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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:35:53 No.34263043 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34263103 >>34263143 >>34263160 >>34263189 >>34263892 >>34263997 >>34264080 >>34264109

>hear from pirates that USUM is generally dissapointing and changes basically nothing
>game releases
>it adds more content than Crystal, Emerald and Platinum did to their respective generations

Okay, so one of these two things has happened. Or a combination of the two.

>We got spoiled by BW2
>We forgot how much previous third version games actually added

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:37:30 No.34263103 Report

Quoted By: >>34263111

>>34263043
Yeah and don't forget this board fucking adores Platinum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:38:18 No.34263111 Report

Quoted By: >>34264085

>>34263103
To be fair Platinum was pretty fucking good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:41:48 No.34263143 Report

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>>34263043
how the heck is she hanging on to him like that? why is she suspended in the air while he's running?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:43:39 No.34263160 Report

Quoted By: >>34263169 >>34263211

>>34263043
>>it adds more content than Crystal, Emerald and Platinum did to their respective generations

One, this is objectively untrue
Second, pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:44:38 No.34263169 Report

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>>34263160
Why bother posting a screen of such a shitty post? Also, you are objectively wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:46:29 No.34263189 Report

Quoted By: >>34263211

>>34263043
What content

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:49:30 No.34263211 Report

Quoted By: >>34263585 >>34263844 >>34263850 >>34263872

>>34263160
>>34263189
>Wild Pokemon and Trainer Battle themes are remixed
>UR squad
>Alola Photo Club
>Mantine Surfing
>Blush Mountain is the new special electro-magnetic field area
>Mina has a trial
>Hokulani has a real Victory Road now
>Necrozma event
>RR event

I love Platinum dearly but if you think it did more than this you're insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 17:56:58 No.34263272 Report

Quoted By: >>34263339 >>34263384 >>34263473 >>34263788 >>34263872

Here's my perception of what they added;

New Pokémon
-3 new ultra beasts
-new form for lycanroc
-new forms for the box legendaries and necrozma
-1 new mythical
Story content
-different lusamine
-ultra recon squad
-hau becomes a man
-mina has a trial this time
New content
-ultra wormhole riding, can be used to obtain shiny and legendary shinies
-mantine surfing to give BP for move tutors
-rainbow rocket

Crystal added

No new Pokémon
Instead of going to whirlpool island or tin tower, you chase Suicune around and eusine chases you to find out why Suicune is more interested in you than him
No different story with Rocket
A battle facility was added

Emerald added

No new Pokémon
A different story regarding Maxie and Archie and how they succeeded in reviving the origin legendaries, admittedly a lot better than R/S's "one team is evil and the other just rationally exists to check the other teams irrational desires"
More Pokémon selection
A battle facility that has not been topped

Platinum added

Two new forms for Giratina and Shaymin
A slightly altered story replacing palk/dial with giratina. Cyrus is more upfront about being a villain.
Better level design, trainer teams were a bit more challenging, even the writing got a little better.
Surfing speed was faster

So in what way does USUM not live up to the standards that Pokémon made for "third" versions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:04:04 No.34263339 Report

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>>34263272
>yfw you haven't been listening to early access fags and have been enjoying the game thus far.

A better battle facility can be saved for the switch any way and will probably go all out on wireless communication.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:08:46 No.34263384 Report

Quoted By: >>34263473

>>34263272
You're forgetting the battle facilities in Platinum and you separated a lot of the story changes in USUM while lumping them into one line for the others

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:18:48 No.34263473 Report

Quoted By: >>34263788 >>34263872

>>34263272
>>34263384
I'll take a crack at it then

USUM added
-3 new ultra beasts
-new form for lycanroc
-new forms for the box legendaries and necrozma
-1 new mythical
Story content
-different lusamine
-ultra recon squad
-hau is teh champion
-mina has a trial this time
New content
-ultra wormhole riding, can be used to obtain shiny and legendary shinies
-mantine surfing to give BP for move tutors
-rainbow rocket
-more pokemon added to the pokedex
-trainers added
-totem pokemon, Kahunas and othe important battles are more difficult

Crystal added

No new Pokémon
-intro animations for each pokemon
-Instead of going to whirlpool island or tin tower, -you chase Suicune around and eusine chases -you to find out why Suicune is more interested in you than him
-No different story with Rocket
-A battle facility was added

Emerald added

-No new Pokémon
-A different story regarding Maxie and Archie and how they succeeded in reviving the origin legendaries, admittedly a lot better than R/S's "one team is evil and the other just rationally exists to check the other teams irrational desires"
-More Pokémon selection
-A battle facility that has not been topped
-A few new trainers

Platinum added

-Two new forms for Giratina and Shaymin
-A slightly altered story replacing palk/dial with giratina. Cyrus is more upfront about being a villain.
-Better level design, trainer teams were a bit more challenging, even the writing got a little better.
-Surfing speed was faster
-Battle Frontier
-Pokedex got unfucked

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 18:34:51 No.34263585 Report

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>>34263211
Don't forget a redemption arc instead of having Lusameme just btfo and in a coma and we never see her again.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:01:41 No.34263788 Report

Quoted By: >>34263831 >>34263872

>>34263272
>>34263473
>no mention of Rotom forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:08:08 No.34263831 Report

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>>34263788
I forgot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:09:31 No.34263844 Report

Quoted By: >>34263874

>>34263211
Battle Frontier alone is more than all of that, dumb shill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:10:12 No.34263850 Report

Quoted By: >>34263874

>>34263211
It at least addressed the problems with DP, whereas USUM did not address the problems with SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:11:21 No.34263857 Report

Quoted By: >>34263868 >>34263875 >>34263982

>they did it before so it's ok that they do it now!

1. DLC exists
2. Why are we comparing to Platinum when BW2 were also successor versions but added far more new content? These games should be held to a higher standard now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:13:10 No.34263868 Report

Quoted By: >>34264108

>>34263857
BW2 were sequels, they weren't a retread like the other were, it's basically a different game entirely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:13:20 No.34263872 Report

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>>34263788
>>34263211
>>34263272
>>34263473

>No mention either of Crystal adding a Female Trainer for the first time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:13:28 No.34263874 Report

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>>34263844
Not to mention that you could co-op online for Battle Frontier.

>>34263850
This. Must obviously:
>speeds up battle text
>more than two fire types (one being a starter) available through the main story

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:13:36 No.34263875 Report

Quoted By: >>34263923 >>34264108

>>34263857
Because BW2 is a sequel that merely uses the same location and characters? All the others are retelling of the same story.

DLC exists? Yeah and it existed in the DS era too. No excuse for Platinum or yes, even BW2, to exist.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:15:50 No.34263892 Report

Quoted By: >>34263911

>>34263043
Aaaand? That's not a big deal
Third versions concept is shit, it's still not enough to be sold as a whole new game in the end.
10 bucks DLC at best!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:18:51 No.34263911 Report

Quoted By: >>34263916

>>34263892
I think it's just hypocritical

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:19:38 No.34263916 Report

Quoted By: >>34263925

>>34263911
How so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:20:31 No.34263923 Report

Quoted By: >>34263948

>>34263875
The DS was not designed for DLC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:20:53 No.34263925 Report

Quoted By: >>34264096

>>34263916
A lot of the board treated USUM like it was the worse shit ever when the other third versions (not counting BW2) objectively had less changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:24:23 No.34263948 Report

Quoted By: >>34263994

>>34263923
Neither was the 3DS, originally. Then it got a virtual shop, patches, and so on.

DS had two or three games with real DLC, and only a few games took advantage of the cartridges's space.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:28:28 No.34263982 Report

Quoted By: >>34264108

>>34263857
>1. DLC exists
doesn't matter, they're still nickle and diming you for the same shit, it was bad then and it's bad now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:29:44 No.34263994 Report

Quoted By: >>34264023

>>34263948
The 3DS was designed for it. Nintendo just has a habit of not having all their system features easy at launch.

Now name those two or three games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:30:21 No.34263997 Report

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>>34263043
I never played BW2 and USM was shit

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:33:46 No.34264023 Report

Quoted By: >>34264067 >>34264108

>>34263994
I only know that there are two or three, the only one i actually know personally is this one. Its cartridge has empty but useable space for that reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:39:17 No.34264067 Report

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>>34264023
Those are free downloads. Show paid dlc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:41:00 No.34264080 Report

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>>34263043
It is important to remember that things like "added basically nothing" and "disappointing" oftentimes just means that "plenty of things were added and changed, just nothing I wanted." That's not just Pokemon, that's just life.
Negative opinions abd reviews are always like this, but ask yourself this: How much of the things said in those reviews do *I* really care about? For example, for me, the lack of walking Pokemon doesn't mean shit, because I don't care about that. Never have. Therefore, it has no bearing on my decision as to whether to purchase the games.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:41:57 No.34264085 Report

Quoted By:

>>34263111
>To be fair Platinum was pretty fucking good.
fucking DiaPer fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:43:28 No.34264096 Report

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>>34263925
Oh, that.
Well, yeah, that's totally true.

But you know, as usual some of theses anons are blind mostly because there is too much cutscenes or it's not the post-game content they wanted. (MUH POSTGAME)
Outside of the lack of changes like every third versions (even if it's more than them) and the fact it's been a while since the last one, the real problem is probably the fact that it doesn't IMPROVE enough compared to the original, doesn't fix most of the problems they had with it.
It's not what they wanted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:44:50 No.34264108 Report

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>>34263868
And USUM had to be a retread because.....? You're basically saying it's ok for the game to be low effort as long as they label it as low effort.

>>34263875
>Because BW2 is a sequel that merely uses the same location and characters? All the others are retelling of the same story.
See above.

>Yeah and it existed in the DS era too
No it didn't. Every DS game that had "DLC" was just locked content that was already on the cartridge.

>>34263982
Except with DLC I don't need to rebuy the entire game again.

>>34264023
This game is basically just downloading MP3s and storing them. It's not patching the game with actual map and character content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 19:44:51 No.34264109 Report

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>>34263043
The thing is that S/M were pretty meh games, so adding more to them isn't as great as adding more to Ruby/Sapphire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 20:27:38 No.34264394 Report

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>Crystal, Emerald and Platinum
Expansions to great games.

>USUM
Unfinished expansion to an unfinished game.

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