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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 14:23:50 No.34394297 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34394344 >>34394422 >>34394522 >>34394557 >>34394920 >>34395692

>ability suppressor
>completely nulls the holder's ability as long as it is held

>[x]ator (ex pixillator, aerilator)
>changes holder's normal-type moves to the indicated type

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 14:37:46 No.34394344 Report

Quoted By: >>34394358 >>34394371 >>34394384

>>34394297
>holding ability suppressor w/ klutz
>holding [x]ator w/ Pixilate/Aerialate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 14:42:21 No.34394358 Report

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>>34394344
>holding [x]ator w/ Pixilate/Aerialate

Pretty sure sturdy pokemon can still hold a focus sash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 14:45:25 No.34394371 Report

Quoted By: >>34394384

>>34394344
Klutz with this item will do nothing at all, since the effect of klutz and the effect of disabled klutz are the same.

On the -ate part tho, this actually rises a good question: if pixilate sylveon holds the aerilate iten, what type is its hyper voice?

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 14:49:30 No.34394383 Report

Quoted By: >>34397896

>perforator
>moves deal double damage to protect/detecting pokemons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 14:49:33 No.34394384 Report

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>>34394371
>>34394344
I'd say item overrides ability desu

In the case of sturdy w/ sash, which takes priority?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 14:59:09 No.34394422 Report

Quoted By: >>34394463 >>34394577 >>34394981

>>34394297
>>changes holder's normal-type moves to the indicated type
Completely broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 15:12:07 No.34394463 Report

Quoted By: >>34394548

>>34394422
U wot, it could give a lot of mons some needed coverage. And nobody would turn their nose up at STAB return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 15:28:51 No.34394522 Report

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>>34394297
>Eviomite
>1.3x boost to attack stats of unevolved Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 15:36:57 No.34394548 Report

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>>34394463
Especially since Return is 20 rounds of 102 maximum BP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 15:39:13 No.34394557 Report

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>>34394297
>[x]ator (ex pixillator, aerilator)
>changes holder's normal-type moves to the indicated type

Kyurem-B is finally Ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 15:44:45 No.34394577 Report

Quoted By: >>34395652

>>34394422
Ehh, not really I think. STAB return is offset by the fact that you can't run a Life Orb or Choice item, and without STAB the 102BP is just a nice coverage option (that also weakens your STAB options since, again, no other item). It makes you choose between higher damage and less coverage, or lower damage and good coverage. Fair trade, really.

The only mon I can think of that'd be disproportionately buffed by this item is Noivern, who suddenly has a 140BP STAB move with no drawbacks.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 16:50:51 No.34394847 Report

Quoted By: >>34394855 >>34395583

>special return

>physical HP

W H E N

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 16:53:00 No.34394855 Report

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>>34394847
THIS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 17:07:22 No.34394920 Report

Quoted By: >>34394926 >>34394955

>>34394297
>[x]ator (ex pixillator, aerilator)
>changes holder's normal-type moves to the indicated type
congrats every extreme speed mon is now in ubers

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 17:08:58 No.34394926 Report

Quoted By: >>34394963

>>34394920
Except Linoone

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 17:15:07 No.34394955 Report

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>>34394920
>priority

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 17:17:23 No.34394963 Report

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>>34394926
delet this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 17:19:59 No.34394981 Report

Quoted By: >>34395649

>>34394422
No damage bonus so its balanced by not having an item. Consider, no already good pokemon makes great use of it since already good pokemon already have good moves.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 18:18:58 No.34395292 Report

Quoted By: >>34395596

>>34394963
Linoone a shit

a SHIT

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:06:07 No.34395583 Report

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>>34394847
Seeing as that new necrozma move goes off which ever stat is higher there's no reason why return/HP couldn't work the same

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:08:07 No.34395596 Report

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>>34395292
delet this also thanks

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:17:35 No.34395649 Report

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>>34394981
Bullshit. Certain Pokemon are now completely invalidated. Blacephalon kills Ttar now with Fighting Return. Zygarde BTFOs Landorus with Ice Return. Excadrill can punch through its walls with Fire Return. You see where I'm going? It's basically the Z move but trades some power for the ability for multiple uses and limitless type potential. Any Pokemon could have any move type, so how are you supposed to prepare for them when teambuilding?

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:17:45 No.34395652 Report

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>>34394577
Tapu Koko would push the item to be banned with Return and QA or itself being banned because of the item, Kyurem-B would be dumb af, Noivern would be annoying. If the xator only works of existing -ate abilities then its "OK", but either it or a lot of Pokemon will be banned OU and below.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:23:00 No.34395692 Report

Quoted By: >>34395715 >>34395771

>>34394297
>>ability suppressor
>>completely nulls the holder's ability as long as it is held

GIVE IT TO ME, NOW!

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:25:37 No.34395715 Report

Quoted By: >>34395771

>>34395692
I called it first!
But really, Slaking would probably be ranked higher with it than Regigigas, as they both have the same type and BST, but Slaking has a worse ability and better movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:31:17 No.34395771 Report

Quoted By: >>34395876

>>34395715
>>34395692
Skill swap meowstic

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:44:21 No.34395876 Report

Quoted By: >>34395913 >>34395939

>>34395771
Only *possible* in Doubles, and even then it's not worth running two PU pokemon to put a mediocre ability on one.
You'd be better off running Skill Swap Stakataka or Cofagrigus with Return/Frustration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:48:26 No.34395913 Report

Quoted By: >>34396001

>>34395876
Staka gets skill swap?
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:51:07 No.34395939 Report

Quoted By: >>34396001

>>34395876
Cat has prankster, which is a guaranteed swap

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2017 19:57:33 No.34396001 Report

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>>34395913
Skill Swap AND Role Play, on top of Wide Guard, Stealth Rock, all three Rooms, Ally Switch, ResTalk, Toxic, Sandstorm...
It's a better support mon than people give it credit for.

>>34395939
Stak isn't getting OHKOed on anything short of a Special 4x weakness - so Aura Sphere, Earth Power, or the relevant Hidden Power - and Slaking can only really use Prankster on healing moves, as opposed to Beast Boosting that massive attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 00:11:30 No.34397896 Report

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>>34394383
Sound moves and infiltrator are good enough, I think.

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