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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 08:01:53 No.34279597 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34280015 >>34281622 >>34287973 >>34288206

What does Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgale and, Lunala mean for the way we define and view Legendaries? How does their existence effect fan theories and canon information?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 08:03:58 No.34279607 Report

Quoted By: >>34280005

Nothing, there already exist pokemon that can evolve into multiple different evolution paths based on outside influence. The light beams from the temples and flutes and shit are probably just functioning like a combination of rare candies and evolutionary stones

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 09:17:53 No.34280005 Report

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>>34279607
None of which are legendaries, however. Which I'm sure you know is what I was implying..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 09:19:41 No.34280015 Report

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>>34279597
>What does Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgale and, Lunala mean for the way we define and view Legendaries?
That some legendaries have an evolutionary line
>How does their existence effect fan theories and canon information?
They don't affect anything, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 15:00:01 No.34281622 Report

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>>34279597
>Manaphy and Phione
>Carbink and Diancie
>Mew and Mewtwo
Really ultimately nothing, and if you want to include the anime we have seen smaller, younger legendaries before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 15:11:58 No.34281676 Report

Quoted By: >>34281691 >>34281692 >>34286601

Prof. Rowan's research is basically useless now because IIRC he was studying why legendaries don't evolve to and from anything and regular Pokemon do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 15:15:52 No.34281691 Report

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>>34281676
rowan btfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 15:15:55 No.34281692 Report

Quoted By: >>34284378

>>34281676
and now we know of some that do, so why don't most? or why do these? he could also research the effects ultra space has on legendary evolution, since the cosmog line are ubs unlike other unevolving legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 15:26:03 No.34281734 Report

Quoted By: >>34281879

the fact that phione STILL can't evolve into manaphy just makes me angry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 15:53:59 No.34281879 Report

Quoted By: >>34286440

>>34281734

It's not supposed to and never will. Phione is meant to be a shitty replacement for Manaphy for people that can't get an event one. If you could endlessly breed rare event legends what would even be the point of them? However, why only Manaphy got a shitty knock-off and none of the other legends did is anyone's guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 20:48:23 No.34284352 Report

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It literally means one thing: Don't assume shit we aren't told. Legends can evolve if a game comes out with a legend that can evolve. Legends can breed if a game comes out with a legend that can breed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 20:50:58 No.34284378 Report

Quoted By: >>34284454 >>34287961

>>34281692
Remember we don't technically know the Cosmog lines are UBs. Just that they can open Wormholes that lead to UBs. It wouldn't be the first mon that can go to alternate dimensions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 20:56:49 No.34284454 Report

Quoted By: >>34284490 >>34286224

>>34284378
love this meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 21:00:17 No.34284490 Report

Quoted By: >>34286224 >>34287961

>>34284454
I love the meme where people say "I love this meme" about literal facts.
Last generation you would have said "I love this meme" if someone said "Remember we don't technically know legends can't evolve, just that we've never seen one that can" and you'd be just as retarded then.
The only reason to think they are UBs (And they obviously are) is "they can go to Ultra Space" and "The Aether Foundation thinks they might be"
The former is circular logic, the latter is meaningless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2017 23:57:02 No.34286224 Report

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>>34284454
>>34284490
no, dutygenerate is not for love.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 00:22:10 No.34286440 Report

Quoted By: >>34286580 >>34286610

>>34281879

Phyone is the I in the IV gen. You see phione+manaphy = IV, that is 4th gen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 00:36:23 No.34286580 Report

Quoted By: >>34287866

>>34286440

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 00:38:10 No.34286601 Report

Quoted By: >>34287698 >>34287834 >>34287971

>>34281676
But the Cosmog arent "legendary", they are Ultra Beasts. Poke-Earths evolution rules do not apply.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 00:38:59 No.34286610 Report

Quoted By: >>34287866

>>34286440
I'm usually pretty good at deciphering retards, but what the fuck is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 02:33:05 No.34287698 Report

Quoted By: >>34287932

>>34286601
>they are Ultra Beasts.
Nothing implies that they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 02:46:27 No.34287834 Report

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>>34286601
>this meme again
all of the ultra beasts are considered legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 02:49:38 No.34287866 Report

Quoted By: >>34287899

>>34286580
>>34286610
Not even the guy who posted it and I can tell he's talking about their antennae. God you two are stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 02:53:24 No.34287899 Report

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>>34287866
You're really going to call others stupid when you can't see that anon's post was completely irrelevant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 02:56:59 No.34287932 Report

Quoted By: >>34287971 >>34288002

>>34287698
Their cries have the same metallic sound that all other UBs have

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 02:59:50 No.34287961 Report

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>>34284378
>>34284490
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:01:16 No.34287971 Report

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>>34286601
>>34287932
They're born on Earth, but spend much of their lifecycle traveling through other dimensions in ultra space
like how penguins are born on land but spend most of their time in the sea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:01:22 No.34287973 Report

Quoted By: >>34288057

>>34279597
Phione is now legendary/mythical/whatever. The debate is over

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:04:23 No.34288002 Report

Quoted By: >>34288256

>>34287932
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:07:19 No.34288030 Report

Quoted By: >>34288053

Legendaries are pokemon that cannot breed the same species or a evolution relative with a Ditto. Prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:09:57 No.34288053 Report

Quoted By: >>34288191

>>34288030
Manaphy can, Unown can't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:10:29 No.34288057 Report

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>>34287973
It's not, but even if it were, Phione-Manaphy aren't an evolutionary line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:18:31 No.34288107 Report

Quoted By: >>34288337

Excuse my autism.

Gen II introduced Trio masters. (Ho-oh) Lugia was film-only
Gen III introduced Trio Masters within the same trio (Rayquaza)
Gen IV introduced breedable legendaries (Manaphy)
Either Gen V or VI broke the trio tradition
Gen VII introduced legendary evolutions (Cosmog, and later Type: Null)
Gen VII also introduced multiple of the same legendaries in a single game (UBs)
Gen VII even introduced sub-legendaries, downgrading the status of non-box legendaries discluding Zygarde.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:28:50 No.34288191 Report

Quoted By: >>34288208

>>34288053
Ditto and Unown aren't legendaries just because. Manaphy doesn't breed another Manaphy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:30:07 No.34288206 Report

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>>34279597
Legendary Pokemon have always just been rare Pokemon humans interpreted as demigod-like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:30:13 No.34288208 Report

Quoted By: >>34288235

>>34288191
Phione may not be able to evolve into Manaphy, but it's still a mythical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:32:34 No.34288235 Report

Quoted By: >>34288287

>>34288208
It's not. You can trade that abort-wannabe over GTS unlike a real mythical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:34:04 No.34288256 Report

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>>34288002
Yes, they do (even cosmog and cosmoem do)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j6SvwHK6C9Q

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:36:50 No.34288274 Report

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I wouldn't be surprised if they make a 4 stage evolutionary line at the rate they're going.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:38:59 No.34288287 Report

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>>34288235
Well it's not a main legendary, so what new category is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 03:43:19 No.34288337 Report

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>>34288107
>Gen VII even introduced sub-legendaries, downgrading the status of non-box legendaries discluding Zygarde.
No, that was just a weird regional quirk. Japan has always had separate terms for the two types of Pokemon, but the west always just called them all "Legendaries". Since the two categories were separated in the data now, they finally needed to come up with English equivalent terms. They just decided to make the lesser legendaries get the unique prefix instead of the big ones, like fans sometimes do with "Box Legendary".

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