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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:05:01 No.34386454 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34386474 >>34386484 >>34386500 >>34386516 >>34386536

this was supposed to be one of the hpest moments in the franchise

how could they fuck up that so badly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:08:21 No.34386474 Report

Quoted By: >>34386493 >>34388836

>>34386454
Guzma does nothing but effectively take out two grunts you could've handled yourself.

Maxie/Archie are from universes without the red/blue orbs for primal reversion.

No real interaction between the bosses that aren't maxie/archie

It all takes place in one location.

No explanation for Giovanni having Mewtwo or Mewtwonite. That honestly disappointed me a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:09:34 No.34386484 Report

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>>34386454
They didn't.
It was a good postgame episode, pretty good. Like USUM.
Not like that Delta garbaj o emerald postgame garbaj.

Not a bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:10:52 No.34386490 Report

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Dennis and Colress are likely the only good things to come out of this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:11:23 No.34386493 Report

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>>34386474
>No explanation for Giovanni having Mewtwo or Mewtwonite. That honestly disappointed me a bit.

He went in the cave and chucked a master ball at it. Mewtwonite Y's can be bought at the tree so mega stones can be made en mass at this point in time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:12:05 No.34386500 Report

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>>34386454
No meaningful interaction. You fight each boss in their own room where they give two lines about why they're there, you battle them and that's it.

At least Ghetsis and Archie/Maxie had some additional flavor to them, but it was overall lacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:14:16 No.34386516 Report

Quoted By: >>34386520 >>34386523

>>34386454
Because Giovanni is just generically evil. Ghetsis and Colress stole the show. I don't know why they keep trying to push Giovanni as this ultimate villain.

MSG !l57ywNsXK.

MSG !l57ywNsXK. Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:14:41 No.34386517 Report

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>>34386484
This. If you didn't COMPLETELY explored the castle (I assume most of you niggers didn't) your opinion doesn't count. Puzzles were pretty good.

The problem was that Grunt uses only 1-2 Pokémon, and they could give 6 Pokémon to bosses. But this can be fixed using an Hack Rom (Supernova Sun/Penumbra Moon will probably address this)

/vp/ bitch too much about USUM. They are disappointing games but good games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:15:11 No.34386520 Report

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>>34386516
Gen 1 pandering, he shouldn't be the "leader" of anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:15:28 No.34386523 Report

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>>34386516

Because gen 1 + the anime. Dennis is my favourite Villian but I knew they would make Giovanni the Big Boss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:17:24 No.34386536 Report

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>>34386454

Villain team-ups never work because only one of them can be the central antagonist while the rest are reduced to henchmen.

Sonic Forces at least handwaved it by making Metal Sonic, Shadow, Chaos, and Zavok illusory copies and not the actual characters, since the latter despise Eggman and would never work with him again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:18:24 No.34386542 Report

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>>34386520
I liked Giovanni more when he just vanished out of shame (and some sort of regret perhaps) and never returned. HGSS's plot to get Giovanni back and failing means less when there's an event where Giovanni was just vaguely scheming the whole time and will return anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 17:20:05 No.34386559 Report

Quoted By: >>34387253

How to redeem this shitty postgame:
>The whole Aether Paradise is taken over, adding puzzles to the whole facility
>Each team leader has his own grunts, music included
>6v6
>No Rirri-chan healing you for free, maybe just once for floor
>Team leaders interact with each other, maybe a cutscene where they notice your arrival and go to each floor to stop you
>Battle tree npcs like wally or cynthia help you during that, each time you enter a Team floor you meet them there with their corresponding gen bad guys
>Guzma helps you in a double battle against archie and maxie
>Instead of "le ebin ayy lmao" once you defeat them they can't go back to their worlds, being left behind in Alola, so you can battle them again in the Battle Tree as have them as teammates for multibattle (like ORAS did)
>Giovanni and Red/Blue cutscene
>You get costumes of each team as rewards for completing the postgame (or maybe as rewards in the Battle tree)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 19:06:41 No.34387253 Report

Quoted By: >>34388271 >>34388361 >>34388447

>>34386559
It was so fucking weird that there were NO scenes involving Red/Green and Giovanni. What the fuck, they had the models there, they could have easily done it, it doesn't make any fucking sense why they wouldn't even have some kind of Multi-battle team up/confrontation.

Why did Guzma come to save you/help you, instead of Red? This shit was on TV, so there is no way those two would have missed it. It makes no fucking sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 21:43:02 No.34388271 Report

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>>34387253
there are no tvs in battle tree?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 21:52:44 No.34388361 Report

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>>34387253

I assume so for two reasons

A)Red's mute gimmick would just be weird when interacting with a villian
B)Since Pokemon is a video game, the player has the defeat the baddie. Having Red there would require him to either job hard or stand around and do nothing.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 22:00:50 No.34388447 Report

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>>34387253
Who the fuck wanted Red? Silver should've been there to take his revenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2017 22:49:05 No.34388836 Report

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>>34386474
Are you retarded?
Lysandre legit says Giovanni talked to him.
Lysandre obviously gave it to him.
Quit mashing A, you retard.

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