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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 22:50:52 No.34296901 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34297062 >>34297125 >>34297167 >>34297650 >>34298387 >>34298407 >>34298421 >>34298473 >>34298524 >>34299563

>gen 3 remakes came one generation too late

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 22:53:08 No.34296924 Report

Quoted By: >>34296935 >>34296936 >>34297042 >>34297086 >>34299595

Gen III and its remakes sucked, you only liked it because you were a little dumb kid playing them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 22:54:05 No.34296935 Report

Quoted By: >>34297020

>>34296924

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 22:54:11 No.34296936 Report

Quoted By: >>34296941

>>34296924
nah they were cool for that time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 22:55:12 No.34296941 Report

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>>34296936
emerald is still a top tier pokemon game

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:04:12 No.34297020 Report

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>>34296935

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:06:52 No.34297042 Report

Quoted By: >>34297057 >>34297812

>>34296924
>Gen. with some of the best exploration is the worst

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:08:08 No.34297057 Report

Quoted By: >>34297982

>>34297042
>Surfing endless water routes and diving through countless identical mazes is good exploration
Wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:08:33 No.34297062 Report

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>>34296901
>2 gens early *

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:10:26 No.34297086 Report

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>>34296924
>Gen ___ sucked, you only liked it because you were a little dumb kid playing them.
pokemon is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:15:04 No.34297125 Report

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>>34296901
>wanting them to be remade in the worst gen

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:19:27 No.34297167 Report

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>>34296901
>gen 2 remakes came in the right generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:42:59 No.34297439 Report

Quoted By: >>34299583

I want to say that the remakes are done per console since FRLG was on the GBA, HGSS was on the DS and ORAS was on the 3DS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:45:10 No.34297465 Report

Quoted By: >>34297491

Why is the knee jerk reaction to literally everything on this board to shit on something and say whoever likes it has bad taste

It's so tedious at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:47:51 No.34297491 Report

Quoted By: >>34298312

>>34297465
>newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:03:14 No.34297650 Report

Quoted By: >>34297656 >>34297768 >>34297892

>>34296901
Why in the everloving fuck would you have wanted ORAS to be in gen V instead? What the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:03:49 No.34297656 Report

Quoted By: >>34297740

>>34297650
Because it would have probably had the battle frontier, since XY hadn't removed it yet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:12:05 No.34297740 Report

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>>34297656
>since XY hadn't removed it yet
Excuse me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:15:06 No.34297768 Report

Quoted By:

>>34297650
because it was before Ohmori shat up the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:18:50 No.34297812 Report

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>>34297042
Plebs can't appreciate how well laid out Hoenn was. Just about every time you have to backtrack to a previous area, the game gives you a choice between taking a short route straight there, or taking a longer route through a brand new area that just became available. It's fucking great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:25:53 No.34297892 Report

Quoted By: >>34297957

>>34297650
>not wanting RSE remakes in the last generation where gamefreak actually cared

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:31:23 No.34297957 Report

Quoted By: >>34298002

>>34297892
How the fuck could they remake RSE in the same gen as RSE? Do you have brain damage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:33:30 No.34297982 Report

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>>34297057
Aww little brainlet got lost on his way to mossdeep
Anon was most likely talking about the cave and land routes, but the Water routes were also designed well. Only downside is the shit Pokemon distribution in water

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:34:36 No.34298002 Report

Quoted By: >>34298054

>>34297957

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:40:57 No.34298054 Report

Quoted By: >>34298065

>>34298002
He's saying that the last gen. they cared in was R/S/E.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:42:37 No.34298065 Report

Quoted By: >>34298095

>>34298054
Yes, they cared a lot.
They cared about making this gen ugly, horrible soundfont, removing features, terrible sprites animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:45:30 No.34298095 Report

Quoted By: >>34298110

>>34298065
Are you talking about gen 2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:46:57 No.34298110 Report

Quoted By: >>34298126

>>34298095
No, gen III.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:48:53 No.34298126 Report

Quoted By: >>34298156

>>34298110
Pretty sure you're talking about gen II where they removed most of Kanto and the Safari Zone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:51:25 No.34298156 Report

Quoted By: >>34298172 >>34298175 >>34298283

>>34298126
Most? You mean one or two places?
You're problably mad because in RSE they removed all of Kanto. But they at least brought back the dafari zone instead of creating a new concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:53:08 No.34298172 Report

Quoted By: >>34298206

>>34298156
>You're problably mad because in RSE they removed all of Kanto.

Focusing on one region was the best decision considering they needed Iwata's help just to get Kanto in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:53:30 No.34298175 Report

Quoted By: >>34298206

>>34298156
Yeah they were really lazy with abilities, growing berries, the battle frontier... Not at all like removing every dungeon in Kanto lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:56:13 No.34298206 Report

Quoted By: >>34298246 >>34298248

>>34298172
>Focusing on one region was the best decision considering they needed Iwata's help just to get Kanto in
Sure. Let's make the game one region, 8 gyms, and a E4. How it's called again? Gen I pandering?
>>34298175
Actually they were pretty lazy with abilities. Pressure for evebody, Lightning rod useless, sturdy useless, a lot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:59:29 No.34298246 Report

Quoted By: >>34298259

>>34298206
>Sure. Let's make the game one region, 8 gyms, and a E4. How it's called again? Gen I pandering?

Quality > quantity. Better one good region than two mediocre regions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:59:38 No.34298248 Report

Quoted By: >>34298259

>>34298206
>Actually they were pretty lazy with abilities.
Yeah they should have handled them like gen 2. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:00:55 No.34298259 Report

Quoted By: >>34298272 >>34298277

>>34298246
>Better one good region
Yet, we didn't get one.
>>34298248
It's funny because you Hoennbabbies are always mad at gen II for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:02:17 No.34298272 Report

Quoted By: >>34298299

>>34298259
>It's funny because you Hoennbabbies are always mad at gen II for some reason.

For what? If anything it's the opposite. Johtoddlers still can't get over not being able to transfer their shitmons into Gen. 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:02:36 No.34298277 Report

Quoted By: >>34298299

>>34298259
Why would I be mad at gen 2? I'm just having fun shitting on you and what you like. It's gen 5 that's on my shit list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:03:09 No.34298283 Report

Quoted By: >>34298287 >>34298299 >>34298304 >>34298363 >>34298413

>>34298156
>You mean one or two places?
>unknown dungeon
>pokemon tower
>one of the underground paths
>safari zone
>the rest of seafoam

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:03:50 No.34298287 Report

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>>34298283
You forgot the power plant being scrapped. I personally don't think that one is a big deal, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:04:55 No.34298299 Report

Quoted By: >>34298309 >>34298333 >>34298343

>>34298272
>If anything it's the opposite
Not really. We were talking about gen III and then you or the other anon called gen II for no reason.
>>34298277
>Why would I be mad at gen 2?
I don't know.
> I'm just having fun shitting on you and what you like
I like?
>>34298283
Great, now tell me how much they removed in RSE. And they removed Johto as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:05:09 No.34298304 Report

Quoted By: >>34298343

>>34298283
Also Cinnabar, Viridian Forest, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:05:42 No.34298309 Report

Quoted By: >>34298317

>>34298299
>Great, now tell me how much they removed in RSE.
Nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:05:46 No.34298312 Report

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>>34297491
he’s literally right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:06:33 No.34298317 Report

Quoted By: >>34298342 >>34298363

>>34298309
>Nothing
Check again, anon. There is no Kanto or Johto in RSE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:07:32 No.34298333 Report

Quoted By: >>34298363

>>34298299
>now tell me how much they removed in RSE.
>apricorn balls
>day and night graphics
That's about it really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:08:14 No.34298342 Report

Quoted By: >>34298379

>>34298317
Did you even finish the games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:08:19 No.34298343 Report

Quoted By: >>34298363

>>34298304
Viridian Forest wasn't scrapped, it's still there (essentially) but doesn't have that route change. Cinnabar is also still there, but it's been remodeled because of the eruption. So I guess you could say they removed Pokemon Mansion without adding in a volcanic cave in exchange or something. To be fair, the memory constraints are still a looming problem.
>>34298299
>Great, now tell me how much they removed in RSE. And they removed Johto as well.
>they removed Johto
You can't remove something that was never in the game to begin with. It's "they didn't include it" not "they removed it". Do you even understand what you're saying? A better thing to say would be that they removed the ability to transfer mons from the previous gen or that they removed the day/night feature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:10:51 No.34298363 Report

Quoted By: >>34298378 >>34298381 >>34298413

>>34298333
I was thinking more like this >>34298317
I mean, I can list
>Pallet town
>route 1
>viridian city
But it would take a while.
>>34298343
>You can't remove something that was never in the game to begin with
That list >>34298283 wasn't removed. It's simply wasn't in the game. I don't understand Hoennbabbies logic. You complain about no Viridian forest in Gen II, but it's ok when RSE did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:11:52 No.34298378 Report

Quoted By: >>34298394

>>34298363
Because RSE didn't pretend to have Kanto in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:11:55 No.34298379 Report

Quoted By: >>34298384

>>34298342
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:12:07 No.34298381 Report

Quoted By: >>34298394

>>34298363
>It's simply wasn't in the game that featured the same region they appeared in
Ergo, they were removed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:12:50 No.34298384 Report

Quoted By: >>34298394

>>34298379
Then you should know about when you take the SS Anne to Kanto and then you can travel to Johto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:12:52 No.34298387 Report

Quoted By:

>>34296901
fucking this dude...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:13:50 No.34298394 Report

Quoted By: >>34298415 >>34298426

>>34298378
And you're John Gamefreak, right?
You can't complain about something that is not in one game, and say it's ok when other game did it.
>>34298381
Ok, so they removed features in gen III. GLad we agree.
>>34298384
Best reply I got.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:14:42 No.34298407 Report

Quoted By: >>34298613

>>34296901
At least ORAS gave us best boy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:14:53 No.34298413 Report

Quoted By: >>34298427

>>34298363
>>That list >>34298283 wasn't removed. It's simply wasn't in the game.
>hey, here's Kanto
>except that we took out Seafoam Islands, Unknown Dungeon, and some other things
>by definition, this means they are removing things from Kanto
>here's a gen 3 game, it doesn't contain Kanto and never did
>therefore, because it didn't include Kanto, you can't say that it removed those bits and pieces from Kanto
>therefore, Hoenn didn't remove Kanto or anything related to Kanto. It didn't include it, however
Do you understand mister shitposter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:15:06 No.34298415 Report

Quoted By: >>34298427

>>34298394
There's a difference between "This game has Kanto in it too! Btw all the interesting locations are gone" and "This game doesn't have Kanto in it"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:16:27 No.34298421 Report

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>>34296901
OR/AS were great. I don't think they would be good at all if made with sun and moon's design philosophy (which seems to be "bother the player with useless dialogue and bullshit every two steps").

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:16:36 No.34298426 Report

Quoted By: >>34298450

>>34298394
>Ok, so they removed features in gen III. GLad we agree
They weren't intended to be a part of Gen 3 so no, they weren't removed. Kanto on the other hand was intended to be a part of the Gen 2 games, several of these areas do not exist in the Gen 2 games in other words, they were removed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:16:38 No.34298427 Report

Quoted By: >>34298443

>>34298413
>wasn't removed. It's simply wasn't in the game
Makes no sense. Call it whatever you want, It's not in GSC or RSE.
>>34298415
Be honest with me, do you miss the viridian forest or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:18:38 No.34298443 Report

Quoted By: >>34298463

>>34298427
Yes. I was quite happy when HGSS brought it back. I only wish they restored everything else, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:19:11 No.34298450 Report

Quoted By: >>34298469 >>34298495

>>34298426
it's the same of saying: Unknow dungeon was't intend to be in GSC. (to be honest, it's probably the reason, Red catch Mewtwo in gen I, so UD would be useless in gen II.
Like I said to the other anon, do you miss the unknow dungeon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:20:31 No.34298463 Report

Quoted By: >>34298472

>>34298443
Ok, so I understand that you hate both GSC and RSE then. Glad we talk. I don't share your opinion, but I can respect it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:21:18 No.34298469 Report

Quoted By: >>34298501

>>34298450
unknown dungeon wasn't included because of memory constraints, that is likely the reason why kanto is missing some stuff. most of it was brought back beyond story-related areas like the power plant and pokemon tower

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:21:34 No.34298472 Report

Quoted By: >>34298501

>>34298463
I don't hate GSC. I just stop playing once I beat the Elite Four.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:21:39 No.34298473 Report

Quoted By: >>34298478 >>34298484

>>34296901
Do we still hate OR/AS because it has no battle frontier?
I'm starting to believe the only thing emerald did right is the battle frontier from the complaints I'm hearing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:22:06 No.34298478 Report

Quoted By:

>>34298473
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:22:43 No.34298484 Report

Quoted By: >>34298491 >>34298497 >>34298503

>>34298473
Only complaints I hear about gen 3 are
>no day/light stuff
>no previous gen transferal
>water routes have shit distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:23:45 No.34298491 Report

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>>34298484
oh, and the rival being shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:24:08 No.34298495 Report

Quoted By: >>34298528

>>34298450
>Unknow dungeon was't intend to be in GSC.
Then they shouldn't have put Kanto in if they didn't want to add the iconic locations.
>do you miss the unknow dungeon?
It's additional exploration in a game with a focus on it, what do you think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:24:20 No.34298497 Report

Quoted By: >>34298537

>>34298484
Worth noting that they didn't have night in the GBA games because they were afraid of making games too dark back then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:24:25 No.34298501 Report

Quoted By: >>34298551

>>34298469
>unknown dungeon wasn't included because of memory constraints
says who? Some hacks restored and it didn't use too much data. Maybe they want to imply that Red catch Mewtwo and the cave was destroyed later.
>>34298472
I see. Well, not everbody plays the same the same way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:24:32 No.34298503 Report

Quoted By: >>34298537 >>34298566

>>34298484
The battle frontier thing is the only complaint I hear but everyone seems to think oras are still the worst pokemon games ever made, which is ironic since aside from the missing BF it's a straight upgrade in every single way to R/S/E.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:25:58 No.34298524 Report

Quoted By: >>34298690

>>34296901
>The battle frontier project has started!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:26:25 No.34298528 Report

Quoted By: >>34298568

>>34298495
>Then they shouldn't have put Kanto in if they didn't want to add the iconic locations
Says the random anon on 4chan who hates the game anyway.
>It's additional exploration in a game with a focus on it, what do you think.
It's an empty cave without Mewtwo. It's would be disappointed to get at the end of a cave and see no Mewtwo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:27:35 No.34298537 Report

Quoted By: >>34298548

>>34298503
I don't think they're the worst. I enjoyed them so long as the exp share is off, that thing makes the game really dull otherwise
>>34298497
What? Why? The GBC didn't have a backlight either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:28:45 No.34298548 Report

Quoted By: >>34298562

>>34298537
The GBA's screen was even harder to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:29:08 No.34298551 Report

Quoted By: >>34298589

>>34298501
>says who? Some hacks restored and it didn't use too much data. Maybe they want to imply that Red catch Mewtwo and the cave was destroyed later.
says masuda/usum. the fact that they restored unknown dungeon in hgss seems to imply that there mightve been more they wanted to do with gsc but ran out of time/space/funding to do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:29:47 No.34298562 Report

Quoted By: >>34298578

>>34298548
I played Crystal on the GBA and that's a bullshit claim

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:30:00 No.34298566 Report

Quoted By: >>34298612

>>34298503
That's not the only thing people complain about. They also complain about the teams for NPCs and Gym Leaders. Which is a valid complaint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:30:19 No.34298568 Report

Quoted By:

>>34298528
>Says the random anon on 4chan who hates the game anyway.
Not that anyone said they hated Gen 2.
>It's an empty cave without Mewtwo.
Then add Mewtwo? Hell, expand the cave and put something else there too. It's a video game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:30:59 No.34298578 Report

Quoted By: >>34298598

>>34298562
Gen 2 has a good deal more contrast than gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:31:27 No.34298583 Report

Quoted By:

>people shit on RSE while jerking off GSC
>GSC had terrible diversity in pokemon, awful level curve making it difficult to add new members in the mid to late game, terrible team compositions for its trainers (most of which don't even use new pokemon), two small regions, and was slow as fuck due to the hp bar animation being slow as fuck
I would rather see RSE circlejerking then GSC circlejerking honestly. Even HGSS couldn't save johto and neutered kanto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:31:47 No.34298589 Report

Quoted By:

>>34298551
Not really. Gen II didn't use the gen I legendaries. In later gens, they brought pretty much every legendary back. I don't know if this implies that there are more than one, it's not canon or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:32:39 No.34298598 Report

Quoted By: >>34298618

>>34298578
Well that's a problem with the gen 3's graphics isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:33:15 No.34298612 Report

Quoted By:

>>34298566
I don't think there's been a huge change in NPC and Gym leader pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:33:17 No.34298613 Report

Quoted By:

>>34298407
It gave us some top tier themes too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uugc-DJsuc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jQWyBu3THQ

>tfw ORAS is the last game to have class specific encounter themes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:34:14 No.34298618 Report

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>>34298598
Debatable - either way, giving it even less contrast would not be a good idea for visibility. Castlevania Circle of the Moon had its colors SUPERCHARGED too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:41:13 No.34298690 Report

Quoted By: >>34298708

>>34298524
>The Battle Pyramid blueprints!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:42:42 No.34298708 Report

Quoted By:

>>34298690
Fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 03:09:59 No.34299563 Report

Quoted By: >>34299585 >>34299635

>>34296901
This is something I'll never forget. As a modern game, ORAS sucked ass. Yeah is a complete remakes of the games they were based, but outside of DexNav and Mirage Spots, they are exactly the same Ruby and Sapphire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 03:12:26 No.34299583 Report

Quoted By:

>>34297439
Following this pattern, the Diamond & Pearl remakes (if they actually happen) should be on the Switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 03:12:44 No.34299585 Report

Quoted By:

>>34299563
>they are exactly the same Ruby and Sapphire.
They're literally the remakes that changed the most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 03:13:45 No.34299595 Report

Quoted By:

>>34296924
This. I unironically think III is one of the worst generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 03:15:22 No.34299611 Report

Quoted By: >>34299627

Will gen 4 remakes come in the right generation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 03:17:11 No.34299627 Report

Quoted By:

>>34299611
Not unless Nintendo makes another dual screen system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 03:17:42 No.34299635 Report

Quoted By:

>>34299563
>but outside of DexNav and Mirage Spots
And new designs, updated pokemon rosters, physical/special split, updated level up moves, changes to the story to extend certain sections, more secret base locations, everything about the bottom screen (such as amie, online stuff, and the ev training screen), more mirage islands, and soaring yes it is exactly the same.

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