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Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 20:04:26 No.34362262 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34362266 >>34362281 >>34362374 >>34362419 >>34364320 >>34364326 >>34364349 >>34365047

How is Bisharp still OU? I thought priority took a hit this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 20:05:09 No.34362266 Report

Quoted By: >>34362371 >>34364711 >>34366098

>>34362262
It doesnt rely on priority. Night slash, low kick, poison jab, and swords dance is the new meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 20:06:47 No.34362281 Report

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>>34362262
The priority terrain doesn't matter if you override it with your own tapu. And theres still tons of shit that gives you massive value off defiant, like sticky web getting better distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 20:16:59 No.34362371 Report

Quoted By: >>34362387

>>34362266
>night slash and poison jab on Bisharp
Hi Verlis!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 20:17:37 No.34362374 Report

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>>34362262
Knock Off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 20:18:58 No.34362387 Report

Quoted By: >>34368080 >>34368483

>>34362371
Just because you might think a set is bad does not mean it was made by Verlisify. Though I will admit, heavy slam warlord was not the set that I was expecting, nor is it good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 20:23:00 No.34362419 Report

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>>34362262
lele isn't that hard to kill and tsareena is shit you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 23:47:20 No.34364244 Report

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I'll be back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 23:50:35 No.34364266 Report

Quoted By: >>34364290

priority took a hit because of gale wings nerfs and Tapu Lele's ability, Bisharp obviously doesn't rely on gale wings and beats Lele anyway so her ability is a wash.

Bisharp being the single best Defiant user now that Defog removes hazards makes him super fucking good no matter what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 23:54:31 No.34364290 Report

Quoted By: >>34364441 >>34364864

>>34364266

>Tapu Lele used Focus Blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 23:57:01 No.34364320 Report

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>>34362262
sucker punch got nerfed too which kind of sucks, but stab knock off and pursuit are always good. Defiant is great with all the defoggers and occasional webs also a weakened lando doesn't really want to come in on it either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Dec 2017 23:57:20 No.34364326 Report

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>>34362262
sticky webs, defog and intimidate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 00:00:05 No.34364349 Report

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>>34362262
Bisharp is still good because it's the only good defiant mon in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 00:09:21 No.34364432 Report

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>Defiant
>Good stabs
>Swords Dance
>Priority
>Pursuit
It can punish hard the opponent thanks to Defiant (Intimidate/Defog), Swords Dance + Sucker Punch and/or Pursuit. It's not the most splashable mon, but it shouldn't be underestimated at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 00:10:10 No.34364441 Report

Quoted By: >>34364864

>>34364290

It missed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 00:32:58 No.34364711 Report

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>>34362266
>Night Slash
Yes, let's use the move that only occasionally gets a critical hit over the move that allows it to get rid of an opponent's items.

Only niche Sniper/Super Luck mons use Night Slash over Knock Off.

>Poison Jab
Bisharp ain't running this when it has Iron Head, and it is going to switch out of the Fairies that take more from Poison-type moves anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 00:45:49 No.34364864 Report

Quoted By: >>34368413

>>34364441
>>34364290
Specs Lele doesn’t need Meme Miss anyway:
>252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 310-366 (114.3 - 135%) -- guaranteed OHKO
And non Choice sets run the Fighting Z-Crystal though Bisharp would be a waste of a target since it’s frail so Lele would need hazard support to rely on Moonblast
>252 SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 207-244 (76.3 - 90%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes
Sharp is a shaky check at best

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 01:03:45 No.34365047 Report

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>>34362262
>physical attacker that isn't blanket countered by floating lion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 03:03:50 No.34366098 Report

Quoted By: >>34366109

>>34362266
Oaky, I get that Night Slash is better in doubles (even though we're talking about OU here) but what the hell is Poison Jab for? Doesn't Iron Head kill fairies fine enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 03:05:28 No.34366109 Report

Quoted By: >>34366175

>>34366098
Night Slash isn't even used in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 03:13:43 No.34366175 Report

Quoted By: >>34368032

>>34366109
but doesn't it hit both pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 08:06:47 No.34368032 Report

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>>34366175
KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 08:17:28 No.34368080 Report

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>>34362387
Just because someone says a shit set is Verlis-like doesn't actually mean they think Velis made it, Verlis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 09:53:16 No.34368410 Report

Quoted By: >>34368413

Choice specs Moonblast from lele OHKO's Bisharp as well... it's not easy to work around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 09:54:48 No.34368413 Report

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>>34364864
>>34368410
I guess that was mentioned above too. my bad,

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Dec 2017 10:31:25 No.34368483 Report

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>>34362387
that set is bad
try again

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