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Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:29:00 No.34456962 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34456988 >>34457144 >>34457170 >>34457296 >>34457524 >>34457542 >>34457980 >>34459505 >>34460734 >>34460771 >>34461602

Ok so first it was Mega Evolution
Then it was Z-Moves and Special based Z-Moves

what kind of stupid concept will we see in Gen 8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:32:38 No.34456988 Report

Quoted By: >>34457019

>>34456962
>and Speciaal based Z-moves
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:32:42 No.34456989 Report

Quoted By: >>34456999 >>34460646

Summon pokemon, the based pokemon starts as a blank design (similar to the Digimon baby forms) and by teaching and using different moves in battle its appearence/stats/typing will change

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:33:41 No.34456999 Report

Quoted By: >>34457256

>>34456989
So like Meloetta and Aegislash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:36:19 No.34457016 Report

Quoted By: >>34457029 >>34457043 >>34457046 >>34457083 >>34457307 >>34457631 >>34457879 >>34458277 >>34460832

Z-Moves aren't nearly as embarrassing a concept as Mega Evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:37:08 No.34457019 Report

Quoted By: >>34461614

>>34456988
Signature Z-moves for certain Pokemon.
On topic. I hope there won't be any, and they just bring the focus back to Mega evolutions and/or regional forms. Looking back, perhaps Gen 5 did the right thing by not introducing any major mechanic, because GF can't seem to handle multiple ones across the games in such a short gap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:38:28 No.34457029 Report

Quoted By: >>34460840

>>34457016
except they are, they're unbalanced af, if they had been limited to STAB moves + status moves or something, they'd be a lot better than they currently are

The only problem with mega's is like 6 pokemon that didn't need them got them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:40:08 No.34457036 Report

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Assist / tag-team moves and more combo moves

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Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:40:39 No.34457043 Report

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>>34457016
>doing time wasting corny dance/poses everytime you activate the Z-move
>Not as embarrising as a 3 second transformation mid battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:41:33 No.34457046 Report

Quoted By: >>34457066

>>34457016
Do explain how Sentai Poses are more embarrassing than what most of the core fanbase see as Gamefreak pandering to popular Pokemon only or literal digimon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:43:07 No.34457066 Report

Quoted By: >>34457120

>>34457046
Did you read his post right esl?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:44:46 No.34457083 Report

Quoted By: >>34457177

Fusion evolution and only popular pokemon will get the spotlight, letting everyone else in the dust.

>>34457016
I'll take a magical meth marble induced Sayan form over all those dances any time. Also, even now near the end of Gen 7, many STILL want new Mega evolutions over Z-moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:48:56 No.34457120 Report

Quoted By: >>34457225

>>34457066
>Actively avoiding my question
So there is no reason other than "muh maturity"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:53:00 No.34457144 Report

Quoted By: >>34457159 >>34457190

>>34456962
SUTATU BUUSTAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>"Stat Boosters are a new item in the upcoming Pokemon _____ and Pokemon _____! Letting your Pokemon hold these items while in battle, will maximize the Pokemon specific stat!"

>"I'm confused, how does this exactly work, Morimoto-san?"

Pulls out his Switch.
>"Let me show you. I have a Pikachu here holding the Attack Booster. Once sent into battle, Pikachu will have to attack the opponent 2 times with a Physical Move for the Attack Booster to activate. Once activated, the Attack Booster will maximize Pikachu's Attack Stat."

>"Are there other Stat Boosters? Also, what happens when you switch out Pikachu?"

>"Ah yes, there are 7 Boosters: Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, Speed, Evasion, and Accuracy Boosters! Each one having special requirements in order to activate! For example, to activate the Defense Booster, Pikachu would have to get hit by a physical move 2 times, or to activate the Accuracy Booster, you would have to miss a move twice!"

>"What would happen if you were to switch Pikachu out?"

>"Ah, you would keep the stat boost, but once switched back in, Pikachu would have to skip a turn in order to acclimate to its raised stat."

>"Wow! This all seems quite exciting Morimoto-san!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:55:28 No.34457159 Report

Quoted By: >>34457529

>>34457144
Pika Power- Through an exciting new way of boosting it's power, all of Pikachu's base stats raise by five for every $4.99 spent through the new Pika Power micro transaction. Show your friends how powerful a pokemon trainer you truly are with this power that only the strongest can handle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:57:08 No.34457170 Report

Quoted By: >>34457872 >>34461390 >>34461960 >>34462724

>>34456962
Some kind of "Super Ability" Gimmick or Triple-Typed Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:58:02 No.34457177 Report

Quoted By: >>34457219

>>34457083
Fusions will always be exclusive to gender unknown Pokemon because GF would want to avoid the politically charged issue of what gender the fused Pokemon is.

I suppose they could also have 100% gendered Pokemon fuse with each other, but I don't really see a lot of viable candidates there.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 18:59:56 No.34457190 Report

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>>34457144
Eh, that sounds really cool but I'm not a fan of the restrictions. So would speed boost help pic related?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:05:04 No.34457219 Report

Quoted By: >>34457268

>>34457177
Companies definitely underestimate how crazy SJW when they make things that should have been obvious it would offend the crazies

In this case you're overestimating them, the outrage would be exclusively to the smallest online communities and gain no real media traction

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:05:46 No.34457225 Report

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>>34457120
If you read his post again, he's insinuating that Mega Evolution is more embarrassing than Z-moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:10:41 No.34457256 Report

Quoted By: >>34457280

>>34456999
no it's more similar to megas/battle bond than regular forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:12:24 No.34457268 Report

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>>34457219
Yeah just pull a Lati@s and make it a purple circle or L@‘s triangle with no real agreed meaning for one whole gen and then have Prof. Elm explain it is essentially a no-gender equivalent, like how a Liger/Mule cannot reproduce.

If you want to mitigate the issue leave it untouched for a gen, then come back to it and clarify. Imagine someone getting mad about Jynx/Kadabra/Porygon/Metapod etc. nowadays, so much time would have passed they would look completely childish having a meltdown over some seriously old news

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Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:15:24 No.34457280 Report

Quoted By: >>34457344

>>34457256
Then no one cares. Not about mid-battle changes that take a turn. Learn from Gen 6 GF. Pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:18:30 No.34457296 Report

Quoted By: >>34459055

>>34456962
Giga types. Held item adds a second or third type to a Pokemon that holds it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:20:14 No.34457307 Report

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>>34457016
Completely incorrect. I don't want a magical girl dance/30 second attack animation when I'm playing a game. At least the Mega evolution animation was less than 5 seconds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:24:27 No.34457344 Report

Quoted By: >>34461238

>>34457280
>no one cares
you are delusional if you think gimmicks like megas didn't help increase sales

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:48:18 No.34457524 Report

Quoted By: >>34457654

>>34456962
Mega z-items

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:48:30 No.34457529 Report

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>>34457159
>bringing up microtransaction bullshit
If you people are going to keep throwing money at one of the worst companies in America, it's your own fault for letting them charge you over a hundred fucking dollars for Darth Vader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 19:50:44 No.34457542 Report

Quoted By: >>34457654

>>34456962
Z-Evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 20:04:59 No.34457631 Report

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>>34457016
Maybe as a concept they aren't as embarrassing (being just another RPG "Limit Break" mechanic) but in execution they're much more embarrassing. Try to picture an adult trainer doing those stupid poses seriously. Even Gladion's jaw dropped in disbelief when he saw Nanu doing one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 20:08:23 No.34457654 Report

Quoted By: >>34457945

>>34457524
>>34457542
Z-moves cause pokemon to mega evolve the same way Dragon Ascent causes Rayquaza to evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 20:29:09 No.34457872 Report

Quoted By: >>34461960 >>34462736

>>34457170
My money is on triple type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 20:29:46 No.34457879 Report

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>>34457016
the most retarded poster on /vp/ today

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 20:36:35 No.34457932 Report

Quoted By: >>34458008

Aide mons, lesser pokemon that cannot fight on their own but take the place of a held item. They cannot be knocked off / stolen but they can be knocked out by collateral and area damage. Their effects would be stronger than that of normal items, so only 1 per team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 20:38:41 No.34457945 Report

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>>34457654
or you know, like ultra necro, the prime example

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 20:43:32 No.34457980 Report

Quoted By: >>34458224

>>34456962
selective breeding
two specific parents breed a new species
e.g rhydon fucking krookodile breeds a whole new pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 20:47:13 No.34458008 Report

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>>34457932
so basically like yu gi oh tokens

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Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 21:07:50 No.34458150 Report

Quoted By: >>34458177 >>34458244

There's only one feature not re-implemented from BW, Mega-evolutions are super eviolites, Z-moves are super elemental gems, Now you get the trainer action a super Wonder Launcher.

>needs to charge a bar
>Doesn't waste a turn
>multiple types of effects with 3 levels each, you can only pick one type per battle
>Type 1 recovery-Full restore- Full restore+reset stats
>Type 2 Full Heal- Revive - Max Revive
>Type 3 Stat +1 +2 +3
>10 points to get a level, every turn ads 1 point, getting a SE or switching out to a resistance gets you 2 points and defeating an opponent gets you 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 21:12:27 No.34458177 Report

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>>34458150
Add attack items so trainers can fight and you have a deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 21:17:57 No.34458211 Report

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Yet again, I'm glad none of you fucks are working for gf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 21:19:33 No.34458224 Report

Quoted By: >>34458824

>>34457980
mudile

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 21:19:54 No.34458228 Report

Quoted By: >>34459448

Trainer class abilities. Depending on what class you level up and become (fisherman, lass, firebreather, etc) you get certain abilities in battle to buff your Pokemon with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 21:22:14 No.34458244 Report

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>>34458150
>Mega-evolutions are super eviolites
Holy shit you are so fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 21:28:29 No.34458277 Report

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>>34457016
Thee far worse on top of widening the gap between shitmon and good ones they have a faggy dance you have to see every time you use one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 22:36:13 No.34458742 Report

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Triple typing and Sound-type. no Light type cause Fairies already take the spot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 22:46:24 No.34458824 Report

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>>34458224
Please tell me there is a Screencap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Dec 2017 23:18:59 No.34459055 Report

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>>34457296
I'm ready for all of the dragon type regular charizards on showdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 00:24:20 No.34459448 Report

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>>34458228
I'm down with this since it means more customization. Z-Moves and Megas are one or the other since both require an item.

Or they make an "equipment" slot for things like Scarf, bands, Rocky Helmet, etc, and another for holding items that have to be held like orbs or berries. Or split them into constant and one-time items like berries & white herb vs. most other items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 00:33:11 No.34459505 Report

Quoted By: >>34459516

>>34456962
Fusions are definitely coming at some point.

But for Gen 8, I could see them doing more focus on combos between pokemon. Call it something like Pokenergy (Pokemon + Synergy) or whatever.

Not sure if it would just be "here, have some more Pledge moves" or actually letting us build up friendship points between Pokemon so they can do allied attacks?

I also kind of want Limit Breaks. I know that's retarded as hell, but I always imagined seeing something like a Mamoswine taking damage, hitting its limit, and the retaliating with an Icequake or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 00:34:39 No.34459516 Report

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>>34459505
Limit Breaks are basically Z-Moves anyways. Only VI ~ IX had them tied to damage and actions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 02:58:21 No.34460646 Report

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>>34456989
Megas are Pokemon's answer to the rest of RPGs' summons.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 03:09:57 No.34460734 Report

Quoted By: >>34460987

>>34456962
Fusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 03:15:55 No.34460771 Report

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>>34456962
>what kind of stupid concept will we see in Gen 8?
I think that what we'll see in Gen8 as a gimmick is displayed held items.
>models' meshes are set for at least 2~3 more gens
>textures take all of 5min to update and is slave/intern work
The next logical step is showing the choice scarf on your Garchomp in battle.(Also: ball transferring.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 03:26:19 No.34460832 Report

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>>34457016
you confused the order, let me help you:

"Mega Evolutions aren't nearly as embarrassing a concept as Z-Moves."

you're welcome

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 03:27:49 No.34460840 Report

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>>34457029
THIS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 03:53:06 No.34460987 Report

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>>34460734

I'm surprise this wasn't done earlier, i was hyped for gold/silver in hope to see fusion being a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 04:35:41 No.34461238 Report

Quoted By: >>34462910 >>34463543

>>34457344
if it was a very significant improvement they would have never stopped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 05:06:01 No.34461390 Report

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>>34457170
Maybe an activate item that temporarily gives you an extra type until you switch out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 05:10:31 No.34461404 Report

Quoted By: >>34461597

I'm really hoping they don't do triple types just because dhelmise exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 05:53:43 No.34461587 Report

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Fusion is a no-brainer at this point
plus people seem to want it a lot too and DB Fusions proved even Game Freak is capable of doing the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 05:56:20 No.34461597 Report

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>>34461404
Grass/Ghost/Steel Steelworker Dhelmise would be great

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 05:58:12 No.34461602 Report

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>>34456962
5 move slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 06:01:14 No.34461614 Report

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>>34457019
gen 5's major mechanic was having good games
joking aside, the main mechanic focused on was the pokemon themselves, by completely replacing the cast with only new mons for the main story

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 06:07:25 No.34461634 Report

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tfw regional variants are the thing I liked the most and it was dropped on the same generation it was introduced

surely they'll come back, right?

for gen 8 I see pokemon customization being a thing (like dressing them up), and not only an aestethic change.
Battle wise, I think it has to be something "that can only be done with a strong bond with the trainer", but super saiyan and super moves are already used. To tie it in with the customization, we'll see more things like ash-greninja, it will get it's stats and looks changed based on how both are dressed and how well they match or some shit like that. It's the closest thing to trainer-pokemon fusion I can think of. I do hope that never happens though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 06:08:18 No.34461641 Report

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Honestly my best guess is pokemon fusions. However I don't think any pokemon will be able to fuse, it will probably be specific pokemon, maybe even limited to gen 8 pokemon. Depends on what they are going for really.

Also I would like to see a 5th move slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 06:18:01 No.34461678 Report

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Special item called Battle Diamond or something like that. It's a hold item that can be triggered like a Mega Stone.

When triggered, the game shifts to a 7x7 grid, with both players active Pokemon beginning in the center space to the grid closest to them.
The center line grants the attacker 100% crits while they're in a center line space.
The Pokemon in play can't be switched, and gains "Paces" based upon their current level, as well as a calculation that uses their physical defense, special defense and speed. The number of "paces" ends up between 5 and 7.
So the fastest Pokemon get the highest number of steps and the slowest get the least. Physical defense is greater makes number of steps lower. Special defense is higher doesn't affect paces but does affect range of special attacks.
Attacks all have a range of between 1-3 steps, with 1 being the baseline for physical and 2 being the baseline for special. Fast special attackers can reach enemies a little further than slow/physical attackers.
So pokemon can take a certain number of attacks, depending on their health. 50=2 basically, so a Pokemon with 250 hp can take 5 hits.

I'm sure there's more clarification but I'm drunk. I call it Dimensional Battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 07:17:55 No.34461960 Report

Quoted By: >>34462012

>>34457170
>>34457872
If they'll introduce triple type, which combination would be the most powerful?
Off the top of my head, Electric/Steel/Flying sounds like a really good typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 07:28:14 No.34462012 Report

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>>34461960
Steel/Flying/Dragon is the best iirc, only 2x weak to ice and massive resistances

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:51:37 No.34462724 Report

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>>34457170

>Dragons now have 8x weakness to Ice because 99% of them are typed specifically to be reeealy weak to Ice

>Dragon/Ground/Flying Garchomp & Flygon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:55:23 No.34462728 Report

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Some kind of interaction between trainer and pokemon, making the pokemon take different forms
And fusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:58:01 No.34462736 Report

Quoted By: >>34462887

>>34457872
I hope everyone's ready for Grass/Bug/Ice Sinnoh variant Parasect!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 12:37:39 No.34462887 Report

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>>34462736
with dry skin

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 12:44:49 No.34462910 Report

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>>34461238
They weren't removed in Gen 7, and Gamefreak said themselves they'd rather try new things each gen, which is why Z moves happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 12:53:23 No.34462956 Report

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Z moves aren't as poorly implemented
Besides having to do the dance (but i use mostly ps so....)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 15:34:45 No.34463543 Report

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>>34461238
Don't think you understand what the word "gimmick" means

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