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>breederfags
>soullessly replace their pokemon by releasing hundreds of helpless baby pokemon into the wild and eventually picking a new one

>injectionbros
>simply modify their bros so they can continue using them in competitive games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 21:52:10 No.34265055 Report

Quoted By: >>34265115

>>34264896
PKSM? yes it has been updated a few days ago

download here https://github.com/BernardoGiordano/PKSM/releases

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 21:57:25 No.34265115 Report

Quoted By: >>34265492 >>34270482

>>34264896
>>34265055
pksm fucks up mons even when just editing
don't even touch it with a 50 foot pole

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:00:24 No.34265143 Report

Quoted By: >>34265258 >>34265384 >>34267052 >>34269391

How about we just get rid of natures? IVs too, while we're at it. These stupid, arbitrary stat modifiers are not fun and they're not intuitive. How many normal players know about effort and individual values?

I want to be able to personalize my Pokemon in more significant ways, like appearance (not tied to shinies, because that system is also shit) and behavior (different battle animations, for instance). Pokemon is meant to be a role playing game involving monsters that you bond with, not a number generator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:13:32 No.34265258 Report

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>>34265143
get out normie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:27:12 No.34265349 Report

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>>34264859
>My genetically enhanced battle slaves will never develop multiple personalities through intense training

Why even live?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:32:12 No.34265384 Report

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>>34265143
A U T I S M

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:39:02 No.34265428 Report

Quoted By: >>34269436 >>34269529

>TMs are already infinite use now
>EVs are basically fine as they are
>carry over Hyper Trainer into future games for IVs
>put in a way to change effective Nature
>allow Ability Capsule to change between regular and hidden Abilities

There, do that and with a bit of effort you can make all your bros competitively viable. The only thing you would need to breed for are Egg Moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:46:30 No.34265492 Report

Quoted By: >>34267113

>>34265115
In what way? Are they detected online?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:49:52 No.34265516 Report

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>>34264859
It's the same as IRL: nothing can change the fact that you're a faggot, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 22:54:39 No.34265558 Report

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>>34264859
Why don't you change your own nature first?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Nov 2017 23:08:38 No.34265694 Report

Quoted By: >>34266608

I have a feeling this will be Gen 8s thing, like IVs were in SM

Latley they've been making a huge push to make any given pokemon viable someway, and they said its one of the biggest reasons they pushed for Z-Moves because every mon has acess to them

Natures are the last real roadblock but I predict by the next game, any in game bro you use will have ways to be maxed out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 01:02:09 No.34266608 Report

Quoted By: >>34267094

>>34265694
>Natures are the last real roadblock
Egg moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 01:15:46 No.34266713 Report

Quoted By: >>34269386

>>34264859
>XY
>Guy mentions how it would be nice if you could change what ball a Pokémon is in
>"Oh, that's an obvious teaser for one of Z's features."
>There is no Z
>It's not in ORAS
>It's not in SM
>It's not in USUM

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 02:04:20 No.34267052 Report

Quoted By: >>34268297

>>34265143
DSP plz go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 02:08:27 No.34267079 Report

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>>34265025
Breedfags always lose

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 02:10:49 No.34267094 Report

Quoted By:

>>34266608

What I’d kill for a move tutor but with egg moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 02:13:21 No.34267113 Report

Quoted By: >>34270482

>>34265492
Look up PKSM's issues page. The latest release is a fucking mess.

https://github.com/BernardoGiordano/PKSM/issues/573
This is the by far the most critical issue.
It has a bug where it flags the Pokemon as traded as it should but leaves the current handler blank, which makes the Pokemon illegal.
I tested this myself by using its bank to massively transfer my Pokemon from Moon to Ultra Sun, opened the save in PKHex and they were all flagged as illegal due to a blank handler.
Also the app failed to flag any of them in the in-game Pokedex.

It's just broken as shit and yes you can get banned by using illegal Pokemon. Who knows what else it breaks in your save file.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 03:09:21 No.34267437 Report

Quoted By: >>34269564

>>34265025
>breeders
>inbreed their pokemon to create the "perfect" one a la puppy farms, because they don't care about the pokemon

>injectors
>forcefully change pokemon, making them unrecognisable from what they used to be, because they can't love them for who they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 05:05:57 No.34268264 Report

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Who cares about natures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 05:07:27 No.34268277 Report

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>brainwashing your Pokémon
Slow down, edgehead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 05:08:58 No.34268297 Report

Quoted By:

>>34267052
>DSP
Oh god, please don't open that can of worms on /vp/. It's bad enough already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 07:57:47 No.34269386 Report

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>>34266713
Apparently the pokemon world has never heard of custom cases

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 07:58:21 No.34269391 Report

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>>34265143
Natures are fine. IVs, I agree though. They're annoying as fuck. EV Training would be enough to differentiate one pokémon from another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 08:01:15 No.34269415 Report

Quoted By: >>34269564 >>34270420 >>34270854

>literally change the very nature of a pokemon in order to further your competitive goals
only team rocket would do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 08:04:34 No.34269436 Report

Quoted By: >>34270493

>>34265428
There needs to be an eggmove tutor that makes them relearnable. Make the BP cost as much as mega stones at the least or higher to not completely replace breeding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 08:19:40 No.34269529 Report

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>>34265428
They aren't your "bros" if you go as far as to change their very nature. They're completely different Pokemon wearing the discarded shell of your bros. It's as if their personality died and a ghost took over their body.

But I don't expect heartless competitivefags to actually care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 08:23:22 No.34269553 Report

Quoted By:

>>34264875
OP BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 08:26:06 No.34269564 Report

Quoted By: >>34269603 >>34270420 >>34270854

>>34267437
>>34269415
If I was a Pokemon I'd rather have my absolute peak potential realized than getting scrapped for being shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 08:32:00 No.34269603 Report

Quoted By: >>34270420 >>34270854

>>34269564
>yes master, completely change my very nature with some fucking pill so I'm an entirely different person for your own ends such that I may as well have died, that's the key to "my" happiness

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 11:25:47 No.34270420 Report

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>>34269415
>>34269564
>>34269603
they're lines of code you fucking autists

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 11:29:49 No.34270438 Report

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I mean...Obedience training is a real thing you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 11:38:16 No.34270482 Report

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>>34265115
>>34267113
A thousand times this.

>>34264896
Back up your save files with JKSM or Checkpoint, transfer them to your computer, and use PKHeX.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 11:41:01 No.34270493 Report

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>>34269436
Then they wouldn't be Egg Moves, they'd just be Move Tutor Moves.

>>34264859
They should just be like books as they were in DWM.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 12:58:22 No.34270854 Report

Quoted By: >>34271686 >>34272411

>>34269415
>>34269564
>>34269603
>forcing generations upon generations of incestous breeding with a Ditto and Offspring in order to produce Genetically Superior Results is completely okay
>but changing a Pokemon's Nature is wrong you guys :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 15:20:44 No.34271672 Report

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>>34264859
Say if it did indeed happen.
What would you have to do in order to change a mon's nature?
Just pay some scientist and tell him the desired nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 15:23:26 No.34271686 Report

Quoted By: >>34272368 >>34272744 >>34275081

>>34270854
>letting pokemon mate with ditto on their own and releasing lots of happy healthy offspring into the wild is bad
there is LITERALLY nothing wrong with pokemon incest, the game code proves it. there is no retard mutation clause

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 17:09:13 No.34272359 Report

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>2017
>still no acting schools for pokemon to change nature without resorting to brainwashing
Just teach them to act a certain way during battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 17:10:28 No.34272368 Report

Quoted By: >>34272405

>>34271686
I want an incest variable to track how fucked the family tree is in order to cause IV degeneration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 17:17:18 No.34272405 Report

Quoted By: >>34272988

>>34272368
They should also get mutations for stats and moves. Sounds fun ayyy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 17:18:55 No.34272411 Report

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>>34270854
Incest is frowned upon in humans because it results in retarded offspring and birth defects.

Incest in Pokemon does the opposite. They aren't comparable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 18:09:47 No.34272744 Report

Quoted By: >>34272988 >>34274947

>>34271686
>there is no retard mutation clause
There's no such thing in real life too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 18:41:48 No.34272988 Report

Quoted By: >>34272998 >>34273027

>>34272405
As long as it isn't any existing move, as in having a list of "variant" moves to switch the leveling list with or just shuffling the levels at which you get the moves, I think that could actually be fun.
>rampant incestous breeding in order to get moves that a certain pokemon can only get that way
That'd be hilarious.
>>34272744
King Carlos II of Spain "the Bewitched" says hi. His family tree looks like someone was IV breeding kings, it's worth googling and trying to make sense of.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 18:43:04 No.34272998 Report

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>>34272988
Forgot my picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 18:46:37 No.34273027 Report

Quoted By: >>34274947

>>34272988
Irrelevant, you don't get bad genes because your dad fucked his sister, you get bad genes because your dad had bad genes, as well as his sister, that they both inherited from their incestuous parents and the genes never get any chance of being bred out of the family's gene pool.

You don't have a gene that says "huh oh this is my brothers cum, better give birth to a drooling retard".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:22:08 No.34274892 Report

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>>34264859
Tbh I only want this to legally get around nature locked events, would be pretty cool to finally be able to use Eruption Heatran without crippling my speed, likewise with Aura Sphere Raikou and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:28:48 No.34274947 Report

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>>34272744
>>34273027
I know that

but really it does, when a game has a hunger flag it doesn't simulate breaking down food to its nutritional components then absorbing it into the blood stream and causing a long chain of reactions that result in the flag going away, it's probably just a number and each food item is worth a number

so in reverse, you can say real life has such a flag. because the mechanism that actually causes it was simplified and stripped to become the flag to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:31:09 No.34274960 Report

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>>34265025
How about bottle cappers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:34:30 No.34274988 Report

Quoted By: >>34275006

>>34264887
probably an npc

>pokemon therapist
>you can leave up to three pokemon with this character. she will hold onto them for a few days then return them with a new, random nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:35:39 No.34275006 Report

Quoted By: >>34275027

>>34274988
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>random

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:37:45 No.34275027 Report

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>>34275006
in pokemon random means determined by an algorithim

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:41:05 No.34275067 Report

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>>34264859
Anon that's literally brainwashing. We've been over this, go play Colosseum again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:42:08 No.34275081 Report

Quoted By: >>34275102

>>34271686
Releasing them is bad because of over population and resource drain. Think of why Yungoos was brought in. Or why Corsola are rescued by Aether so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:44:24 No.34275102 Report

Quoted By: >>34275189

>>34275081
I've never seen my releasing change the ecosystem of the game. another clause that does not exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 22:52:27 No.34275189 Report

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>>34275102
Consider this: you can only release from the storage system, which is able to transfer pokemon as data to different locations instantly. Perhaps releasing them doesn't release them where you are (since that would be inside a pokemon center), but tells the box administrator that you want the pokemon back in the wild. It could potentially be released anywhere connected to the box system, and perhaps the most suitable area is chosen for each species

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 23:19:07 No.34275464 Report

Quoted By: >>34275479

>>34264859
>GameFreak hasn't just simply made Stadium 3 to be like Showdown but with Minigames and shit
>GameFreak will continue to make breeding/teambuilding hard to get into and will continue to make shitty rules for VGC
>GameFreak will continue to not realize the best way to fight injectors is to make a teambuilder

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 23:20:53 No.34275479 Report

Quoted By: >>34275739

>>34275464
>dude the best way to fight gold sellers is a real money auction house

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 23:49:45 No.34275739 Report

Quoted By: >>34275763

>>34275479
How won't a Teambuilder for online or Stadium 3 like it is on Showdown stop injectors from using injected Pokemon in VGC? It makes injectfags the new breedfags since it cuts out the need to hack your 3DS, and like Showdown, they can implement a verification to see if the sets can be done on cart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2017 23:52:35 No.34275763 Report

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>>34275739
It will stop them. In the same way legalising the selling of hard drugs on the street corner will stop drug lords

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