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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 06:53:41 No.34259239 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34259293 >>34259358 >>34259523 >>34259734 >>34259809 >>34260192 >>34260562 >>34260630 >>34261247 >>34263588 >>34264468 >>34264643 >>34265546

so it's looking like naganadel is going to be ubers

source: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/usum-metagame-discussion.3621042/page-3#post-7590746

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:02:41 No.34259293 Report

Quoted By: >>34259337

>>34259239
That was pretty obvious to anyone that's been playing on the ladder.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:06:20 No.34259330 Report

Quoted By: >>34259704 >>34259717 >>34260672 >>34261836

>over 120 speed
>over 120 sp atk
>nasty plot
>free speed boost every kill
>fire coverage to shit on steel resist
>can't be toxic stalled

I wonder why

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:08:17 No.34259337 Report

Quoted By: >>34259345 >>34259361

>>34259293

most of /vp/ doesn't play ou

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:09:53 No.34259345 Report

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>>34259337
And?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:11:45 No.34259358 Report

Quoted By: >>34260214

>>34259239
>remember that the people behind smogon refer to themselves as "the council"

What a bunch of fags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:12:14 No.34259361 Report

Quoted By: >>34259370

>>34259337
Then why would you make a thread about it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:14:37 No.34259370 Report

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>>34259361

because /vp/ discusses ou

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:44:58 No.34259523 Report

Quoted By: >>34259534 >>34259548 >>34259621

>>34259239
I just posted some rant of sorts explaining my deal with this shit. Hope you all liked it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:46:30 No.34259532 Report

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AND
YET
LANDO
ISN'T
TOUCHED

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:46:42 No.34259534 Report

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>>34259523
It's shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:48:59 No.34259548 Report

Quoted By:

>>34259523
Nope, I cant even read so your rants are pointless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:00:44 No.34259621 Report

Quoted By: >>34259627

>>34259523
Are you Kamen Galaxy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:01:48 No.34259627 Report

Quoted By: >>34259729

>>34259621
Why yes, I am. Aren't you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:07:39 No.34259673 Report

Quoted By: >>34259688

>caring about smogon
>following smogon rules

free will and independent though must be scary concepts you all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:09:35 No.34259688 Report

Quoted By: >>34260257

>>34259673
I intentionally suffer from low ladder due to my non-willing to use their sets. Innovate, not accommodate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:11:53 No.34259703 Report

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We did it Magearnafags. We actually did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:11:58 No.34259704 Report

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>>34259330
Naga has the status moves and speed tier that Hydreigon always dreamed of having, but was denied so harshly.

ITS NOT FAIR! HYDREIGON WAS SUPPOSE TO BE THE UBER DRAGON!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:14:34 No.34259717 Report

Quoted By: >>34259736

>>34259330
>not boosting SpA per kill
What are you, a kid?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:16:20 No.34259729 Report

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>>34259627
>hardstuck in 1.1k elo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:17:50 No.34259734 Report

Quoted By:

>>34259239
Call me when they finally ban Landorus-T

Oh wait thats never

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:18:18 No.34259736 Report

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>>34259717
being unable to get revenge killed > getting more SpA you don't need.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:37:36 No.34259809 Report

Quoted By: >>34259817 >>34259826

>>34259239
Why isn't Lando Uber again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:38:44 No.34259817 Report

Quoted By:

>>34259809
It is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 08:41:03 No.34259826 Report

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>>34259809
Lando I is Uber.

Lando T is just a glue mon, good for role compression but never an issue at team building nor oppressive on any way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 09:40:58 No.34260192 Report

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>>34259239
>smogon fucks up again
More news at 11.
It's a meme community where Deo-S and Deo-D are still banned after all and where Chatter was also banned from a tier. Make your own conclusions on their formats literally run by kids with staff power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 09:45:03 No.34260214 Report

Quoted By: >>34260233

>>34259358
This. Holy shit, how self absorbed can you be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 09:47:34 No.34260233 Report

Quoted By: >>34260247

>>34260214
Enough to get a hundred thousand or so people to blindly follow you, that much I know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 09:49:31 No.34260247 Report

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>>34260233
t. smogon council member

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 09:51:27 No.34260257 Report

Quoted By: >>34260287

>>34259688
So you’re basically saying that you’re a shit player?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 09:55:39 No.34260287 Report

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>>34260257
In a not so roundabout way, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 10:37:45 No.34260562 Report

Quoted By: >>34260626 >>34261448 >>34261545

>>34259239
>B-BAN NAGANADEL! IT'S BREAKING MY STALL!
>B-BUT LEAVE TOXAPEX AND LANDO!
If they actually ban Nag I fucking quit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 10:49:53 No.34260626 Report

Quoted By: >>34261243

>>34260562
stall is currently dead, was before naga
pex and lando-t have fuck all to do with stall actually, they both feature much more prominently on balance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 10:50:45 No.34260630 Report

Quoted By: >>34260642 >>34260646 >>34261709

>>34259239
do people geuinely think Lando t needs to go? its the only thing holding ou together

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 10:52:37 No.34260642 Report

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>>34260630
it's mostly just shitposters and anti-smogon guys
...there's also the occasional anti-legendary fuckwad, but usually never anyone who actually know anything about competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 10:53:04 No.34260646 Report

Quoted By: >>34260664

>>34260630
>On over half of teams
Its over centralizing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 10:54:08 No.34260656 Report

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OU is not even that big anymore and this was coming a mile away if we're bein honest. I'm just gonna tear asses apart in Monotype and BS instead, no big deal.

What I do want to know is if they're gonna do that Dusk Wings suspect or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 10:54:58 No.34260664 Report

Quoted By: >>34261427

>>34260646
It's used on over half the teams due to role compression, it's not an issue in teambuilding and not actually oppressive in any way
That isn't over centralizing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 10:56:41 No.34260672 Report

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>>34259330
>Naganadel has access to nasty plot
Holy shit, and I was wasting my time setting up a meme contrary draco meteor naganadel with spinda on doubles OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 11:34:40 No.34260869 Report

Quoted By: >>34261329

i agree that naganadel is too much for ou when its in capable hands but lately i've not been having too much trouble against it because there are too many retards bringing it out way to early who then start nasty plotting up as soon as they switch it in expecting you to switch for whatever ever reason. letting you either kill it that turn or get enough damage off on it that you can revenge it with a faster scarf or something strong priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 11:43:17 No.34260928 Report

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>Council
Why am I laughing so hard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 12:49:16 No.34261243 Report

Quoted By:

>>34260626
Everything that isn't using an attack every turn is stall to these people don't bother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 12:50:10 No.34261247 Report

Quoted By:

>>34259239
I liked the part where the current Smogon OU leader ripped the former leader's ass apart in the next comment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 12:58:53 No.34261296 Report

Quoted By: >>34261309

What's OTR?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:00:53 No.34261309 Report

Quoted By: >>34261318

>>34261296
Offensive Trick Room, the thing that Stakataka can do

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:02:15 No.34261318 Report

Quoted By: >>34261350 >>34261354

>>34261309
What's the difference to regular trick room?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:03:47 No.34261329 Report

Quoted By: >>34265234 >>34265252

>>34260869
Do they not sash it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:05:19 No.34261338 Report

Quoted By: >>34261360 >>34261599 >>34262522 >>34265263

fucking bullshit
naga is barely good in ou, it'll be trash in ubers
they need a tier below ubers that's just everything in ubers c or below
ban to ubers, if it's in c or below for a month it's useable in the new tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:07:11 No.34261350 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261318
Pokemon that can use OTR can set up Trick Room themselves while performing an offensive role for the team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:08:27 No.34261354 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261318
Its offensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:09:42 No.34261360 Report

Quoted By: >>34261586

>>34261338
Shitgon will never do that though, they are too fucking retarded to

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:16:06 No.34261391 Report

Quoted By: >>34261418 >>34261440 >>34261884 >>34262521

Naga-nadel
Nagana-del

???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:21:47 No.34261418 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261391
>Nagana-del

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:24:05 No.34261427 Report

Quoted By:

>>34260664
I'd still like to not see it in almost every single battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:26:48 No.34261440 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261391
Nagan-adel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:28:27 No.34261448 Report

Quoted By:

>>34260562
Stall died with the Arena Trap ban

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:48:07 No.34261545 Report

Quoted By:

>>34260562
According to Gary they are seriously considering a Toxapex suspect sometimes in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:57:22 No.34261586 Report

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>>34261360
lol why are you so mad? Why not just play gamefreaks perfectly balanced battlespot singles and stop playing on simulators with a bunch of made up rules

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 13:59:36 No.34261599 Report

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>>34261338
>naga is barely good in ou

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 14:13:53 No.34261709 Report

Quoted By: >>34261723 >>34261731

>>34260630
yes pls ban this shit. i cant use grass type s anymore to check because of z-fly . its too unpredictable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 14:17:09 No.34261723 Report

Quoted By: >>34261731

>>34261709
this, heatran needs to be banned because i can't switch in my water ground or rock types because of z-solarbeam. i'm too bad at predicting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 14:19:12 No.34261731 Report

Quoted By: >>34261751

>>34261709
>>34261723
yes pls ban these and ban mega scizor. i can't switch in my gound flying types because of technician hidden power ice. too unpredictable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 14:25:05 No.34261751 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261731
>mega scizor
Sub 1200 shitter spotted. The real problem is Ferrothorn with rollout, I can't switch in any of my fire types due to that, please ban this shit Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 14:40:42 No.34261836 Report

Quoted By:

>>34259330
>over 120 speed
>over 120 sp atk
>gets speed boosted after one kill

This remind me of something else, haha xD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 14:47:33 No.34261884 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261391
James Turner confirmed it's naga + nadel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 16:25:15 No.34262521 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261391
Nagan-adele, it's rolling in the deep

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 16:25:19 No.34262522 Report

Quoted By: >>34263278

>>34261338
return to play your main games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:57:23 No.34263278 Report

Quoted By:

>>34262522
return to suck your main dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:13:44 No.34263430 Report

Quoted By: >>34263453 >>34263489 >>34263497 >>34263581 >>34264691

How to smogon
>ban the shiny new toys
>but not lando t, never lando t

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:16:12 No.34263453 Report

Quoted By:

>>34263430
10/10 best explanation ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:20:54 No.34263489 Report

Quoted By: >>34263546

>>34263430
How to /vp/
>Always cry about Landorus
>Always claim [actual broken Pokémon] is in fact perfectly managed and Smogon are shitters for wanting to ban it.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:22:03 No.34263497 Report

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>>34263430

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:29:27 No.34263546 Report

Quoted By: >>34263552 >>34263600

>>34263489
Stop sucking smogons stinky dick anon. Theyre a bunch of babies that, instead of finding ways to play around stuff, they just ban it.
>they banned baton pass before.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:29:57 No.34263552 Report

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>>34263546

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:34:25 No.34263581 Report

Quoted By:

>>34263430
>be sub-1100 shitter
>blame it on lando t

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:35:25 No.34263588 Report

Quoted By: >>34263753 >>34264397

>>34259239
>as a matter of fact, a Pex suspect was indeed discussed not too long ago

this part didn't catch anyone else's eye?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:36:20 No.34263600 Report

Quoted By:

>>34263546
>instead of finding ways to play around stuff
Like Lando-T?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:57:59 No.34263753 Report

Quoted By: >>34263761 >>34265583

>>34263588
That doesn't surprise any of the actual OU players and antismogon shitposters will just turn a blind eye and claim they're banning toxapex to buff stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:58:55 No.34263761 Report

Quoted By: >>34263782 >>34265505

>>34263753
Buff stall? That would kill what is left of stall...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:00:41 No.34263775 Report

Quoted By: >>34263803

What's so bad about Toxapex? I thought it was a meme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:01:13 No.34263782 Report

Quoted By:

>>34263761
no toxapex is being banned because smogon wants to buff stall

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:03:12 No.34263803 Report

Quoted By:

>>34263775
thicc

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 20:28:05 No.34264397 Report

Quoted By: >>34264965

>>34263588
What? I mean, Toxapex is a pain to kill, but that alone is not enought reason to suspect test it, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 20:40:45 No.34264468 Report

Quoted By: >>34264511 >>34264559 >>34264613 >>34265037

>>34259239
>Cool new toy everyone wants to try out and play with
>Better ban it
Jeeze, you fuck are hilarious. If this were literally any other competitive game, they'd wait months and watch the meta shifts before making a decision. Naga has been around for what? A week? Why not wait and let the new meta settle instead of snap-banning something new?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 20:45:40 No.34264511 Report

Quoted By:

>>34264468
Look at the memes of VP, a lot of people think fairy type is broken and all slap them on their teams and can't live without them honestly giving this poison/dragon the time of its life.

People don't want to stop using their fairy pokemon as much so they'd rather ban the fairy killer, look what happened to Mega Metagross

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 20:53:17 No.34264559 Report

Quoted By:

>>34264468
Why wait months when it's very clearly broken?
It's got two switch-ins, both of which it can muscle past with spikes support or minor chip, and only like three offensive checks at +1 speed, two of which rely on priority.
It obviously restricts team building to a ridiculous degree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 21:00:10 No.34264613 Report

Quoted By:

>>34264468
Just use it in Ubers you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 21:01:20 No.34264627 Report

Quoted By:

Nasty Plot is too much for this, the Choice sets or just Z would be ok because you could at least switch into something that's not a hard counter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 21:03:16 No.34264643 Report

Quoted By:

>>34259239
I was looking on some uu tier discussion on smogon and they were all acting like it would drop a tier thanks to its horrible typing and terrible bulk. Wonder how they feel now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 21:10:01 No.34264691 Report

Quoted By:

>>34263430
Lando T is the yardstick to measure whether something needs to be banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 21:40:17 No.34264965 Report

Quoted By: >>34264986 >>34265172

>>34264397
They've banned things because of their unhealthy warping effect on the meta before. Deo-D, Mega sableye (for the whole two minutes it was banned), swagger and baton pass, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 21:42:49 No.34264986 Report

Quoted By:

>>34264965
>for the whole two minutes it was banned
Megasab is still banned from gen 6 you know.
They're still gen 6 tournaments

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 21:50:45 No.34265037 Report

Quoted By:

>>34264468
That really worked out last time this happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:04:14 No.34265172 Report

Quoted By:

>>34264965
>mega sableye was banned for longer than catalonia was independent

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:10:43 No.34265234 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261329
Naga has somewhat decent natural bulk, as long as you don't set up in front of a stab earthquake you're probably alright

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:13:09 No.34265252 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261329
Fuck no Z draco is the only set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:14:12 No.34265263 Report

Quoted By:

>>34261338
This would actually be pretty fun for mons like lando I that were great in our but barely get any use in ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:48:46 No.34265505 Report

Quoted By: >>34265583

>>34263761
Toxapex is one of the reasons stall is dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:53:09 No.34265546 Report

Quoted By:

>>34259239
Yes, yes, this is fine and all, but when are they going to address the real problem?
On showdown Lycanroc-Dusk backsprite is just a recolored version of the one they used for midday.GF would be ashamed, especially considering how much love and effort they put in making Dusk model

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:57:23 No.34265583 Report

Quoted By: >>34265611

>>34265505
kek
>>34263753

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 23:00:21 No.34265611 Report

Quoted By:

>>34265583
I was just answering the anon's question, I don't want it banned, pex is a great addition to some of my teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 23:14:07 No.34265764 Report

Quoted By: >>34266436

Hey guys. Just here to remind you again that the Smogon metagame is an unofficial metagame not supported by the developers of these games. Smogon is allowed to make up their own rules and guidelines on how to treat their metagame, and if you disagree with their methods maybe their designed meta is not for you. Try VGC or get some people with which you can play by your own rules. Nobody is forcing you to play by Smogon standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 00:40:39 No.34266436 Report

Quoted By:

>>34265764
>Nobody is forcing you to play by Smogon standards.
I know but its fun

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