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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 00:45:41 No.34381372 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34381425 >>34381434 >>34381463 >>34381629 >>34381706 >>34381708 >>34381717 >>34381931 >>34382168 >>34382719 >>34385107 >>34386543 >>34386610

>shittier gyms
>shittier soaring
>shittier Join Avenue
>shittier Sharpedo surfing
>shittier Battle Factory
>shittier PWT
>shittier Delta Episode
>sub-20 Alolan formes
>Z-moves
USUM and gen 7 as a whole honestly have no right to fucking exist.
Purchasing these games should be considered a crime against humanity and the perpetrator should be shot on SIGHT. Fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 00:46:27 No.34381383 Report

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Quit getting mad over video games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 00:50:07 No.34381419 Report

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not even worthy of a (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 00:50:32 No.34381425 Report

Quoted By: >>34381650 >>34382127 >>34386610

>>34381372
>shittier gyms
The trials themselves were garbage, but Totem Pokemon easily put up more of a challenge than gym leaders.
>shittier soaring
True.
>shittier Join Avenue
True, but I still enjoyed the Festival Plaza.
>shittier Sharpedo surfing
Being able to break through rocks is worse?
>shittier Battle Factory
True.
>shittier PWT
The Battle Tree is the equivalent of the Battle Tower, not the PWT.
>shittier Delta Episode
Rainbow Rocket is way better than Zinnia.
>sub-20 Alolan forms
True. There should have been more and from other gens besides the first.
>Z-moves
True. Mega Evolutions are way cooler and plus there were barely any signature Z-moves compared to Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 00:51:47 No.34381434 Report

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>>34381372
Rainbow Rocket is 10 times better than shitty delta episode

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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 00:52:31 No.34381443 Report

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oh come on, it was fun!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 00:55:23 No.34381463 Report

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>>34381372
>shittier PWT
what PWT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:08:30 No.34381545 Report

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>>34381434
Both were equally bad in different ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:15:48 No.34381595 Report

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>>34381545
No, they are not even close. Delta Episode is awful. Complete Trash. Both story and """gameplay""" wise.

Rainbow Rocket is okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:20:28 No.34381629 Report

Quoted By: >>34381641

>>34381372
>no HMs
This alone makes SM and USUM better than whatever game you have nostalgia for. Sad, but true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:21:45 No.34381641 Report

Quoted By: >>34386588 >>34386610

>>34381629
Wrong. No HMs are a step in the right direction, but there were still many other things they screwed up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:22:52 No.34381650 Report

Quoted By: >>34381672

>>34381425
>True. Mega Evolutions are way cooler and plus there were barely any signature Z-moves compared to Megas.
It was never about how 'cool' they were, but how z-crystals fucked everything up ingame, and competitively. ingame they allow you to oneshot most pokemon and most trainers only have one or two pokemon, so the once per battle thing doesn't matter at all. As well, they fucked up what little balance there is competitively forever... unless z-moves are a gen7 exclusive thing and they discontinue them... which is unlikely

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:26:11 No.34381672 Report

Quoted By: >>34381680

>>34381650
>unless z-moves are a gen7 exclusive thing and they discontinue them... which is unlikely

They'll be post game only in the future like megas are now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:27:24 No.34381680 Report

Quoted By: >>34381808

>>34381672
yep, that's the most likely thing, fuck anything resembling balance forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:29:49 No.34381706 Report

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>>34381372
Battle Agency is supposed to be like the Battle Factory not the PWT how do you even think those two are supposed to be the same lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:29:57 No.34381708 Report

Quoted By: >>34382127

>>34381372
>Totems worse than gyms
How can anyone conceivably feel this way? "Touch three buttons" or "Walk past/around 3 trainers" before "Another trainer" is so much worse than cutesy puzzles/build up to a genuine boss-mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:30:55 No.34381717 Report

Quoted By: >>34381773

>>34381372
>Sou-ouuund!
This game was so fucking lazy, they actually left in the placeholder text. Jesus christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:36:31 No.34381773 Report

Quoted By: >>34382618

>>34381717
Is this bait? You do realise that's the noise it makes? Do you really think the placeholder text for all the totems was fucking "Souound"?
>Water/Bug says "Watah"
>Mantis with scissor claws goes Snip-Snip
>Poison Pokémon says Venom
>Electric mouse says "ZZZZAP"
>Sound Dragon goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:39:43 No.34381808 Report

Quoted By: >>34381929 >>34382038

>>34381680
strong Megas were nerfed in Gen 7 so Z-Moves are likely gonna receive a big nerf in Gen 8 anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:45:53 No.34381855 Report

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Imagine getting this upset over a kids game. You little bitch

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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:49:33 No.34381888 Report

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I honestly hope that if totem pokemon are to be an Alola thing only, future gens at least implement something similar

Gym leaders con use buffs similar to totems in their signature pokemon

I find it funny how in-universe trials are totems are seen as some form of immature battling or of less value than having a proper pokemon league, institutionalized racism or something

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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:54:13 No.34381925 Report

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>Delta Episode
>Good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:54:37 No.34381929 Report

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>>34381808

Funny how Masuda said that Kangeskhan was OP shortly after XY hit and that they were going to nerf it and it took 3 god damn years to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 01:54:42 No.34381931 Report

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>>34381372
>this upset
>game for kids

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:07:03 No.34382038 Report

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>>34381808
Of course, gotta make room for the next gimmick. Which will then dominate the game and be nerfed in Gen 9.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:18:22 No.34382127 Report

Quoted By: >>34382142

>>34381425
>>34381708
They are a challenge but they're worse, they're basically an unfun 2 on 1 gangbang on top of lacking stat buffs. It would've at least been okay if they only kept the buffs, but there was no fucking reason to add ally Pokémon AND a jew strategy on top of that. Literally the only Totem that doesn't jew out on you is Gumshoos and it's only the first one in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:20:20 No.34382142 Report

Quoted By: >>34382184 >>34382268

>>34382127
>Jew out on you
Are you 12? Anyway Totems "jewing" you is the best bit. It's the easiest god damn game in the world, a retard can accidentally sweep a gym if a single party member has a good SE move. Totems actually require some strategy, or at least will completely catch you off guard if your plan is just "Use SE move from best mon"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:23:41 No.34382168 Report

Quoted By: >>34382223 >>34382238 >>34382322

>>34381372
Totems were generally harder than gyms. I used a full team of shitmons and all the handicaps and still breezed through ORAS.
Mantine Surf at least qualifies as a minigame and lets you use some tutor moves in story mode. Soaring was completely pointless, all its functions could be relegated to Fly, including the randomly spawning islands.
What's wrong with Z-moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:25:39 No.34382179 Report

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You forgot a few
>crappier o-powers
>crappier post game/grinding/ev training
>crappier online
>crappier customization

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:26:04 No.34382184 Report

Quoted By: >>34382206 >>34382228 >>34382274

>>34382142
>muh you need to be 18 to post XDD
>knowing what to expect and using a Pokémon accordingly isn't a strategy because I say so!
Not surprised a retard like this would think Totems are good. But hey if you enjoy being raped instead of having a fair 1 on 1 battle that's on you. It's known that Totems are different playstyle killers because gym battles not only allowed regular gameplay but also challenges to be added on top of it, while Totems take away any chances at most of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:28:28 No.34382206 Report

Quoted By: >>34382245

>>34382184
>if you enjoy being raped instead of having a fair 1 on 1 battle
>I HATE CHALLENGE!!! I HATE HAVING TO ACTUALLY TRY TO WORK ON MY TEAM!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:29:33 No.34382223 Report

Quoted By: >>34382265

>>34382168
>What's wrong with Z-moves?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Z-moves were made to give every Pokémon access to a pocket nuke since only certain Pokémon got Megas. The problem is that z-moves made Pokémon who were already good even better while not having much of an effect on Pokémon who aren't as good already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:30:14 No.34382228 Report

Quoted By: >>34382286

>>34382184
>Admitting to underage
>Thinks the game literally telling kids what move to use to OHKO an entire gym is a strategy
What part is a strategy? The part where an NPC tells you what type the gym is an what moves are SE, or the part where the UI tells you moves are SE?
As opposed to
>I'll just SE it in one move
>Totem ate it's berry
>Totem called for help
>Oh I'll just press the same button again, that always works in gyms
>Totems help uses a support ability/sets up

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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:30:28 No.34382232 Report

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>opinions

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:30:48 No.34382238 Report

Quoted By: >>34382277 >>34382293 >>34382311

>>34382168
>What's wrong with Z-moves?
It's a free win button that lets you bust through any remotely challenging part of the game with a single move. It's impossible to balance and completely destroys any chance of the game being challenging. Of course you can just not use it but it's basically an easy mode button that gets shoved in your face all game long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:31:34 No.34382245 Report

Quoted By: >>34382283

>>34382206
Nah, I enjoy challenges in fighting OP mons with OP movesets. Not being unable to tackle two mons and taking on two mon attacks because of core mechanics. Cheap battles ain't fun nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:32:51 No.34382265 Report

Quoted By: >>34383284

>>34382223
That is THE problem with Z-moves, but it's simply not a big problem most of the time.
Objectively good mons usually do good with items than Z-Crystals and shitmons benefit even just from Z variants of moves.
While obviously not competitive powerhouse examples just look at Eevee/Porygon/Xurkitree with EE/Z-Conversion/Z-Hypnosis

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:33:22 No.34382268 Report

Quoted By: >>34382283

>>34382142
Totem Kommo-o with its fairy resist berry in USUM caught me off guard. It wasnt a hard fight but that and the Scizor it summoned did cost me my only pokemon with fairy moves on it since I have no fairies on my team this run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:33:40 No.34382274 Report

Quoted By: >>34382317

>>34382184
>if you enjoy being raped
negro por favor, I have only lost only one mon to a totem and that's because I didn't switch my Brionne prior the Lurantis totem fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:33:54 No.34382277 Report

Quoted By: >>34382297

>>34382238
>Of course you can just not use it

You even admit this yet you still complain about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:34:37 No.34382283 Report

Quoted By: >>34382317 >>34382359

>>34382245
>OP mons with OP movesets
So you hate gyms? Because they have retarded movesets and no strategy whatsoever.
>Cheap battles
Implies they're cheap. If anything Totems are still easy as fuck but at least TRY

>>34382268
Exactly, that's what a "Boss" mon should do.
>Oh shit I thought I was getting a free win, now I have to put effort in

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:35:05 No.34382286 Report

Quoted By: >>34382309

>>34382228
The part where you put a Pokémon according to the gym type and plan to use a certain move. As as simple as it is and as much as you don't like it, it's a strategy. Or you can always choose not to use a Pokémon with SE moves or resists/immunities. It's on you. Totems however, are much more limiting, taking away the process. I don't want to be forced to use a strategy, I want to feel like I can choose my favorite without being fucked over.
>admitting to underage
Literally where lol this is your way to admit you're retarded isn't it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:35:28 No.34382293 Report

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>>34382238
select opponents use z-moves too, are you going to tell them not to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:35:32 No.34382297 Report

Quoted By: >>34382347

>>34382277
Yes, I do? It being optional doesn't make it balanced or good in any way. You might as well just add a setting that makes the game automatically select moves for you, or a setting that lets you skip battles. "B-But it's optional!" doesn't make those a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:36:46 No.34382309 Report

Quoted By: >>34382344

>>34382286
>As simple as it is and as much as you don't like it, it's a strategy
Press A on the button the NPC and UI tell you to is literally not a strategy, it's following instructions

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:36:57 No.34382311 Report

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>>34382238
The games always give you advantages. You can forego using them if you want to make it harder. This has always been the case. USUM's story is also objectively harder than most of the games, designed around access to Z-moves for general play.

Z-moves also add another dimension of gameplay to competitive, which is how mechanics should be evaluated for the aforementioned reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:37:43 No.34382317 Report

Quoted By: >>34382371 >>34382392

>>34382274
>grinding in a kids game

>>34382283
>So you hate gyms? Because they have retarded movesets and no strategy whatsoever.
Platinum

>If anything Totems are still easy as fuck
>But they're still a challenge!
lol you just killed off your own argument good job

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:38:08 No.34382322 Report

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>>34382168
Since they didn't restrict z-moves to only be usable by a pokemon's type (ie a fire type can only use firium z), it allows many already strong pokemon break past possible checks depending on their movepools. just handing all pokemon a 140+ bp move of any type depending on coverage was retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:40:21 No.34382344 Report

Quoted By: >>34382440

>>34382309
>implying
gen 7 games are the only ones where the UI tells you which moves are SE against a type, have you even played other games or are gen 7 games your first Pokémon games ever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:40:53 No.34382347 Report

Quoted By: >>34382360

>>34382297
But it's fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:41:39 No.34382359 Report

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>>34382283
Yeah I thought itd be just as easy as SM but Im glad they made it at least able to last a turn assuming you hit it with a fairy move. Lets it summon a steel mon wholl try to take out your fairy types for it.

The other one I liked was Araquanid whos typing, ability, and permanent rain make it quite a terror to some teams or anyone who thinks a flying mon or grass mon will sweep it out easily at that point in the game.

Shame a lot of the trials suck though. I didnt mind the changes to the Grass Trial, electric puzzle, Ghost Trial, or Fairy Trial in USUM though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:41:48 No.34382360 Report

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>>34382347
Fun isn't real. You think you're having fun but you're not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:42:17 No.34382361 Report

Quoted By: >>34382376

>MUH CHALLENGE

Every fucking time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:43:32 No.34382371 Report

Quoted By: >>34382382

>>34382317
it's called planning you idiot

I caught a Hawlucha counting for the Lurantis fight and it ended sweeping Araquanid too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:44:00 No.34382376 Report

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>>34382361
Maybe you'd be better off watching a movie instead, sweetie. I hear the Pokemon cartoon is still running.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:45:02 No.34382382 Report

Quoted By: >>34382420

>>34382371
>catching Pokémon specifically for a fight and not just using your favorites

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:45:59 No.34382392 Report

Quoted By: >>34382408 >>34382412

>>34382317
>Platinums Gyms require strategy
Lets see
>Press A on any move that SEs rock (Two starters can do this)
>Press A on any move that SEs grass (One starter can do this)
>Press A on any move that SEs ghost
>Press A on any move that SEs fighting
It's worth noting that the second totem in the game can summon up to 2 Pokémon, so that's the same number of total mons as the Fourth Gym in Platinum
>Press A on move that SEs water (One starter has Quad on most of this gym)
>Press A on move that SEs steel (Two starters can do this)
>Press A on move that SEs ice (Two starters can do this)
>Press A on move that SEs electric (One starter can do this

>>34382317
>Totems are harder than gyms at least
>B-BUT THEY'RE STILL EASY BTFO
What?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:48:41 No.34382408 Report

Quoted By: >>34382440

>>34382392
>implying every single move will instantly knock it out and they won't somehow find a way to counter you
>implying you carry all three starters at one
Play the fucking games would you.

>restricts different playstyles but it's still easy
>BETTER than gyms
Not this shit again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:49:25 No.34382412 Report

Quoted By: >>34382440

>>34382392
Grotle gets bite around the time you face the ghost gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:50:04 No.34382420 Report

Quoted By: >>34382426

>>34382382
Used a Hawlucha in X and gladly again. It's one of my favorites.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:51:14 No.34382426 Report

Quoted By: >>34382434 >>34382447

>>34382420
>re-using mons you already used
Is this what being a faggot feels like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:52:22 No.34382434 Report

Quoted By: >>34382442

>>34382426
well what is it fag

>wah, you're using a pokemon just for the game
>wah, you're using your favorites

I have a Kingdra in HoF in every gen except 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:52:57 No.34382440 Report

Quoted By: >>34382499

>>34382408
>Implying every single move will instantly knock it out
Not one gym has a Pokémon that resists the best SE move against them. Play the games would you?

>Implying you carry all three starters at "one"
No I didn't.

>Restricts different playstyles
No, it forces you to do something besides press A on the first move that SEs them

>>34382412
Oh I wasn't including movepools, I was only counting STAB.

>>34382344
No, that's a valid point, but since we're comparing totems to gyms I'm comparing them in the gen that Totems are in, where this happens. In the past you were only told by an NPC, NOW you would also be told by the UI. You are correct there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:53:15 No.34382442 Report

Quoted By: >>34382460

>>34382434
Well, using a Pokémon native to each generation obviously fagboy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:53:33 No.34382447 Report

Quoted By: >>34382517

>>34382426
>it's a rule that you can never use the same pokemon twice or you're a FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!
i bet you nuzlocke your first run of a new game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:54:36 No.34382460 Report

Quoted By: >>34382517

>>34382442
But not one that's ever appeared in a previous region or one that will be useful in your current

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:58:08 No.34382499 Report

Quoted By: >>34382609

>>34382440
>implying only resists can take a move that would otherwise be SE on others
LOL literally outed yourself as never playing other games

>No I didn't.
then don't fucking make it a valid point for all gyms retard

>No, it forces you to do something besides press A on the first move that SEs them
yeah and that's one of the many things you can do. not seeing how that being one of your choices makes Totems any less restricting or gyms giving you much more variety within strategies. are you having issues keeping up? do you want it to stop now?

>that's a valid point
No it isn't. Comparing past core mechanics by standards in which they don't exist isn't valid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 02:59:21 No.34382517 Report

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>>34382447
i don't but it still kind of a pussy thing to do unless you're playing in facilities.

>>34382460
what did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:08:19 No.34382609 Report

Quoted By: >>34382784

>>34382499
>Literally outed yourself as never playing other games
Because I know what the gyms are and you don't? What? Yes, 90% of 3 mon gyms with a shared SE attack will die in three attacks.
>Don't tell me relevant information I'm autistic!
I think it's pretty relevant to count how many gyms come with an automatic win-mon.
>Totems any less restrictic or gyms giving you much more variety within strategies
What strategies are there for gyms besides "Press the move you are told beats the gym"? I've asked you this already. Totems actually require a strategy. You can still use SE moves if your mon can resist both the Totem and the support mon which almost always has coverage/if you have a move that destroys their resist berry but you can't just "Press A to Win"
You seem to be struggling to keep up

>Comparing past core mechanics by standards in which they don't exist isn't valid
You would rather Gyms were in Gen VII than Totems yes? In Gen VII, if there were gyms, you would be told by the UI what move SEs. You would also be told by the NPC at the start of the gym, as you are in previous gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:08:58 No.34382618 Report

Quoted By: >>34382647

>>34381773
>>34381773
Kommo-o actually makes a "clang" sound. Gamefreak was too lazy and/or incompetent to realize that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:11:15 No.34382640 Report

Quoted By: >>34382656 >>34382678

reminder that for pokémon to be """hard""" they had to literally make the battles 2v1, give free setup and have the partner pokémon be able to come back an unlimited ammount of times, nevermind the fact that some totems employ strategies you can't employ yourself outisde of the sparsely featured Double Battles or postgame.

Fuck Totems, they break one of the qualities that set pokémon apart as an RPG, the fact that no opponent in the game can do something you can't, that it's always a fair fight, even if the battles were adjusted to be easier, they would still be breaking one of the coolest aspects in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:12:04 No.34382647 Report

Quoted By: >>34382716

>>34382618
Except they didn't. Again. The bug with a water bubble for a head says "Water", the mouse that tanks a massive electric attack right before turning to you type says "Zap", the Soundproof Dragon that uses Sound attacks says "Sound"
You are implying that the placeholder for all 8 Totems is "Souound"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:12:58 No.34382656 Report

Quoted By: >>34382824

>>34382640
>have the partner pokémon be able to come back an unlimited ammount of times
You lying fuck that doesn't happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:14:45 No.34382678 Report

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>>34382640
>He didn't play the games
Totems have fixed partners retard. Most of them have two different mons, they never come back once you've fainted them. If you kill Lurantis' Sunny Day support it can't use Solar Blade in one turn anymore once the weather fades.

Also you do realise Totem support is just SOS, which is just better designed Horde battles?

>no opponent in the game can do something you can't
Fucking what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:19:20 No.34382716 Report

Quoted By: >>34382747

>>34382647
>You are implying that the placeholder for all 8 Totems is "Souound"
Oh that wasn't me. I was just trying to respond with what I felt like should've been used for Kommo-o's "sound"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:19:31 No.34382719 Report

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>>34381372
>>34381494
Same faggot.

Can't you realize hating on USUM was just a meme and it's over? Just stop, you are making yourself look like a retard and if someone finds you like they did with Luke you'll be remembered as a retard forever here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:22:58 No.34382747 Report

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>>34382716
Oh fair enough, sorry. I get why you would think that, but I'm not sure why it's voice would sound like clanging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:25:28 No.34382769 Report

Quoted By: >>34382803

I didn't play USUM, did they replace the Sou-ouuund! or was it actually intentional?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:26:35 No.34382784 Report

Quoted By: >>34382883

>>34382609
>and you don't
First gym is easy, not gonna lie. Gardenia has a fucking Roserade, good luck having a third stage that is not a route 1 bug shitmon by then. Fantina was ok. Maylene had a bulky Machoke and a Lucario. Do I need to remind you how good gen 4 Lucario was? Crasher Wake had a bulky and offensive as fuck Gyarados, and a Quagsire. Good luck one shotting those two with one mon. Byron was actually pretty easy for me but I had aura sphere by then. Good luck landing all your hits on Candice's Froslass after her Abomasnow set up the hail. I don't think Volkner was that bad but that's the end, there's no excuse for not hitting it hard by then. I hate spoonfeeding retards like you but you're like that retard who asked what if a SE move instantly knocks out a Pokemon?!?!?!?! as if bulk doesn't exist whatsoever.

>What strategies are there for gyms besides
Literally anything, it starts from the moment you decide not to use a Pokemon with a super effective move. Lol a retard calling out someone else as not being able to keep up is the funniest shit ever

>You would rather Gyms were in Gen VII
Yeah but I don't want to be told by the UI which move is SE that's a completely different point that's not relevant, and gyms with instructing UI don't exist so they're not a valid point as much as you try to force it lol, you can't tell if keeping gyms would have been a deciding factor in having a handholding UI or not. So retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:28:07 No.34382803 Report

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>>34382769
Intentional, they all say a word.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:30:05 No.34382824 Report

Quoted By: >>34382933

>>34382656
But it does, if you knock out an ally another one comes out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:38:51 No.34382883 Report

Quoted By: >>34383100

>>34382784
Except unlike you I've played the games and I did OHKO everything with the move that OHKOs everything. An underleveled Infernape will wipe the entire Ice gym in one hit per mon for example.

>Good luck landing all your hits on Frosslass in hail
Oh no, a 4/5 modifier on an incredibly frail mon that wont hurt your mon at all. What if I miss? I'll have to press A again

>?!?!?!?!?!?!
>lol
So you do admit to being underage?

>What is bulk
Nonexistant. They have no IVs or EVs.

>Literally anything
Name literally one.

>Yea but I don't want to be told by the UI
But you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 03:47:18 No.34382933 Report

Quoted By: >>34383114

>>34382824
>Still claiming literal false things that two seconds of googling would reveal
Gumshoos/Raticate summon one (1) Yungoos/Rattata
Araquanid summons one (1) Masquerain and one (1) Dewpider
Marowak summons one (1) Salazzle
Lurantis summons one (1) Castform and one (1) Comfey
Togedemaru summons one (1) Skarmory and one (1) Dedenne
Mimikyu summons one (1) Banette and one (1) Jellicent
Kommo-o summons one (1) Scizor and one (1) Noivern
Ribombee summons one (1) Blissey and one (1) Pelipper
Round 2 Gumshoos/Raticate only summon their prevo again.

If you kill the Totem before it summons something, it never comes. If you kill it's first summon, it can summon the next, if you kill the next it never calls again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:13:11 No.34383100 Report

Quoted By: >>34383140

>>34382883
>implying a mon can't be inherently bulky without EV investment and perfect IVs
>still pushing the if I have one starter that's effective against two or three gyms, then all gyms are equally easy!
Now you're just shitposting with things that are objectively untrue and further outing yourself as in fact, not playing the games. You tried though!

>implying Froslass doesn't have any moves and just expects you to hit it, being able to knock you out in turn in the process

>muh text makes you an underage!! haha I sure showed him!! XD lol =)
You don't even have to pretend you are outright retarded aren't you.

>Name literally one.
Anything? Are you seriously retarded enough to ask to be spoonfed this? lol status moves, set up, anything

>But you are.
But there aren't gyms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:14:31 No.34383114 Report

Quoted By: >>34383135

>>34382933
oh they have multiple allies. I thought since another one came out then it was a nonstop thing. To be fair I wasn't the one to make the initial statement you replied to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:18:08 No.34383135 Report

Quoted By: >>34383156

>>34383114
Then you're still a bit thick for not realising that other guy claimed "Unlimited allies" but at least you know now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:18:33 No.34383140 Report

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>>34383100
torterra literally takes care of all gyms singlehandedly, with exception to the ice gym, Bibarel took care of it last time I played

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:22:06 No.34383156 Report

Quoted By: >>34383199 >>34383205

>>34383135
Do you always attack anyone who doesn't instantly agree with you or are you just having one of those autistic fits yet again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:31:39 No.34383199 Report

Quoted By: >>34383242 >>34383265

>>34383156
What? What did we "disagree" about? Someone claimed Totems summon "unlimited allies"
That is literally a lie. If you are that person, you're an idiot or a liar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:34:19 No.34383205 Report

Quoted By: >>34383265

>>34383156

>Says something stupid
>Gets corrected
>Accuses correct person of (Insert new buzzwords here)

Hello underage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:41:59 No.34383242 Report

Quoted By: >>34383268

>>34383199
You get angry at the smallest things uh buddy? Attacking everyone who thinks differently kek cool that you know your pokemon but count to 10 first

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:45:30 No.34383265 Report

Quoted By: >>34383273

>>34383199
No I was the one who replied not whoever posted initially

>>34383205
>implying calling someone thick after receiving a non inflammatory response isn't autistic
>implying underage isn't also a buzzword
So that's what being retarded is like

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:45:53 No.34383268 Report

Quoted By: >>34383373

>>34383242
Top kek. You could have just admitted you were wrong kid, no need to sperg out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:47:15 No.34383273 Report

Quoted By: >>34383373

>>34383265
>Says something stupid because he didn't read the conversation he butted in on
>That was a bit thick but at least you know now
>D-DON'T CALL ME THICK REEEEEEEE
LAFFIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:48:34 No.34383284 Report

Quoted By: >>34383300

>>34382265
>and shitmons benefit
They don't at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:50:34 No.34383300 Report

Quoted By: >>34383322

>>34383284
I literally gave examples of mons that did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 04:53:57 No.34383322 Report

Quoted By: >>34385142

>>34383300
Xurkitree's a shitmon?
eevee needed a unique z-move that gives it a +2 omniboost, and its only used to pass it on to actually good pokemon
Porygon and Kommo-o are the only pokemon to benefit directly from z-moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 05:03:02 No.34383373 Report

Quoted By:

>>34383273
Well I mean it wasn't necessary if the previous reply wasn't inflammatory. Are you autistic too?

>>34383268
That's not me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 05:36:50 No.34383603 Report

Quoted By:

Can't believe people are finding Totems battle difficult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 12:12:41 No.34385107 Report

Quoted By: >>34386610

>>34381372
Wow a shitty cash grab turned out to be shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 12:16:08 No.34385131 Report

Quoted By:

talk to ugly people losers that short and got stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 12:19:20 No.34385142 Report

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>>34383322
Any sure and ugly and that stupid, ugly little bitch face say is attractive, but his ugly little bitch and he's like a fucking ugly loser, he's a bitch tell on people smell like shit and fucking get angry and he is a little bitch that smells like puke sings attractive is just an ugly little bitch, but I don't know how you got that confidence. He looks like a ugly little midget, but how can you say you're going attractive if you're fucking sure shit and you're the one that made the fucking, ugly ass fucking babies, I don't know I can. He doesnt even fucking feel. I feel bad that they outnumber everybody and the shore shouldn't try to get people in trouble because they drive better than the ugly way and track killed them only way because I try to be better than people ugly way chartered people and they try to lie to people and a sure DiNatale and they're all fucking ugly and trade better than people but still talk to ugly popular people and things like that I guess none of them really likes them so they smell like poop and lie to people known to likes fucking worthless and short and worthless them and the

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 12:19:57 No.34385145 Report

Quoted By:

gen 7 was saved by USUM imo, SM were utter horseshit in comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 12:25:26 No.34385170 Report

Quoted By:

"SOO-OOOOUND" reminded me of that prozd video.

"SWOOOOOOORD!"

"Can we use pistols instead?"

*tests gun*

"GUN! GUN!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 12:28:29 No.34385177 Report

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I liked Z-Moves as a concept but hate what they represent.

Game Freak realized they didn't have the budget or fucks to give to make decent Mega Forms out of all the badly-designed shitmons in their game, not even if they reduced the number of megas to make by only making megas for fully evolved pokemon with a BST below 500 from then on.

They decided to give every trainer a "Trump Card" move that EVERY POKEMON can use, EVEN THE OP ONES. Yeah, great game design. Any Pokemon I fight could either have a nuke, a statboost, or a fullheal that also boosts stats. Lovely.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 12:29:39 No.34385184 Report

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>Tfw when USUM is unironically my favorite 3rd version Pokemon tied with Platinum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:18:25 No.34386543 Report

Quoted By: >>34386610

>>34381372
>Pokebarneyfag getting so triggered over her iminent firing she throws a baby shit fit over best gen

I'm so glad usum was a huge sucess, this way you'll be fired from shilling to attack games next year instead of the year following the switch gen ALSO being a hit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:22:38 No.34386574 Report

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>yfw when z-moves >>>> megas in every possible way

>yfw pokebarneyfag would be screaming about hating megas if those were the most recent ones while defending z-moves if those were from a gen she's not paid to market against anymore
>yfw she legit samefagged a whole thread raging about newer, successful games and wanting every pokefag to die because she though that will help her shilling
>yfw she literally begs you and sucks your dick for not buying pokeman at this point

kek, she desperate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:24:49 No.34386588 Report

Quoted By:

>>34381641

All the things you posted in your OP were wrong and actually good things, tho. No wonder every single one loved gen 7 so much that it became so huge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:28:07 No.34386610 Report

Quoted By:

>>34386543

At least people notice OP/pokebarneyfag's daily cover threads now, only took 3 whole years of her doing it DAILY

>>34381372
>>34381425
>>34381545
>>34381641
>>34385107

>WAAH fuck you for buying this game! Now I'll be fired!! WAA

Why don't you become a camwhore instead of being paid to attack kiddie games, pokebarneyfag? It's still a lazy job either way, just post your tits and pussy.

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