246293
The only things that Day outruns that Dusk doesn't are Espeon, Froslass, Jumpluff, Dodrio and A-Dugtrio. There are obviously more, like Gengar, but they are OU and irrelevant to this discussion because Lycanroc won't rise above RU.

Out of those threats, Dugtrio is non-existent and the rest of them lose to Accelrock because they themselves do not have their own priority. The exception is Espeon.

So basically, the ONLY REASON to use Day Lycanroc over Dusk is if you are irrationally afraid of Espeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 03:06:13 No.34246391 Report

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>>34246228
No one thinks night is going to be amazing or anything. Just that it has new toys to play with.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 03:06:17 No.34246392 Report

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>>34246293

111-112 isn't exactly a crowded speed tier, and Lycanroc has no business going up against most of these Pokemon anyway.

Sure, you speed tie with base 110s, but there aren't many Pokemon in that speed tier than Dusk Lycanroc will ever be up against.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 04:05:35 No.34246952 Report

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>>34246349
Most of them actually don't get OHKOd by Accelrock, even boosted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 04:18:56 No.34247087 Report

Quoted By: >>34247162

>>34245564
holy shit did my top dogo become competitive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 04:22:14 No.34247108 Report

Quoted By: >>34247152

>>34246192
>What good is Drill Run?
After the Tough Claws boost, it outdamages Earthquake while retaining the high crit rate. It's a huge selling point for Dusk.
>Stone Edge can replace Swords Dance, but isn't boosted by Tough Claws and has 80% accuracy.
If your running an SD set Stone Edge should be mandatory. TC boosted Accelrock is only 52 BP before STAB. Tough Claws is not Technican, so you can't expect it to do immense damage on everything. You probably need to run 2 STABs if you really need to keep Accelrock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 04:28:27 No.34247152 Report

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>>34247108
I feel like you guys are all overestimating how many switches Lycanroc will be able to force. SD might not be the best bet. I'd rather do CB (or even Lycanrocium Z) with Stone Edge/Accelrock/Drill Run or Stomping Tantrum/Coverage

Edgequake hits everything except a few grass-types for at least neutral damage so figure it out between Crunch, Brick Break, Fire Fang and Thunder Fang

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 04:29:46 No.34247162 Report

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>>34247087
No. Barely climbing out of PU doesn't make it good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 04:29:51 No.34247163 Report

Quoted By: >>34247171

>>34246192

Tough Claws Drill Run is stronger than Earthquake and Rock + Ground coverage hits everything except Grass/Fighting and Grass/Ground neutrally (and Flygon, Claydol, and Bronzong due to Levitate)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 04:30:53 No.34247171 Report

Quoted By: >>34249362

>>34247163
Stomping Tantrum is 5 less BP and without the miss chance. Drill Run doesn't net any more KOs than tantrum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 07:00:01 No.34248354 Report

Quoted By: >>34248369

just watched the episode is this one of those rare frogs he wont be able to keep series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 07:02:12 No.34248369 Report

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>>34248354
No, it's not connected to Ash. The one you get ingame is breedable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 08:08:36 No.34248754 Report

Quoted By: >>34248859

>>34245322
Should I bother breeding Thunder Fang onto this thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 08:26:47 No.34248859 Report

Quoted By:

>>34248754
Fire fang

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 10:25:56 No.34249362 Report

Quoted By:

>>34247171
>what is tough claws
>being an accuracy cuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Nov 2017 11:52:23 No.34249646 Report

Quoted By:

>>34245322
u mean buy usum form

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